7.0 Earthquake Hits Haiti Hospital Collapses

  • #141
I hope they decided to start dropping supplies. Even if they can't physically get in, drop food, water, shelter, medicine. I'm going to have faith that all that can be done is being done.

Peace everybody.
 
  • #142
I hope they decided to start dropping supplies. Even if they can't physically get in, drop food, water, shelter, medicine. I'm going to have faith that all that can be done is being done.

Peace everybody.
Kinda tough to air drop anything. There is no support on the ground and dropping pallets of supplies will no doubt result in riots and violence with everyone fighting to get some. Not too many years ago there were horrible, horrible food riots in Haiti. There is complete lawlessness there right now - once we have boots on the ground and soldiers to help make sure the supplies are passed out properly and orderly, I don't think they will air drop much - plus the area is so populated (and devistated) it would be hard to find a place large enough to "drop" pallets safely.
 
  • #143
There isn't just ONE country, leader, organization, etc. leading the way. Everyone wants to help. I even heard on the local newscast tonight that some small planes are even defying air traffic control and "pushing their way" in to land.

It is very hard to understand but this country has nothing. Absolutely nothing. What very little infrastructure they had (which wasn't much) is now gone.

I believe once our military gets there "in might" that things will get organized - I also heard that the US is now controlling all air space and air traffic control.

The port is also a huge problem. The big cranes and lifts used on those big cargo ships are either gone or totally broken. Some parts of the port have broken off with cargo ships and boxes falling into the water. It seems there is going to have to be a lot of work to get the port operational - or at least able to receive these huge ships that are coming. Most of the big ships (USS Comfort) will stay off shore - but the ferries still have to be run back and forth through the port.

Thank you for giving the condition in Haiti a reality check. I was not even thinking of all the devastation at the ports and how it need to be cleared just to receive the help that is coming. wow,,,,,
OMG how frustrating, sad, heart braking. I Hope they have some good organization coming with our military I hope they are starting to organize this so that the rescue operation begins to flow. This is awful.
 
  • #144
Kinda tough to air drop anything. There is no support on the ground and dropping pallets of supplies will no doubt result in riots and violence with everyone fighting to get some. Not too many years ago there were horrible, horrible food riots in Haiti. There is complete lawlessness there right now - once we have boots on the ground and soldiers to help make sure the supplies are passed out properly and orderly, I don't think they will air drop much - plus the area is so populated (and devastated) it would be hard to find a place large enough to "drop" pallets safely.
The army is going in and should take an area where things can be dropped and they can see to it that they are not looted but in an orderly way dispersed. But I am not there, it may not be as easy to do, I just hope it happens fast.
 
  • #145
Ok - some updates per our 10 o'clock news. The UN is pretty much the one running things. But, the US military is in charge and in control of the airport and USAID is running the search and rescue ops. So I guess they are starting to specialize and delegate specific operations. They said that its taking sometimes up to 6 hours to unload these huge cargo planes of supplies. Some of the supplies are being taken out of the airport compound but more and more security patrols are needed to escort the people with the supplies and to keep order in handing those supplies out.

It has been said that the new "money" in Haiti is now water.
 
  • #146
There is a discusion on the face book page and someone posted that they heard people where warned in time and got out. I dont know if this is true because there are alot of people listed on the discussion section from the Hotel Montana. Also someone posted that rescuers are still hearing voices in there calling out for help.
(bolding by smart blonde)

I really do not know how it would be possible for the "people to be warned in time", as there is truly no warning possible with an earthquake.

Unlike a hurricane or tornado, an earthquake hits when it hits- with absolutely no warning, scientifically, available.
 
  • #147
(bolding by smart blonde)

I really do not know how it would be possible for the "people to be warned in time", as there is truly no warning possible with an earthquake.

Unlike a hurricane or tornado, an earthquake hits when it hits- with absolutely no warning, scientifically, available.

Yes, the only thing I can think of is that when an earthquake hits they could have told them to get out because it was safer outside and that the building didnt colapse until some of them can get out.
 
  • #148
I was going to post this earlier but decided not too. I also was going to post Rush Limbaugh's statement from his show urging his viewers to NOT give aid to Haiti but didn't because this thread has been so positive and I didn't want to bring politics into it. I didn't want to give these too idiots any more press either because that is what they want. Don't get me wrong smart blonde, I am not coming down on you at all and I totally understand why you posted it.

The sad and sickening thing is some people listen to this crap and they just blindly believe it.

this is for whoever asked me what rush did/said.
that's it im done with politics here.
 
  • #149
Continued fervent prayers for our neighbors in Haiti, in Jesus' Name, amen!
 
  • #150
:banghead:...obviously, the help is not gettting to the people. according to aid workers. I guess part of the problem is the airport having only one strip but CNN did say help is pouring in BUT IT'S NOT GETTING TO THE PEOPLE!! Time is absolutely of the essence to save people.

I havent' had time to watch much coverage (I have two teenagers :)), but I just watched a story about a teen girl, beautiful, with black glasses still on her face, one leg caught under a what looks like a slab of concrete, otherwise the rest of her is free. They were deciding whether to cut off her leg, and the terror on her face I will not forget soon.

