Air Conditioner Repair Man and Nancy Grace video and transcription dated 3/16/2009.

[seeking truth]

The Transcript....I think we are going to have another problem just like the bus stop...ugh!
It states he said "my cousin was in the house". I think they totally passed on the doublespeak and didnt bother putting it in.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/16/ng.01.html

OK, that is blatantly WRONG and furthers my thoughts that NG and her show are not interested in truth and that they have a bias; though what it means that they would state the opposite of what Ron said could be either laziness, an agenda of their own, or something else. That sounds ridiculous, I know, but hasn't NG seemed to have a strange symbiotic relationship with Ron?

http://www.learnthat.com/define/view.asp?id=338

"Symbiotic relationship Definition:

A symbiotic relationship is a relationship between two entities which is mutually beneficial for the participants of the relationship. Thus there is a positive-sum gain from cooperation. This is a term commonly used in biology to explain the relationship between two entities that need each other to survive and prosper...."

oops! My post was not about the A/C guy directly, though from what I have gathered here so far, there is confusion as to what was said in this clip about him. I noticed that Ron's comment went completed unheeded by the show and his mother when he, in the midst of the discussion of who came to the house that day, Ron said, "the cousin wasn't there." To ignore it and then transcribe it's opposite just really bothers me.

Just my observations, which could be so wrong. Also, just my OPINIONS

seeker

 

[grandmaj]

You can name first name what you hear Ronald Saying. But if you are referring to a particular person, and that person hasn't been named in the media then use initials. Is that clear?

For example everyone is saying they think Ron is saying Jason.

And someone believes there may be a relative by the name J.S. Does that explain it Aoibhinn?

Of course Jason the FDLE investigator can be named in full his name is all over this case in the papers.

Tell you what when I get home from work I'll put my scanner ears on and give it a listen.

But only cuz I :heart: my peeps!

 

[aoibhinn]

You can name first name what you hear Ronald Saying. But if you are referring to a particular person, and that person hasn't been named in the media then use initials. Is that clear?

For example everyone is saying they think Ron is saying Jason.

And someone believes there may be a relative by the name J.S. Does that explain it Aoibhinn?

Of course Jason the FDLE investigator can be named in full his name is all over this case in the papers.

Tell you what when I get home from work I'll put my scanner ears on and give it a listen.

But only cuz I :heart: my peeps!

Thank you so much. When I posted that query I had only read the post by Kimster, not realising there would be further moderator discussion.

 

[grandmaj]

Debs go ahead and put it here. If it gets too confusing I'll move posts and start a new thread.

 

[elle1919]

Has anyone gone back to find the transcript? Although not always accurate it may help and they do transcribe the vids generally on NG. :biggrin:

Found the transcript : http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/16/ng.01.html

GRACE: Had there been visitors prior to that?

SCHIAVO: She had a cousin visiting from out of town earlier. And so he was in the home at some point, but we`re still trying to figure out exactly how that`s all pieced together, Nancy.

GRACE: To Teresa Neves, Haleigh`s grandmother. Miss Neves, are you aware of anyone else in the home that evening? I don`t mean when they all go to bed, I mean earlier that evening.

NEVES: I heard there was a repairman there. My mother was actually over.

GRACE: I`m sorry, I couldn`t hear you. There was a repairman there. The cousin was there who police have investigated.

NEVES: Yes, ma`am.

GRACE: Who else?

NEVES: My mother came by that night.

GRACE: For what reason?

CUMMINGS: My cousin went in there.

NEVES: She brought some clean clothes over.

GRACE: OK.

NEVES: She had some of the kid`s clothes at her house and she had washed them and brought them over. That was sometime between 7:00 and 8:00 p.m. that night.

GRACE: Miss Neves, what do you say to those viewers that are disturbed about your son marrying a 17-year-old girl? Did her parents consent to the marriage?

NEVES: Yes, ma`am, they did.

looks like they edited all RC's background comments out. Wow, I take that back, they wrote RC said " my cousin went in there"

 

[debs]

You can name first name what you hear Ronald Saying. But if you are referring to a particular person, and that person hasn't been named in the media then use initials. Is that clear?

For example everyone is saying they think Ron is saying Jason.

And someone believes there may be a relative by the name J.S. Does that explain it Aoibhinn?

Of course Jason the FDLE investigator can be named in full his name is all over this case in the papers.

Tell you what when I get home from work I'll put my scanner ears on and give it a listen.

But only cuz I :heart: my peeps!

