Aggravated waiting for the aggravation phase #6

[Linda7NJ]

Would you?

Absolutely


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[VictimsSide]

Reading news articles right now and I just read this:



Not that I MIND in the least, but I wonder why they didn't argue "heat of passion" from the beginning.

My guess is because of all the premeditated indicators.

 

[Ricki]

ITA

This will be Jodi's last chance to have the jury's attention so she can continue to spew her venom and lies. She needs to get her point across at any cost until the court order for interviews is removed.

She will not vanish slowly into the night. Once the motion is removed she will be back doing as many interviews as possible. After all, we ALL got it wrong. There will be reporters breaking her door down trying to get an interview. Imagine in your lifetime getting a interview with a monster that can slaughter someone they profess to love and talk about him now like he is worthless and a piece of carp. According to Jodi, he deserved to die and that is more and more evident as her interviews continue.
:stormingmad: :stormingmad:

Give it time.

Hopefully, she will get the DP and we will see her slowly wilt away piece by piece. Her looks and her brazen personality. She needs an audience to survive. With the DP she will be so isolated and will no longer be the "Queen of the Cell Block"

:rockon: :rockon:

I believe we will see the performance of a lifetime coming from CFJA today.

 

[SheltieMom1]

I have a general question: if you were on this jury, would you be able to give Jodi Arias the death penalty?

Without hesitation, and for the most part, not because of the inhumane way in which she slaughtered her prey. It is what she has said about him, attempted to do to his memory, and the evil manner in which she has conducted her defense, including lying about her own family (IMO), that has convinced me she is irredeemable. The murder itself, while heinous, IMO could be adequately punished by LWOP. But she is unworthy of breathing the same air as the Alexander family based on both the murder of their brother, and the attempted assassination of his character, right through trial and PAST the verdict stage.

JMO

 

[rob]

Reading news articles right now and I just read this:



Not that I MIND in the least, but I wonder why they didn't argue "heat of passion" from the beginning.

I think it was because Jodi was (and is) running the show.

 

[rose222]

It's amazing how many people here and elsewhere say 'I'm against the death penalty but in this case I'll make an exception.' JA is really the lowest of the low...

 

[cricket49]

As a person who finds it hard to even hurt an insect I say YES, I'd be able to give her the death penalty and never lose a moment's peace.

Wow, Rose, what a way to put it!

I am the same way. I cannot even kill an insect without a strategic plan to inflict less pain.

DP for Jodi! :rockon:

 

[MeeBee]

Great question. I think I'd go with what the Alexander's wanted. After enduring the hell that they have, I'd defer to them for the final judgement.

I do think that LWOP would be worse then DP for her. Once this story loses its steam in the media Arias will lose her sought after status with reporters and we won't hear from her until appeal/carrying out death penalty. I think making her spend every day of her life locked up in isolation til she's old and gray would be the worst sentence for her (although at the rate they execute people she could get old and gray even if she got the death penalty.. )

I have a question if anyone knows: If she didn't get the death penalty would she still be locked up 23 hrs a day?

I have read that in AZ the treatment of lifers and DP inmates are basically the same. So yes, regarldess of the sentence, she will be locked up 23 hours a day. Don't quote me on that.

I also think that Jodi's fate in regards to the media attention and interest in her will be the same regardless of her sentence. Richard Ramirez has been on DR for like 30 years now and people have pretty much forgotten about him. I google every once in a while to see if they've killed the yet, but that's about it. I'd say there's more fascination with Charles Manson and he's a parole qualified lifer.

I don't think it will matter. Either way, Jodi will be forgotten in due time and until she takes her last miserable breath.

 

[neesaki]

Absolutely, unequivocally YES. That thing has NO redeeming human value whatsoever, she has contributed absolutely NOTHING to society. NOTHING. The ONLY thing this thing has done is cause havoc, wrath, evil, pain and sorrow.

The SOONER this world is rid of her the better.

I agree, FJA is worse than Hannibal Lector, imo. She has no excuse, had a basically normal childhood and upbringing. As a boy, Hannibal witnessed his little sister being murdered and cannibalized. Not saying that becoming a monster is a good thing, but he at least had some 'mitigating factors' , imo.

 

[Nali87]

If I understand this correctly, the Judge will read instructions to the jury before JM gets up.

The Eligibility Phase Instructions are read to the jurors before the State presents its evidence regarding aggravating circumstances.

Ooh! No sympathy.

In deciding whether an aggravating circumstance exists, you are not to be swayed by mere sentiment, conjecture, sympathy, passion, prejudice, public opinion, or public feeling. Race, color, religion, national ancestry, gender or sexual orientation should not influence you.

Juan is allowed to make an opening statement! I wonder if he will!

The State may make an opening statement giving you a preview of the State’s case. Defendant may then make an opening statement outlining the defense’s case or may postpone it until after the State’s case has been presented

Ugh, more cross examination. Oh, more jury questions for Dr. Horn?

The State will present its evidence. After it finishes, Defendant may present evidence. Defendant is not required to produce any evidence, and is not required to testify. If the Defendant does produce evidence, the State may present rebuttal evidence. With each witness there is a direct examination, a cross examination by the opposing side, and finally a redirect examination. Jurors may [then] submit questions in writing, but are not obligated to do so.

This is truly a mini-trial. We'll even get closing arguments.

After the evidence is completed, I will read to you the final instructions. These instructions detail the rules of law that you are required to follow in reaching your decision on the aggravating circumstances alleged.

What is "especially cruel"?