PLEASE GOD help these people. May they perserve even in this absolute disaster!

All IMO and heard on TV :crazy:
 
  • #151
Tensions Mount in Devastated Capital as Nations Step Up Aid Pledges to Haiti

<<SNIP>> Imagine these parents-wow.
&#8220;Get me out!&#8221; came the haunting voice of a teenager, Jhon Verpre Markenley, from a dark crevice of the trade school that collapsed around him and fellow students.

Mr. Verpre&#8217;s father risked his own life to save his son&#8217;s, crouching deep into the hole with a blowtorch to try to wear away the metal that had his son&#8217;s leg pinned down inside. Hours later, the young man was free. His mother danced.

>>Much More at link>>>>
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/15/world/americas/15haiti.html?th&emc=th
 
  • #152
FROM THE NY TIMES:
RONALD JEDNA, who was rescued from the rubble of his apartment building after the earthquake in Haiti.

"A day felt like a year. You&#8217;re buried alive. You can&#8217;t scream. You wonder if anyone will ever come." :( :( :(
 
  • #153
Hotel Villa Creole.
Some of you may notice I keep looking for the hotels and news from hotels, many Tourists are still trapped.

Haitians fill triage center, but little treatment

<<<SNIP>>>
Padberg said 90 percent of the people at the hotel need serious care.

"We can treat cuts, for now, but people are coming in here with much more than scrapes. They're coming in with compound fractures," Padberg said. "What we need is to evacuate the injured. We need to send them someplace, and we need transportation."

>>More at link>>>>

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/14/AR2010011403980.html
 
  • #154
Regarding the aid/supplies; what they were saying last night is during the first 72 hours they were more focused on getting the rescue crews, doctors and medical facilities in to find the missing while they are still alive, treat the wounded so they don't die while waiting for medical care and start to find a place for the bodies to stave off an epidemic and also get heavy machinery on the ground to start clearing the roadways so the envoys can get through. They are saying this morning that Port Au Prince is becoming enveloped in the god awful smell of thousands of bodies which have been lying in the tropical sun for going on three days. So, so sad.

I think the whole world has reacted very fast. It is impressive that within 24 hours rescue crews and relief orgs were already on the ground and within 48 hours tons and tons and tons of supplies are landing. Think about the time it takes to collect, load up and ship all those materials and people. And like Swag said and I think for us it is a little hard to comprehend but Haiti presents a ligistical nightmare because they had no infastructure to begin with and now what little they had is completely destroyed. The envoys are having a hell of a time trying to get where they need to go because the roads are destroyed and Haiti has no heavy machinery to clear them. The port is destroyed and they are having a hard time getting the supplies off the boats. The airport which is accustomed to handling about 20 flights a day is completely jammed packed and planes cannot land because there is no room. The whole thing is a mess but certainly not for a lack of people wanting to help but because the region has just been destroyed. I don't think the images we see on the news are able to portray the extent of the devestation and I think all the people who are there trying to help knew it was really bad but from what I have heard in interviews nothing could have prepared them for what they are seeing.

I think dropping supplies in theory sounds good but I think it reality it would cause complete and utter chaos, riots, people killing eachother to get what they can.

I saw so many images on the news last night that just touched my heart. The videos of just normal Haitian citizens, who have lost everything themselves, digging through rubble with their bare hands for hours trying to save a trapped stranger and refusing to give up until they do. One group who had been trying to save a trapped man had been at it for over 26 hours with no tools and they finally got him out and of course the 11 yr old girl who was trapped was saved because people walking past heard her cries for help. I cannot even think about all the people who are still there, trapped, alive, unable to move who will not be found in time.

In a bit of good news, last night they said that the Red Cross campaign to get donations through texting has been a huge success with over 5 million raised - and that was yesterday. I am sure that number has grown. That is just one organization too so combine that with all the other places people have been giving money too and we are talking about hundreds of million of dollars Americans have given to help the Haitians. I think that is awesome.
 
  • #155
Regarding the aid/supplies; what they were saying last night is during the first 72 hours they were more focused on getting the rescue crews, doctors and medical facilities in to find the missing while they are still alive, treat the wounded so they don't die while waiting for medical care and start to find a place for the bodies to stave off an epidemic and also get heavy machinery on the ground to start clearing the roadways so the envoys can get through. They are saying this morning that Port Au Prince is becoming enveloped in the god awful smell of thousands of bodies which have been lying in the tropical sun for going on three days. So, so sad.

I think the whole world has reacted very fast. It is impressive that within 24 hours rescue crews and relief orgs were already on the ground and within 48 hours tons and tons and tons of supplies are landing. Think about the time it takes to collect, load up and ship all those materials and people. And like Swag said and I think for us it is a little hard to comprehend but Haiti presents a ligistical nightmare because they had no infastructure to begin with and now what little they had is completely destroyed. The envoys are having a hell of a time trying to get where they need to go because the roads are destroyed and Haiti has no heavy machinery to clear them. The port is destroyed and they are having a hard time getting the supplies off the boats. The airport which is accustomed to handling about 20 flights a day is completely jammed packed and planes cannot land because there is no room. The whole thing is a mess but certainly not for a lack of people wanting to help but because the region has just been destroyed. I don't think the images we see on the news are able to portray the extent of the devestation and I think all the people who are there trying to help knew it was really bad but from what I have heard in interviews nothing could have prepared them for what they are seeing.