Well, then based upon what you say here, here is the discussion I just had:

[11:38] debs: when you get back, please clean this tape up and send it to me as best you can. I'm particularly interested in the time between 6 minutes and 8 minutes in, but clearing the whole thing up would be great, thanks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIdhmJ_uxtg&feature=player_embedded#at=445
[13:09] Steve: back here
[13:13] debs: ok
[13:14] Steve: converting youtube to mp3
[13:14] debs: k
[13:16] Steve: do you want the cleaned up version to download back
[13:16] debs: i don't know what that means. i just want to hear it clearly
[13:16] debs: there's a lot of garbled noise
[13:16] Steve: do you want me to email you the mp3 cleaned up to listen to?
[13:16] debs: yes
[13:22] Steve: cleaning
[13:23] debs: k
[13:24] debs: listen starting at about 7:15 into the tape, particularly to what Ron cummings says
[13:25] debs: listen through to about 7:25
[13:25] debs: his mother answers a question about who was there
[13:25] Steve: ok
[13:25] debs: ron says something in the background
[13:25] debs: i need to knwo what he says
[13:26] Steve: do you want me to email just that segment?
[13:26] debs: no, email the whole thing. i'm asking for your opinion on what you hear there.
[13:26] Steve: ok
[13:32] Steve: audio taped from the tv is hard to work with
[13:32] debs: yes
[13:32] debs: it's what we have tho
[13:34] Steve: she says "my mother" while it sounds like Ron says "Lisa"
[13:34] debs: really!
[13:34] Steve: who's Lisa?
[13:34] debs: listen again please
[13:36] Steve: when Nancy says "for what reason" I'm trying to decipher what ron says there...there are two utterances
[13:36] debs: specifically right at 7:22
[13:37] Steve: yes...
[13:37] Steve: the first thing sounds like "my cousin"
[13:38] Steve: the second thing he says is really slurred
[13:38] debs: what do you hear after "my cousin"
[13:39] Steve: it sound phonetically like "cousin wun ney"
[13:40] debs: haa
[13:40] debs: ok
[13:40] debs: thanks
[13:40] Steve: it could be cousin wasn't there or cousin was there
[13:40] debs: you've confirmed some people's impression that is what he said.
[13:40] debs: i thought it was something different, but now we need to figure out where you're hearing "Lisa"
[13:41] Steve: right after 7:00 "I am, there was a repair man there, um"
[13:42] Steve: she says "my mother" and "Lisa" said at the same time at 7:06
[13:43] debs: who says lisa? Teresa?
[13:43] Steve: Ron
[13:43] debs: oh my
[13:43] debs: i'm not sure i heard that, so i'll wait til you send the tape back
[13:46] Steve: who's lisa?
[13:48] debs: that's the million dollar question, since this was recorded right after ron and misty got married and about 3 weeks after we learned that his grandmother had gone to the house. What we never learned until AUGUST, was that Teresa's brother's wife, Elisa, went with Granny
[13:48] debs: and no one, EVER, spoke of aunt Lisa being there.
[13:49] debs: but what you're saying is that where everyone else is hearing Ron say "Jason" he's really saying "Lisa"
[13:49] debs: VERY telling
[13:50] Steve: that's what I hear.
[13:51] debs: very curious, all around

 

[Zoe Bogart]

The Transcript....I think we are going to have another problem just like the bus stop...ugh!
It states he said "my cousin was in the house". I think they totally passed on the doublespeak and didnt bother putting it in.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/16/ng.01.html

What???? That's definitely not what we heard. :croc:

 

[elle1919]

Debs Misty said Lisa (RC's Aunt) was with GGS when she came to drop the clothes off around 7pm during her hypnosis seesion. It is in the hypnosis transcription, so that makes sense that RC would say Lisa. Misty said Lisa was with GGS, but she didn't know her last name.

Thank you for taking the time to ask someone to clean that up and try and decipher that for us. Would your friend consider becoming a member here and doing that for us often??...lol?

 

[grandmaj]

Let's please remember our NG rules guys. Rants about NG in the Parking Lot. If you disagree with the content of the transcription then you can state what you disagree with. 10-4?

 

[debs]

Debs Misty said Lisa (RC's Aunt) was with GGS when she came to drop the clothes off around 7pm during her hypnosis seesion. It is in the hypnosis transcription, so that makes sense that RC would say Lisa. Misty said Lisa was with GGS, but she didn't know her last name.

Thank you for taking the time to ask someone to clean that up and try and decipher that for us. Would your friend consider becoming a member here and doing that for us often??...lol?

Elle, I'm aware that Misty mentioned Lisa's name specifically in AUGUST. But until then, we had no clue who "we" was when mentioned by GGM. This seems to be the first time we are ever given a clue as to who was with her when she came to the MH. But what's more curious to me is that Teresa, in her narrative, answering a direct question, does NOT include Lisa's name in the answer to "who was there?" question.

Amazing.

And as much as he doesn't mind dabbling, he would be lost completely in this sort of environment. Let's just say his logic is more ..........er..........ethereal, and leave it at that

But he loves to work with sound (he's a DJ/station programmer) so it's not like that is out of his realm of capabilities.

 

[maureen718]

Well, then based upon what you say here, here is the discussion I just had:

[11:38] debs: when you get back, please clean this tape up and send it to me as best you can. I'm particularly interested in the time between 6 minutes and 8 minutes in, but clearing the whole thing up would be great, thanks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIdhmJ_uxtg&feature=player_embedded#at=445
[13:09] Steve: back here
[13:13] debs: ok
[13:14] Steve: converting youtube to mp3
[13:14] debs: k
[13:16] Steve: do you want the cleaned up version to download back
[13:16] debs: i don't know what that means. i just want to hear it clearly
[13:16] debs: there's a lot of garbled noise
[13:16] Steve: do you want me to email you the mp3 cleaned up to listen to?
[13:16] debs: yes
[13:22] Steve: cleaning
[13:23] debs: k
[13:24] debs: listen starting at about 7:15 into the tape, particularly to what Ron cummings says
[13:25] debs: listen through to about 7:25
[13:25] debs: his mother answers a question about who was there
[13:25] Steve: ok
[13:25] debs: ron says something in the background
[13:25] debs: i need to knwo what he says
[13:26] Steve: do you want me to email just that segment?
[13:26] debs: no, email the whole thing. i'm asking for your opinion on what you hear there.
[13:26] Steve: ok
[13:32] Steve: audio taped from the tv is hard to work with
[13:32] debs: yes
[13:32] debs: it's what we have tho
[13:34] Steve: she says "my mother" while it sounds like Ron says "Lisa"
[13:34] debs: really!
[13:34] Steve: who's Lisa?
[13:34] debs: listen again please
[13:36] Steve: when Nancy says "for what reason" I'm trying to decipher what ron says there...there are two utterances
[13:36] debs: specifically right at 7:22
[13:37] Steve: yes...
[13:37] Steve: the first thing sounds like "my cousin"
[13:38] Steve: the second thing he says is really slurred
[13:38] debs: what do you hear after "my cousin"
[13:39] Steve: it sound phonetically like "cousin wun ney"
[13:40] debs: haa
[13:40] debs: ok
[13:40] debs: thanks
[13:40] Steve: it could be cousin wasn't there or cousin was there
[13:40] debs: you've confirmed some people's impression that is what he said.
[13:40] debs: i thought it was something different, but now we need to figure out where you're hearing "Lisa"
[13:41] Steve: right after 7:00 "I am, there was a repair man there, um"
[13:42] Steve: she says "my mother" and "Lisa" said at the same time at 7:06
[13:43] debs: who says lisa? Teresa?
[13:43] Steve: Ron
[13:43] debs: oh my
[13:43] debs: i'm not sure i heard that, so i'll wait til you send the tape back
[13:46] Steve: who's lisa?
[13:48] debs: that's the million dollar question, since this was recorded right after ron and misty got married and about 3 weeks after we learned that his grandmother had gone to the house. What we never learned until AUGUST, was that Teresa's brother's wife, Elisa, went with Granny
[13:48] debs: and no one, EVER, spoke of aunt Lisa being there.
[13:49] debs: but what you're saying is that where everyone else is hearing Ron say "Jason" he's really saying "Lisa"
[13:49] debs: VERY telling
[13:50] Steve: that's what I hear.
[13:51] debs: very curious, all around

misty talks about ron's Aunt Lisa being with GGS, in her hypnosis interview

 

[elle1919]

Elle, I'm aware that Misty mentioned Lisa's name specifically in AUGUST. But until then, we had no clue who "we" was when mentioned by GGM. This seems to be the first time we are ever given a clue as to who was with her when she came to the MH. But what's more curious to me is that Teresa, in her narrative, answering a direct question, does NOT include Lisa's name in the answer to "who was there?" question.