Concerning this aggravating circumstance, all first-degree murders are to some extent heinous, cruel or depraved. However, this aggravating circumstance cannot be found to exist unless the State has proved beyond a reasonable doubt that the murder was “especially” cruel, “especially” heinous, or “especially” depraved. “Especially” means “unusually great or significant.”

The term “cruel” focuses on the victim’s pain and suffering. To find that the murder was committed in an “especially cruel” manner you must find that the victim consciously suffered physical or mental pain, distress or anguish prior to death. The defendant must know or should have known that the victim would suffer.

More here for those interested:
http://www.azbar.org/media/58847/4-capital_case_instructions_revised_2011.pdf

 

[The Farm]

Death Penalty all the way without even a second thought. Done. Poof.

 

[LambChop]

No room for doubt JA killed TA in a vicious attack.
Per JM she killed TA 3 times. If not this admitted murderer then who for the DP. Someone who kills several people.....JA is as deserving of death as any murderer ever.

She could have stopped, called for help, went back after leaving..she has no remorse. DP for JA.

Jodi went from what could have been considered self-defense to making sure he was dead before she left. Deliberate overkill is the term that is appropriate.

 

[VictimsSide]

Originally Posted by Dr. Know?
I took typing way back my freshman year with old Remington typewriters that had blank keys. There was a large pull down like a map in front of the class that we had to stare at to figure out what keys we had our fingers on. Now that's cruel! I caught on pretty good and suggested it to my grandchildren who have been on computers since they were 3. They have a funky type of typing that moves there fingers just right. It's bizarre to watch but they are accurate and fast as heck.

Turn the lights off! Were you anywhere near an Ohio school back then?

Too funny Dr. Know - we had the keys marked, but a big FWF on the chalkboard for "Finger Watchers Fail". I daily removed a screw from the 'antique' typewriter in hopes of being moved by my friend in the class. The typewriter was indestructible!!! They just don't make things with quality anymore. We are such a disposable society, and I see no reason why CMja should not be disposed of.

 

[Ann-Tx]

tweets from Vinnie Politan and Jane Velez-Mitchell via Multi-media Twitter box:

VinniePolitan Up early ...off to @GMA to talk about #JodiArias and today's aggravation phase and potential #verdict... 2 hours ago · reply · retweet · favorite

jvelezmitchell Juror 8 to appear on Dr. Drew On Call, May 15 bit.ly/YUYSAm 5 hours ago · reply · retweet · favorite

 

[neesaki]

Hi Nali87,

I am not a Death Penalty advocate....but in this case I would turn that decision over to the family. If they want her dead than so be it.

They say it will be 12 to 15 years before she is put to death. In that time she will live in complete isolation , unable to interact with anyone. That is how it should be, locked away in a dark closet with only Jodie and her other personalities for company.

Neither am I a DP advocate in most cases. But this case has given me a whole new perspective on it, and if anyone deserves it it is her. I don't think she or her DT ever thought she would be convicted of premeditation, Willmott at least, her expression was one of utter shock and disbelief, imo. I think they thought at least part of their sham of a defense was going to work, but this jury was too smart for that. :rockon:

 

[Ann-Tx]

http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/regio...as-back-in-court-as-jury-ponders-death-option
KNVX - Phoenix, AZ 5/15/13

Jodi Arias sentencing: Arias back in court as jury ponders death option

 

[momof7]

I could vote for DP. Which I find odd, as I am normally not an advocate.

In this case, regardless of anything else JA's total LACK of remorse is the sealing part of deal. When asked if she would do anything differently, she simply states she would go to the police instead of going to Utah. Not 'turn back the clock and not have TA dead by her hands'. She isn't remorseful that his family has to cope with what she has done, just that they can't remember him like they want to now that it has been 'proven' (in her mind) that he is a hypocrite pedophile.

No, she is definitely not able to part of society again in my mind. My only beef is that if she wants to get on TV and let everyone know she wants the DP why we have to even have the court time. Just take it. Go forth and wait your four years and be done with the crap. She lies about everything, including wanting the DP. She just doesn't get the fact that she is a convicted felon murderer as she sells tshirts and paintings. Its like another day in Jodi Park for her.

There is nothing to salvage here. She can't be rehabilitated. IMHO.

That beig said, I wonder if today her attnys will try to make it seem like she IS remorseful and if Juan can have the interview shown to the jurors. I bet unanimous decision on DP if they do. JA doesn't even realize she doesn't come across as the 'victim' but a cold blooded killer and if everyone...from to TA to her attnys'...hadn't made her do it she wouldn't be there.

K

 

[treeseeker]

I'm not sure I support the death penalty in this case. I think it may give JA more "fame", for being a female on death row. Perhaps a long life in obscurity would be more of a punishment for her. IMO, she actually killed Travis four times - she slandered his character too. Her celebrity status needs to be shut down.

 

[BeachGirlFromPA]

tweets from Vinnie Politan and Jane Velez-Mitchell via Multi-media Twitter box:

VinniePolitan Up early ...off to @GMA to talk about #JodiArias and today's aggravation phase and potential #verdict... 2 hours ago · reply · retweet · favorite

jvelezmitchell Juror 8 to appear on Dr. Drew On Call, May 15 bit.ly/YUYSAm 5 hours ago · reply · retweet · favorite

Vinnie P woke me up this morning...well his tweet did, not him, actually :floorlaugh:
My first thought when I reached for the phone and read it was....am I obsessed or what? :floorlaugh:

 

[LaneGirl]

I would not be "qualified" to be on this jury.