I think dropping supplies in theory sounds good but I think it reality it would cause complete and utter chaos, riots, people killing eachother to get what they can.

I saw so many images on the news last night that just touched my heart. The videos of just normal Haitian citizens, who have lost everything themselves, digging through rubble with their bare hands for hours trying to save a trapped stranger and refusing to give up until they do. One group who had been trying to save a trapped man had been at it for over 26 hours with no tools and they finally got him out and of course the 11 yr old girl who was trapped was saved because people walking past heard her cries for help. I cannot even think about all the people who are still there, trapped, alive, unable to move who will not be found in time.

In a bit of good news, last night they said that the Red Cross campaign to get donations through texting has been a huge success with over 5 million raised - and that was yesterday. I am sure that number has grown. That is just one organization too so combine that with all the other places people have been giving money too and we are talking about hundreds of million of dollars Americans have given to help the Haitians. I think that is awesome.

Thank you for this report, and they are also saying that getting into Haiti is such a challenge that many planes had to turn around because there is no way to land efficiently. The air port is in ruin there is no one who can guide planes in and out and the runway is demolished. it takes about 6 hours to unload a plane and they do not have enough man power and transportation to move the unloaded cargo somewhere else so they can unload another plane too. So it is happening a bit slower then they can control. I know the Army has finally landed so I hope much will change.
There is a boat on its way with heavy cargo (hopefully machinery) and the seaport is so torn up that they worry about how they will unload that too.

SO YES the world has acted quickly but the challenge is immense.

I also have said that I did work with the Red Cross on 9/11 for many months. I do not trust them at all. If Haiti will see the 5M is highly questionable. I am going to see if I got my unemployment check today it should be there. But I will never go through the Red Cross. I talk about them in this post - personal experience, not something I read.
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  • #156
Confirmed: George Clooney to Host Haiti Telethon

<<SNIP>> Got to love him :beats:

As thousands are feared dead in the aftermath of the massive Haiti earthquake, celebs like Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie, Wyclef John, Lance Armstrong and George Clooney are joining forces to raise funds for the impoverished nation's people.

Clooney plans to host a telethon on MTV next Friday to help raise money for the nation, the Hollywood Reporter has confirmed. The telethon will reportedly air across MTV&#8217;s various networks, including VH1.

>>>More at the link>>>>>>

http://www.hollyscoop.com/george-cl...-host-haiti-telethon_22737.aspx?source=alerts
 
  • #157
Confirmed: George Clooney to Host Haiti Telethon

<<SNIP>> Got to love him :beats:

As thousands are feared dead in the aftermath of the massive Haiti earthquake, celebs like Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie, Wyclef John, Lance Armstrong and George Clooney are joining forces to raise funds for the impoverished nation's people.

Clooney plans to host a telethon on MTV next Friday to help raise money for the nation, the Hollywood Reporter has confirmed. The telethon will reportedly air across MTV’s various networks, including VH1.

>>>More at the link>>>>>>

http://www.hollyscoop.com/george-cl...-host-haiti-telethon_22737.aspx?source=alerts

Text “Yele” to 501501 to donate $5 to Wyclef Jean’s Yéle Foundation

Text “Haiti” to 85944 to donate $5 to Rescue Union Mission and MedCorp International

Text “Haiti” to 25383 to donate $5 to the International Rescue Committee
 
  • #158
Hollywood celebs aiding Haiti quake victims

<<<SNIP>>>
Banks has done her bit to aid the cause and she wants others to follow her.

"My thoughts are w/ (with) all those suffering in Haiti during this major catastrophe. I donated, you should too. Text 'YELE' to 501501 to donate $5," she posted on Twitter.

Jessica Alba has dedicated her 1000th tweet to the cause. "My 1000th tweet is for the people of Haiti. Donate for the earthquake relief for Haiti visit www.yele.org," she posted.


>>>more at link >>>>>>>
http://sify.com/movies/fullstory.php?id=14927544
 
  • #159
Maybe it makes a difference what region you are in but my personal experience with Red Cross is they are fantastic.

Our community and our home were hit by a major tornado and the Red Cross folks were incredible – what a comfort they were to all of us in our neighborhood. We were in what was later declared a Federal Disaster area and I don’t know what we would have done without the Red Cross. I always indicate my United Way donations to our heroes the Red Cross.

Our community and local Red Cross hosted Katrina evacuees and they did such a fine job. Pets of all kinds were also housed. The evacuees were treated like honored guests and many ended up relocating to our community.

The Red Cross also helped a coworker whose apartment was burned down in a fire.

I was seated at a table of Red Cross folks home briefly from their Katrina duty rotation at a luncheon and their expertise, professionalism, extensiveness of training and sacrifice for their duty was extraordinary.
 
  • #160

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