A rush to judgement?

[SleuthMom]

You mean between checking on them?

Nah, that's speculation. We do not know for a fact they checked on the kids at the times they said they did in the first place.

 

[IrishMist]

No, to report Maddie missing she left the twins, again.

Oh, I see what you mean.

 

[IrishMist]

Nah, that's speculation. We do not know for a fact they checked on the kids at the times they said they did in the first place.

True, they may not have checked on the kids at all. Very few facts, indeed!

 

[wtsn5]

JMO The parents and their friends should have been made "arguidos"(sp) from the beginning. Period.

We also don't know if the McCanns did do follow ups on all the other sightings as their "investigate firm" should have done. As they kept the fact they had hired them 3 weeks into Madeleines disappearance I'm sure they did. The question I have with the "PR Firm" is why are the McCanns releasing the hire of them so late in the game. I know Portugals laws prohibit them from doing so but why release this news now? Anyone know?

I am not sure if the McCanns are guilty or not, but I was really hoping that pictured turned out to be her and she was safe - otherwise i just can't even think about what she is going through or went through.

 

[IrishMist]

JMO The parents and their friends should have been made "arguidos"(sp) from the beginning. Period.

We also don't know if the McCanns did do follow ups on all the other sightings as their "investigate firm" should have done. As they kept the fact they had hired them 3 weeks into Madeleines disappearance I'm sure they did. The question I have with the "PR Firm" is why are the McCanns releasing the hire of them so late in the game. I know Portugals laws prohibit them from doing so but why release this news now? Anyone know?

I am not sure if the McCanns are guilty or not, but I was really hoping that pictured turned out to be her and she was safe - otherwise i just can't even think about what she is going through or went through.

While I don't know for sure, I assume they are trying to fight back against the lies, rumors and innuendo that has surrounded this case. I also have to assume that they hired this firm for a reason, and that's so that some of these other sightings are investigated. That's just my opinion, you will certainly hear a differing one here shortly!

 

[AfterMidnight]

While I don't know for sure, I assume they are trying to fight back against the lies, rumors and innuendo that has surrounded this case. I also have to assume that they hired this firm for a reason, and that's so that some of these other sightings are investigated. That's just my opinion, you will certainly hear a differing one here shortly!

Not from me! I agree with every word you said. :blowkiss:

 

[Rino]

While I don't know for sure, I assume they are trying to fight back against the lies, rumors and innuendo that has surrounded this case. I also have to assume that they hired this firm for a reason, and that's so that some of these other sightings are investigated. That's just my opinion, you will certainly hear a differing one here shortly!

Here ya go...:innocent:

Originally Posted by IrishMist
True, they may not have checked on the kids at all. Very few facts, indeed!

 

[SleuthMom]

Well, helloooo guys? They were made official suspects! Jail food is not something I think they are dreaming about to taste anytime soon!

They MUST do whatever it takes to take away all this pressure from their shoulders somehow. Interesting the timing for hiring the firm though.

 

[IrishMist]

Well, helloooo guys? They were made official suspects! Jail food is not something I think they are dreaming about to taste anytime soon!

They MUST do whatever it takes to take away all this pressure from their shoulders somehow. Interesting the timing for hiring the firm though.

Being made suspects does not make them guilty.

 

[IrishMist]

Here ya go...:innocent:

I'm not sure I understand your point, Rino. Taken in context, I was agreeing that there are few facts for us to go on, not that I believe they didn't check on their kids.

 

[colomom]

I hope you all know that this firm (CRG) was reported to have been hired 4 1/2 months ago, right after Maddies dissapearance.

If you read about this group I think you will find that their "investigative" action would be minimal, at best. They are "damage dontrol specialists". They pretty much advise people (their clients) on how to behave in order to minimize damage.

Seems to me that Clarence thought if he presented them as an "investigative" body, that would cover all the "why did they not hire PI's" questions.

For more info:

http://forums.mirror.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=17221&start=15&postdays=0&postorder=asc


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_Risks_Group

and their website

http://www.crg.com/default.aspx?page=2

 

[IrishMist]

I hope you all know that this firm (CRG) was reported to have been hired 4 1/2 months ago, right after Maddies dissapearance.

If you read about this group I think you will find that their "investigative" action would be minimal, at best. They are "damage dontrol specialists". They pretty much advise people (their clients) on how to behave in order to minimize damage.

Seems to me that Clarence thought if he presented them as an "investigative" body, that would cover all the "why did they not hire PI's" questions.

For more info:

http://forums.mirror.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=17221&start=15&postdays=0&postorder=asc


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_Risks_Group

and their website

http://www.crg.com/default.aspx?page=2

They also do other things:

One of the areas the company specialises in is background checks on individuals and criminal organisations.

It is also expected to help the McCanns deal with sifting through the large number of tip-offs they receive.

AND

The London-based organisation, which has more than 600 employees and 18 offices around the world, was set up 30 years ago to help kidnap victims in Latin America.

Its first three recruits came from the SAS and it now claims to have one of the world's largest independent technical forensic laboratories specialising in audio, visual and computer analysis.


Bold emphasis mine.
Link to article.

As an aside, I highly doubt the McCann's could call them investigators and get away with it if they didn't work in that capacity. It's a well known agency.

 

[wtsn5]

I hope you all know that this firm (CRG) was reported to have been hired 4 1/2 months ago, right after Maddies dissapearance.

If you read about this group I think you will find that their "investigative" action would be minimal, at best. They are "damage dontrol specialists". They pretty much advise people (their clients) on how to behave in order to minimize damage.

Seems to me that Clarence thought if he presented them as an "investigative" body, that would cover all the "why did they not hire PI's" questions.

For more info:

http://forums.mirror.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=17221&start=15&postdays=0&postorder=asc


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_Risks_Group

and their website

http://www.crg.com/default.aspx?page=2

What a strange choice to hire them. Did the McCanns or the fund hire them? And for what purpose if it was not to locate Maddie. At the beginning what "damage control" did the parents need taking care of.
This case just keeps getting more and more confusing.

 

[wtsn5]

They also do other things:

One of the areas the company specialises in is background checks on individuals and criminal organisations.

It is also expected to help the McCanns deal with sifting through the large number of tip-offs they receive.

AND

The London-based organisation, which has more than 600 employees and 18 offices around the world, was set up 30 years ago to help kidnap victims in Latin America.

Its first three recruits came from the SAS and it now claims to have one of the world's largest independent technical forensic laboratories specialising in audio, visual and computer analysis.


Bold emphasis mine.
Link to article.

As an aside, I highly doubt the McCann's could call them investigators and get away with it if they didn't work in that capacity. It's a well known agency.

Thanks Irish for clarifying that.

 

[amyandjohn]

Hi, I am new posting here, but have read almost every post about this poor child.

I work for an attorney here in Florida, but she is from the UK and I asked her opinion about leaving children alone, was that something normal for them to do? She told me absolutely not. She was never left alone nor would she ever leave her children alone. I don't know if it just differs with each person, but I mean, she is an attorney, so she can afford a resort such as this one, and she is intelligent, per my opinion, maybe not everyone's and she wouldn't leave her children alone. She actually told me she would not even hire a babysitter service, she would not trust anyone but herself or her husband, unless she hired them herself and used all the time.

Just another perspective.

Thank You.

Or family, sorry, missed that.

 

[Rino]

I'm not sure I understand your point, Rino. Taken in context, I was agreeing that there are few facts for us to go on, not that I believe they didn't check on their kids.

I know


You answered they hired a PR firm to fight back against the lies, rumors and innuendo that has surrounded this case.

But admittedly you know

True, they may not have checked on the kids at all.

I guess I was trying to point out that to believe the McCanns you have to pick and choose what you want to beleive. To doubt the McCanns you simply do not.

 

[Love_Mama]

Hi, I am new posting here, but have read almost every post about this poor child.

I work for an attorney here in Florida, but she is from the UK and I asked her opinion about leaving children alone, was that something normal for them to do? She told me absolutely not. She was never left alone nor would she ever leave her children alone. I don't know if it just differs with each person, but I mean, she is an attorney, so she can afford a resort such as this one, and she is intelligent, per my opinion, maybe not everyone's and she wouldn't leave her children alone. She actually told me she would not even hire a babysitter service, she would not trust anyone but herself or her husband, unless she hired them herself and used all the time.

Just another perspective.

Thank You.

Or family, sorry, missed that.

amyandjohn, Thank you!

I never did think that ALL European's just leave there children alone and guess that's because I think there was a reason the this mommy and daddy did it!

I seriously think that there is absolutly no one here on WS that would leave 3 children alone while they went partying! This is sooooooooo important in this case, I just can't stop thinking about it.

So thank you AGAIN amyandjohn.

xxxxxxxxxxoooo
mama
:blowkiss: :blowkiss:

 

[CaliKid]

I hope you all know that this firm (CRG) was reported to have been hired 4 1/2 months ago, right after Maddies dissapearance.

If you read about this group I think you will find that their "investigative" action would be minimal, at best. They are "damage dontrol specialists". They pretty much advise people (their clients) on how to behave in order to minimize damage.

Seems to me that Clarence thought if he presented them as an "investigative" body, that would cover all the "why did they not hire PI's" questions.

For more info:

http://forums.mirror.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=17221&start=15&postdays=0&postorder=asc


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_Risks_Group

and their website

http://www.crg.com/default.aspx?page=2

Damage control? As in, "we've done something wrong and may get caught so let's deal with it before it happens?" That sounds like the McCanns.

 

[Squishified]

amyandjohn, Thank you!

I never did think that ALL European's just leave there children alone and guess that's because I think there was a reason the this mommy and daddy did it!

I seriously think that there is absolutly no one here on WS that would leave 3 children alone while they went partying! This is sooooooooo important in this case, I just can't stop thinking about it.

So thank you AGAIN amyandjohn.

xxxxxxxxxxoooo
mama
:blowkiss: :blowkiss:

Ditto what Mama said! Welcome amyandjohn! I don't post a whole lot on the Maddie thread but I read all posts.

 

[IrishMist]

I know


You answered they hired a PR firm to fight back against the lies, rumors and innuendo that has surrounded this case.

But admittedly you know

I guess I was trying to point out that to believe the McCanns you have to pick and choose what you want to beleive. To doubt the McCanns you simply do not.

Of course you do.