Amazing.

And as much as he doesn't mind dabbling, he would be lost completely in this sort of environment. Let's just say his logic is more ..........er..........ethereal, and leave it at that

But he loves to work with sound (he's a DJ/station programmer) so it's not like that is out of his realm of capabilities.

Bold by me...yes it is amazing, why can't these peeps all tell the same story? The truth shouldn't be so darn confusing.

 

[debs]

misty talks about ron's Aunt Lisa being with GGS, in her hypnosis interview

..yes. FIVE months after this interview was given, where she was NOT mentioned in response to a direct question of who was there. Some people hear Ron say Jason. Steve heard Ron say Lisa. What I DIDN'T hear, and what I'm pointing out, is that Teresa does not talk about Lisa being there.

 

[Whisperer]

The transcript states that rc said, cousin was in there

What he really says is, cousin wasn't there.

See, I knew the transcript would cause a problem....here we go again.

 

[Whisperer]

Debs, I think your friend heard it wrong. I'm sorry but rc inserting lisa at that point makes no sense whatsoever. ron speaks so poorly that he is a nightmare to listen to. I think the s's in the word jason were emphazied and he doesn't finish his endings. There is no way he said lisa at that point. In fact at the beginning of this thread it was brought up that Jason was talked about with rn and tn on video and that was almost the entire point of this thread.

So if that person heard Jason than that gives credibility that another heard it too. But now, correct me if I am wrong, the person is saying that this particular tape is not the one she was talking about. Do we have yet another video/audio where ron and tc mention Jason?

 

[Zoe Bogart]

I listened again, and it could be "Lisa", or even "AC" or "Jason". That part's just not clear for me. However, he does say "the cousin" and then "da cousin wud n't there". It's a bit slurred with his southern accent, so maybe NG's transcribers didn't pick up the accent properly. He slurs both "the" and "wasn't".

Debs, thank your DJ guy for us. Very helpful.

So if "Aunt Lisa" was there, I guess the laundry and GGS were, too. :waitasec: Although, I tend to go with "AC", just because.

 

[debs]

Debs, I think your friend heard it wrong. I'm sorry but rc inserting lisa at that point makes no sense whatsoever. ron speaks so poorly that he is a nightmare to listen to. I think the s's in the word jason were emphazied and he doesn't finish his endings. There is no way he said lisa at that point. In fact at the beginning of this thread it was brought up that Jason was talked about with rn on video...and then things got all muddled. So if that person heard it and wanted to talk about it then that is what was heard. NOW, I think that person is saying now that isn't that tape she meant...so...

Oh, I'm more than happy to tell Steve he was wrong about whether he heard Lisa or Jason or the boogey man. I'm trying to say that (INDEPENDENT OF WHAT EVERYONE MAY OR MAY NOT BE HEARING) is Teresa Neves, in an answer to a direct question "who was there?" never HERSELF mentions that Aunt Lisa was there with Granny Sykes, and to me that is a huge omission.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Sorry. Meant to post on the "Hypnosis Transcription" thread.

 

[Whisperer]

I don't want this to go off track and get muddled again. It must stay clear It is too important to get lost in bantar. If it goes off, there is no hope because everytime we get onto something significant, it gets twisted and turned.

I am going with the majority of people that thinks and are pretty sure he said jason. jason is a cousin and it was said at one time that a relative worked in air condtioning at one time.

 

[elle1919]

Debs, I think your friend heard it wrong. I'm sorry but rc inserting lisa at that point makes no sense whatsoever. ron speaks so poorly that he is a nightmare to listen to. I think the s's in the word jason were emphazied and he doesn't finish his endings. There is no way he said lisa at that point. In fact at the beginning of this thread it was brought up that Jason was talked about with rn on video...and then things got all muddled. So if that person heard it and wanted to talk about it then that is what was heard. NOW, I think that person is saying now that isn't that tape she meant...so...

Whisperer, we agree on that point. I don't think RC said Lisa either. I think he said AC Man, or maybe even J, I don't know. My ears could very well be deceiving me. I understand that Jason J from FDLE was not introduced into the case until summer so if there was a J mentioned it would be suspect. I know there was some speculation that the AC man might have been a relative, so perhaps many are thinking that this J might have been the AC Man. I can't be for sure, but that is just me. I am still trying to understand why RC wanted to divert everyone's attention away from "the cousin" that we know was there. He looked to get really peeved when someone accused him of being at the trailer that night. :waitasec: