AK - Samantha Koenig, 18, Anchorage, 1 Feb 2012 - #2

[TxLady2]

Everything you wrote is true, however it's less about the weight than it is about pictures they're posting. She clearly looks significantly different with a 20 pound weight fluctuation, which is, I think, the point of what we're saying....tell us who we're looking for! People's faces change with more or less weight, you can't just go by face alone. If I was actively searching for Sam on a street (unlikely since I live in California, but still!) and all I had were the perfectly posed, taken at an angle above the head pictures that they keep posting, I would walk RIGHT BY the girl in the Santa hat without even glancing her way. There was a picture of her and her father where she was also heavier and looked VERY different than the pictures they have plastered on her posters.

Sam is beautiful in all of pictures, but give us the ones that best show how she looked the day she went missing. It's not a snarky commentary on a young woman's weight (trust me, I would/could *never* do that), it's about needing an accurate way to identify her should someone (who does not know her in person) see her on the street.

Thank you and I agree. But there may not be any pictures of her in the few days before she went missing. I would also like to know why her weight would fluctuate 20 lbs. or so in such a short time. Do we know that for a fact or is it speculation? I'm not good at guessing weight but I can't see such a big difference in weight in those 2 pics... 10 lbs, maybe, but certainly not 20.

Sadly, there is not always an 'accurate' way to identify a missing person once they go missing. Going by pictures, what one person sees, the next person will disagree with. This has happened in a lot of missing cases... someone is spotted at Wal Mart, someone snaps a picture and half swear up and down it's the same person, and the other half swears it's not even close.

Statistically, it's all going to hinge on a lucky break, IF she's still alive. And if someone is holding her captive somewhere, she's not going to be running around in public, unless someone took steps to disguise her or drastically change her appearance. Someone recognized Elizabeth Smart and she was wearing a loose garment with a hood... nothing showing but her face, and almost a year older, AND denied who she was.

 

[bdawk20]

I think in a lot of kidnapping cases the parent(s) are coached by authorities as to what to say and write or more importantly what not to say or write publicly. I don't think that is the case here though.

Some of the things James has written on fb and said publicly to the MSM I think would be frowned upon by investigators handling a kidnapping case. It is very obvious to me his statements are not prepared for him by anyone that specializes in kidnappings and he is not receiving any coaching from anyone on what to say or not to say to the MSM.

JMO

I find it a little odd that LE hasn't told him to just be quiet. He has threatened the kidnapper, and I would think LE would advise heavily against that. Maybe there's a reason they just let him keep on typing....?

 

[isamom]

The search question in my opinion is being made out to sound like it is so easy to go search. There were many searches in the beginning. At this point I think it is hard to plan a search when there is no direction to go?
Should they just start at one end of Anchorage going door to door till they make it through every neighborhood?
The recent ADN article sounded promising. I do believe they know alot more then we do and they have a reason for not conducting any new searches at this time. I think there is so much going on with this case and so much we do not know about and the reasons why.. I still think when she is found and the story comes out we will understand better why they handled the case the way they did.
I think they believe Sams alive and want to keep it that way, so whatever they know they are trying to do things in a way that she can get home safe.

I agree with many of you on things, and do not understand it, at first it bothered me and now I realize they have their reasons so I just pray that how they are handling it is working and we get her home safe. Thanks Everyone for the input.

 

[bdawk20]

http://www.adn.com/2012/02/29/2344750/search-for-koenig-continues-a.html#disqus_thread

This is the same link Joe Friday posted, but I am re-posting more for the comments people are posting underneath. Interesting it seems more and more people are becoming suspicious that something just ain't quite right....

 

[z560]

My thoughts on this case:

- Sam got involved with a bad group of people and they are involved in her abduction. I don't know if it's drugs, trafficking, or what, but I do think that she knew her abductor and that this wasn't completely random.

- I'm worried her father is taking advantage of the situation vis-a-vis the reward money. I don't think he was involved in her abduction/disappearance but he has been acting very shady with regard to that money. He will never say exactly how much there is. He keeps raising money even though he himself said that if the reward was going to do any good someone would have come forward already. He tells people to mind their own business. Now we hear he is using the money to pay bills. I don't like any of it.

- I hope law enforcement is keeping track of CB. Apparently he is moving to North Carolina? Well I hope they know where to find him. I really think he is at least tangentially involved in this somehow. I suspect he ran with or at least knows the group of people that are responsible.

- I think the strangeness of the case really comes down to this: you have a police department that is determined not to receive help from the public (rightly or wrongly) and that is withholding all information and might even be putting out disinformation; and you have a family that may have its own agenda that isn't entirely focused on finding Samantha--I hate to say it but there it is. So when you put those two things together I think that's why this case seems so bizarre.

 

[z560]

I wouldn't be surprised if we are all really stunned at the outcome of this case. Perhaps LE knows that this whole thing was staged to look like an abduction and they are just waiting and collecting evidence before they make their move.

It might explain the lack of searches.

JMO

I noticed that line about the "apparent abductor" in that ADN article as well. The problem is we don't know if that phraseology is coming from the police or the reporter who wrote the article. If the police are sort of backing off slightly on whether this was definitely an abduction than that would be big news. But it could just be that some reporter took some editorial liberty and thought "apparent abductor" sounded good or something.

But I do agree that the outcome could be quite surprising. I wouldn't be shocked if it turned out that she ran away, or that the whole thing was staged, or that it was some prank that got way out of control.

 

[CincinnatiKate]

I personally dont think CB and his mother are moving. They say they rented a local AK storage unit for a little over a month...and I am inclined its an extended vacation until his father returns from Afghanistan. Are we sure he even went with his mother? He just got that new girlfriend so I think he is going to stay.


Is KTUU a local station?

 

[bdawk20]

Don't know if this was posted previously, but her bf is interviewed on this video:

http://www.ktuu.com/ktuu-samstock-raises-money-for-koenigs-reward-fund-20120225,0,6699637.story

 

[bdawk20]

I personally dont think CB and his mother are moving. They say they rented a local AK storage unit for a little over a month...and I am inclined its an extended vacation until his father returns from Afghanistan. Are we sure he even went with his mother? He just got that new girlfriend so I think he is going to stay.


Is KTUU a local station?

KTUU is local. I don't know if CB is going with her, but she does mention in all the talk about him receiving death threats, which leads you to believe he might be...

 

[CincinnatiKate]

I hope someone watches that local station for the upcoming interview... I find it odd that there has been no posts in 2 days, when usually she posts multiple times a day. Jacksonville NC is small town?

on another note:---By any chance, was Sam's father employed when she went missing? Have his co workers or business been identified as of today?

 

[SurfieTX]

KTUU is local. I don't know if CB is going with her, but she does mention in all the talk about him receiving death threats, which leads you to believe he might be...

Of course he is, IMO. Sam's dad made no bones about what he was about to do.

 

[bdawk20]

I hope someone watches that local station for the upcoming interview... By any chance, was Sam's father employed when she went missing? Have his co workers or business been indetified as of today?

Nope on the knowledge of whether or not he was employed when she went missing. Have never seen/read/heard where he worked if he worked, just that he "can't work now" because of her disappearance. Strrraaange.

 

[bdawk20]

Of course he is, IMO. Sam's dad made no bones about what he was about to do.

Oh yes - I believe he is receiving death threats! I meant that with his mom mentioning the death threats, it led me to believe CB might be leaving for NC with her...

 

[joslmaman]

I can't help but wonder if those complaining about what Mr Koenig is doing with the funds even contributed to them? I can say that when I give money to a cause, I'm giving it and letting go of it when I do.
Although it seems strange, I also feel like there's multiple possibilities for what's actually happening.
Considering the public is being left out of most of the details of the case, it's possible we aren't aware of the details of how these accounts are being handled as well. It's entirely possible that he does have separate accounts and we just don't know that.

For anyone who is already questioning the details of this case, obviously the comments now being made about the use of the funds just continues to make them for more doubtful. IMO

 

[bdawk20]

I can't help but wonder if those complaining about what Mr Koenig is doing with the funds even contributed to them? I can say that when I give money to a cause, I'm giving it and letting go of it when I do.
Although it seems strange, I also feel like there's multiple possibilities for what's actually happening.
Considering the public is being left out of most of the details of the case, it's possible we aren't aware of the details of how these accounts are being handled as well. It's entirely possible that he does have separate accounts and we just don't know that.

For anyone who is already questioning the details of this case, obviously the comments now being made about the use of the funds just continues to make them for more doubtful. IMO

I think what's at issue regardless if those "complaining" having given $ or not, is that the money has been collected for a reward fund...that has been advertised everytime they ask for money. Private donations to Mr. Koenig directly are not in question. A reward fund is exactly that - a fund set up to monetarily reward someone for coming forward and breaking the case which leads to Sam returning home, not as a personal bank account for the family, regardless of if they use it for a heating bill or a big screen tv.

 

[Joe Friday]

What is up with the comment about the detective cars and if the BIG crime scene van is on site? (Posted @ 10:20AM)

http://www.adn.com/2012/02/29/2344750/search-for-koenig-continues-a.html#disqus_thread


I didn't see anything else mentioned about cars and vans in the comments section but I might of missed it. Seems like some negative comments disappear there as fast as they do on fb.

JMO

 

[z560]

What is up with the comment about the detective cars and if the BIG crime scene van is on site? (Posted @ 10:20AM)

http://www.adn.com/2012/02/29/2344750/search-for-koenig-continues-a.html#disqus_thread


I didn't see anything else mentioned about cars and vans in the comments section but I might of missed it. Seems like some negative comments disappear there as fast as they do on fb.

JMO

Somebody posted that there were a bunch of detective cars on the side of the highway near where Samantha was abducted. They theorized that maybe the cops had found something in the woods.

The BIG van referenced is the local police department's primary crime scene van. If it were present on the scene that would tend to indicate a major occurrence.

I take all of those kind of posts with a grain of salt though. Some people just like to get people stirred up so they'll post things like that. Or they see something innocuous and completely unrelated and assume it must have something to do with the case that's currently in the headlines.

 

[Knox]

Somebody posted that there were a bunch of detective cars on the side of the highway near where Samantha was abducted. They theorized that maybe the cops had found something in the woods.

The BIG van referenced is the local police department's primary crime scene van. If it were present on the scene that would tend to indicate a major occurrence.

I take all of those kind of posts with a grain of salt though. Some people just like to get people stirred up so they'll post things like that. Or they see something innocuous and completely unrelated and assume it must have something to do with the case that's currently in the headlines.

http://tunein.com/radio/Anchorage-Police--Fire-Scanner-s129571/

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[sfbaynancydrew]

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Thanks Knox...this could be addicting lol.

Thinking of Samantha and hoping today is the day she comes home. Despite all of the weirdness of her case, there is something special about her that keeps me interested and wanting this to end happily.

 

[Wondergirl]

It's always a bad sign when there is no "progress" in a case, when donations and reward $$$ are being handled by the victims family and friends, they are held publicly accountable, and it almost always ends in a poor way.

Where is Samantha?