4937 Hopespring Dr Goes into Foreclosure

[marspiter]

I would suspect that since so many people are in this exact situation with their homes that there would be no deficiency judgement and any debt forgiveness would be a non taxable event. JMHO based on what is going on out there.

I know many people that are using this as an exit strategy and just cannot keep up nor do they want to.


In FL do they accept a deed in lieu?

Here's part of the CNN: Money article on deficiency judgments earlier this month:
http://money.cnn.com/2010/02/03/real_estate/foreclosure_deficiency_judgement/

"What can be scary is that the judgments don't have to be obtained immediately. Lenders or collection agencies may wait until debtors have recovered financially before they swoop in. In Florida, the bank can wait up to five years to file. Once the court grants a judgment, the lender has 20 years there to collect, with interest."

Which to me says that unless you have it specifically in your renegotiation's with the bank they are doing it and from this article it's far more prevalent now than it was in the past. So basically if in the next 5 years the A's make some cash off this case the bank could walk in and ask for their share.

 

[JBean]

Here's part of the CNN: Money article on deficiency judgments earlier this month:
http://money.cnn.com/2010/02/03/real_estate/foreclosure_deficiency_judgement/

"What can be scary is that the judgments don't have to be obtained immediately. Lenders or collection agencies may wait until debtors have recovered financially before they swoop in. In Florida, the bank can wait up to five years to file. Once the court grants a judgment, the lender has 20 years there to collect, with interest."

Which to me says that unless you have it specifically in your renegotiation's with the bank they are doing it and from this article it's far more prevalent now than it was in the past. So basically if in the next 5 years the A's make some cash off this case the bank could walk in and ask for their share.

Good info. They are more at risk,imo because it is not a purchase money loan.
This wouldn't happen here in CA because we have the one action rule and most of our foreclosures are non judicial. So even here if you have a recourse loan, they have one shot at it. If they foreclose non judicially they cannot come after you even on a refi. UNLESS they suspect loan fraud and that could be a whole other issue.

 

[TorisMom003]

Haven't the Anthony's lost enough? Come on....they didn't kill anyone!

I still feel REALLY bad for both of them.

No they didn't kill anyone, just tried to cover up for a person that did. If the Anthony's (George and Cindy) had behaved the way that normal grief stricken grandparents do then you would see sympathy for them in not only this episode but all others that they have dealt with. I would love to feel sympathy for them but they make it so very hard to do so. Does it stink that they may lose their home, the only home that Caylee ever knew? Yes it does. Was there things that Cindy and George could have done to prevent it? Yes there was and still are. They have made the decision to stand beside Casey no matter what, to lie at the drop of a hat and to blame anyone and everyone other than the people responsible for all of the things they are going through.......for that they have lost respect and sympathy. Now it looks as if they will lose their home as well.

 

[JBean]

come on guys we are talking foreclosure here. Please.

where this post lands on the thread is random

 

[LolaMoon08]

Haven't the Anthony's lost enough? Come on....they didn't kill anyone!

I still feel REALLY bad for both of them.

They've killed me with their lies for almost two years now. It may not be in the literal sense, but is has to count for something. Doesn't it?

I wish I could feel bad for them. I just can't.

If they would just be honest and say they are just walking away from the house because of all the hoopla with foreclosures... then fine. But, they had to come out and have Brad make a statement about not getting money from a movie or book deal... when we all know they have gotten money for other media appearances.

 

[Lexington]

The A's let this house go into foreclosure. $785 is not a lot of money if there are three people with money coming in each month living there. Cindy was on work related disability and I am sure would apply for SSDI when that ran out, George, I am sure was on some sort of SSDI, and also said that he took work when it was available from a former employer, and Lee had employment. The A's will scam the system and anyone involved with them for whatever they can get. I wonder if Brad is collecting his legal fees? I would think not. I wonder if Dominick was paid for his services? I think not. I wonder if Jose was paid any money for his representation of Casey? I think not. It will be interesting to see where they end up living after they are evicted? My guess would be with Shirley, but if Rick had any say in it, they wouldn't be living there either.

 

[truckengirl]

I had melanoma cancer and went back to work two weeks after a major surgery instead of the six weeks like I was supposed to because I was a single mom and had kids to support. So it would NOT hurt them to try to work and STOP expecting everyone to give them handouts. They have had money but spent it on the luxeries of life that was not necessary such as a cruise, tattoos, tanning salons, etc. I wonder if they have made their car payments or if those are going to be next things to go.

 

[sumbunny]

CA did tell LDB during her State depo that she gave 5 grand to Brad and used the rest on bills and things (but apparently not their house payment)

I agree with what Lola says. I think they haven't paid throughout the months because they don't feel that they should have to. Their sense of entitlement leads me to believe this.

And yes, selling one of your cars when there is no shortage of cars at that household (like one of the detectives said)... is what normal people do. Normal people also try to save as much as they can, only buying necessities. They try to go back to work eventually after a love one has passed. Sure it takes time, but at least try... even part time for crying out loud. It would sure help distract them for the time being.

But nothing the A's have ever done have made sense. Why should it now?

I wouldn't be shocked if they claim the "mortage fairy" forgot to pay the bank for 9 months, and they are still waiting for the mother of the year to be found innocent and ride out of that jail on the back of a sparkly flying unicorn.

 

[RR0004]

Finally a consequence! Divorce is eminent.

I read this post too quickly...thought it said, "Finally a sequel!"

Come to think of it...it is another installment of a very old and tired story.

JMHO

 

[Skully]

The A's let this house go into foreclosure. $785 is not a lot of money if there are three people with money coming in each month living there. Cindy was on work related disability and I am sure would apply for SSDI when that ran out, George, I am sure was on some sort of SSDI, and also said that he took work when it was available from a former employer, and Lee had employment. The A's will scam the system and anyone involved with them for whatever they can get. I wonder if Brad is collecting his legal fees? I would think not. I wonder if Dominick was paid for his services? I think not. I wonder if Jose was paid any money for his representation of Casey? I think not. It will be interesting to see where they end up living after they are evicted? My guess would be with Shirley, but if Rick had any say in it, they wouldn't be living there either.

With all do respect to your post of SSDI, they don't just hand it out. You must first apply in writing and wait for you denied decision. Yes, all applications are denied unless you are blind. You then must get an attorney to file for you. It takes 2 years minimum to get a judge to hear your case. Then you have to meet medical requirements to be eligible for SSDI. I don't know how they were making ends meet if they didn't have workman's comp, unemployment or donations. I can tell you, it wasn't SSDI IMO.

 

[sleutherontheside]

Have we established whether the house is or is not listed for sale???

 

[Pollywog]

So did they think the bank would just ignore the fact they have not made payments in months, or did they think the foreclosure laws do not apply to them? I am sorry - but I do not feel the least bit sorry for them. They could work the same as the rest of us do. We struggle each month to make our mortgage, but we get up each day and go to work in order to do so. What have they been doing with the money they have gotten from the media etc, well except for taking cruises etc? I guess they hope someone will feel sorry for them and pay it for them?

You have to know you have not made a payment, they had to have gotten notices saying they were behind on payments, so they knew. If I am late with mine by one day I get a notice a few days later. I am not buying the fact they did not know.

 

[Muzikman]

*5 PM NEWS FLASH*

According to Fox 35, Brad Conway also has a downtown condo being foreclosed on this month. He would not comment on it.

Must be catching, hmmmm?


According to Kathi B on WFTV, Lee has moved out, she did not know when though.

She also interviewed a neighbor, who was a little PO'd because the Anthony's escapades have made property values drop in the neighborhood. He does not feel sorry for them because of that, and because of them going on a cruise while not making payments.

 

[sleutherontheside]

New name for Muzikman....

"Flash Muzikman"

HaHa

 

[Chiquita71]

I think I know how this goes: "book and movie" deals. They never got any money(yet)from any "book and movie" deals, so that is true. So, it is a "mistruth"(to use the Cindyism) the Anthony's were making profit.

Are they going to address that many have speculated that the Anthonys have made profit from the death of their granddaughter?

I have quoted and bolded myself. It seems my questions have been answered. Read this in WS Today's Current News, thank you AWC.

He also said this should send a clear message to people that the Anthonys were not making money for TV appearances.

Purely for fact sake: have the Anthonys made money for TV appearances? Has that been established as fact? Truth? I think it has...

Are these supposed to be Jedi mind trick tactics? It's not that hard to understand why Casey is the way she is-not taking the blame off of her for Caylee but I can see why she thinks she can lie and get away with it.

:twocents:

 

[debbie0604]

I guess the Anthony's will be facing big choices now. Their daughter Casey is facing the Death Penalty, and now CA & GA also face losing their home too. They also lost their only grandchild. What will they do?

Well, I'm just now reading through the thread and haven't read all posts.... but I think that after losing their home, they'll now have an opportunity to file for full Social Security disability and have taxpayers keep them up (since neither of them seem to be working). Whoopee. :furious: :banghead:

 

[JBean]

*5 PM NEWS FLASH*

According to Fox 35, Brad Conway also has a downtown condo being foreclosed on this month. He would not comment on it.

Must be catching, hmmmm?


According to Kathi B on WFTV, Lee has moved out, she did not know when though.

snipped for relevance
.

It's an epidemic all over the USA and getting worse.

 

[sleutherontheside]

Are these supposed to be Jedi mind trick tactics? It's not that hard to understand why Casey is the way she is-not taking the blame off of her for Caylee but I can see why she thinks she can lie and get away with it.

:twocents:

Respectfully snipped and BBM.

I got a kick out of the Jedi reference considering Lee's fondness for all things Star Wars related.

 

[Muzikman]

So the question i have is:

If the bank finds out about the infamous cruise, tattoos and earrings paid for while NOT making house payments, could that affect how they deal with this particular case?

Could they refuse to deal with the Anthony's, since they have very publicly shown that they don't care about making house payments even when they had the means to do so?

If I were a banker, I would not take a risk on them ever again.

 

[BeanE]

The link is up now:

http://www.clickorlando.com/topstories/22640223/detail.html

From Conway:

Many had speculated that the Anthonys were profiting off book and movie deals, but their attorney said this foreclosure proves that never occurred.

I've been trying, but I can't follow the logic in that. We've seen celebrities, for example, with phenomenal incomes, who blew it all, and didn't pay their bills.

All the foreclosure proves is that they didn't pay their mortage for a significant length of time - not that they couldn't. A foreclosure doesn't prove that they didn't have income. :waitasec: