Recovered/Located AL - Casey White, cap murder chg, & Vicky Sue White, CO w/sher office, Lauderdale, 29 Apr'22*Reward*

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  • #641
I’m struggling to see the logic for her to forego her retirement plans through falling in love with a lifer inmate, that none of her colleagues saw coming.

Is it possible as an alternative that he has something to blackmail her with, and he jacked up the pressure right up to her last working day by threatening to expose whatever it is? “If you don’t help me, I’ll ruin you anyway” type of thing? Maybe even linked to the first escape plan?

JMO
Yes. It seems like she would have made darn sure the retirement funds were accessible - lump sum or payments (guessing lump sum if that was even possible, so she wouldn't have to worry about them watching a bank account that the funds were being deposited into monthly - she could have had it deposited and then cashed it out). Even so, if the total was about $100k as I'm reading here, that isn't enough to live off of, even in an RV in someone's woods, for very long. The blackmail idea is interesting, for sure.
 
  • #642
I’m struggling to see the logic for her to forego her retirement plans through falling in love with a lifer inmate, that none of her colleagues saw coming.

Is it possible as an alternative that he has something to blackmail her with, and he jacked up the pressure right up to her last working day by threatening to expose whatever it is? “If you don’t help me, I’ll ruin you anyway” type of thing? Maybe even linked to the first escape plan?

JMO

I believe that, unless she’d murdered someone and he knew where the body was buried, she had more to lose from helping him escape.
 
  • #643
I wonder if she had moved out of her home so the new owners could move in. If yes, where was she living? Did she sell all of her possessions as well? Or was she still in her home until closing? Or perhaps she'd already closed on the house.
It’s been stated on previous posts that she lived with her mother for the last 5 weeks.
 
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  • #645
Who would throw away a pension you’ve worked hard for for 25 years? That isn’t ‘doing the right thing’ or ‘tying up loose ends’ IMO. It’s quite irresponsible.

That's why I think that she was hopelessly in love with Casey White.
 
  • #646
Regardless of how or whether she was a willful partner in the escape, if she's still alive, she's in danger now.

The warrant will get LE everywhere looking for her, her best chance now to get out of this mess alive.

JMO
 
  • #647
I believe that, unless she’d murdered someone and he knew where the body was buried, she had more to lose from helping him escape.

I agree, however such pressures could induce actions that are far from rational.
 
  • #648
I see it at more as a break that might’ve happened after her ex, who she’d been helping, died in January.

Though I acknowledge she could’ve even been deep in with CW back when he stayed there in 2020.
Ok, well, when or if authorities do a mental health evaluation when she is arrested and then goes to trial, I doubt they will find her not guilty due to a mental break.
 
  • #649
That's why I think that she was hopelessly in love with Casey White.
She is going to prison. She’ll be wishing she had that money and not thrown it away on a loser.
 
  • #650
Are there any articles with interviews from his family or friends? They might have some insight into where they might have gone. What are his interests? Does he like camping or hunting? What places are important to him? What was he like in school? Did he graduate or learn a trade? Does he have outdoor survival skills? The media is mainly focused on interviewing people who know Vicki.
 
  • #651
She is legally entitled to her pension until she pleads or is found guilty to a felony involving her office. Even then, she is entitled to receive all of her contributions plus interest.

I guess that they can pretend that she didn't retire, but I guess they would still be depositing her paycheck into her accounts, which could be a joint account with her mother. And that would include a ton of OT since she disappeared while on the clock.

I would just as soon file her paperwork and start depositing the part of the pension that she is entitled to than keep her on the clock until she is found. In any case it could be moot if she borrowed a large portion from her pension recently.
I wonder how much (as in percent) she could have borrowed? Because for someone who appears to be "going for broke" and sold her home below market, liquidating a pension despite tax & other penalties seems likely.

JMO
 
  • #652
Are there any articles with interviews from his family or friends? They might have some insight into where they might have gone. What are his interests? Does he like camping or hunting? What places are important to him? What was he like in school? Did he graduate or learn a trade? Does he have outdoor survival skills? The media is mainly focused on interviewing people who know Vicki.
I think the less the public knows about this guy is probably better. If people start talking about oh, yeah he always like to hang out in x town, or liked fishing at y river, or hunting in z county, some members of the public are actually dumb enough to go looking.

LE doesn't want the public actively involved in this beyond "if you see the people in this picture do not approach them and call law enforcement immediately". It's too dangerous.

There's all the time in the world to talk about their life histories AFTER they are securely in custody somewhere. jmo
 
  • #653
I see this as a woman who was emotionally vulnerable and didn’t have a lot left to live for aside from her mother, and who had followed the rules and life hadn’t really worked out. She felt romantic desire and adoration and uniqueness for the first time in a long time, if not the first time ever, and the aspect of forbidden activates more brain chemistry (weren’t we all teenagers once?) and this all gave her something extremely powerful to look forward to. Her ex husband died (she is a widow in my eyes, given their amicable relationship), the house was empty, she had worked enough … I find it completely understandable that she submitted the retirement paperwork. She was a rule follower right up until the moment she wasn’t, but she thought about that moment for years, I bet this investigation reveals. I think this relationship basically gave a lonely vulnerable woman a reason to live.

I’d have a hard time as a juror sending her to jail. She needs mental health treatment, a purpose and more reasons to live.
 
  • #654
I’m struggling to see the logic for her to forego her retirement plans through falling in love with a lifer inmate, that none of her colleagues saw coming.

Is it possible as an alternative that he has something to blackmail her with, and he jacked up the pressure right up to her last working day by threatening to expose whatever it is? “If you don’t help me, I’ll ruin you anyway” type of thing? Maybe even linked to the first escape plan?

JMO
I can see this. But it would have to be something like, for instance, VW was involved somehow in Connie Ridgeway's murder with him. He hasn't named names yet but his trial is coming up and if he said, "Look, biatch. I'm giving you until the end of the day tomorrow to get me out of here or I'm telling them everything." That would do it.

But it would have to be something seriously serious. And provable. And actually worth throwing your life away in comparison. jmo
 
  • #655
I see this as a woman who was emotionally vulnerable and didn’t have a lot left to live for aside from her mother, and who had followed the rules and life hadn’t really worked out. She felt romantic desire and adoration and uniqueness for the first time in a long time, if not the first time ever, and the aspect of forbidden activates more brain chemistry (weren’t we all teenagers once?) and this all gave her something extremely powerful to look forward to. Her ex husband died (she is a widow in my eyes, given their amicable relationship), the house was empty, she had worked enough … I find it completely understandable that she submitted the retirement paperwork. She was a rule follower right up until the moment she wasn’t, but she thought about that moment for years, I bet this investigation reveals. I think this relationship basically gave a lonely vulnerable woman a reason to live.

I’d have a hard time as a juror sending her to jail. She needs mental health treatment, a purpose and more reasons to live.
I'd send her to jail in a New York minute. It's her JOB to protect us from people like him. Not let them loose to hurt or kill more people. If you're that miserable, get therapy. jmo
 
  • #656
I wonder about her own physical health as well as her mental. Maybe her retirement was largely forced due to declining health and doctor's appointments weren't out of the norm lately.

She may have been trying to fill the void left by the recent passing of her ex, she could have been trying to fill the void left by her ex when he became ill back in 2020, maybe she has no intention of living long or may have been given a diagnosis that would lead to an early death. You don't need much money if you're planning to die soon.

Maybe this is just kind of an extreme bucket list deal. Maybe busting CW out was, in a twisted mind, kind of a motherly thing to do like taking care of an ailing ex-spouse who also didn't have an angelic past.
 
  • #657
@CharlestonGal smiling because I’m from New York and we’re a lot less apt to send people to jail than they are in, like, Alabama ;)
 
  • #658
I see this as a woman who was emotionally vulnerable and didn’t have a lot left to live for aside from her mother, and who had followed the rules and life hadn’t really worked out. She felt romantic desire and adoration and uniqueness for the first time in a long time, if not the first time ever, and the aspect of forbidden activates more brain chemistry (weren’t we all teenagers once?) and this all gave her something extremely powerful to look forward to. Her ex husband died (she is a widow in my eyes, given their amicable relationship), the house was empty, she had worked enough … I find it completely understandable that she submitted the retirement paperwork. She was a rule follower right up until the moment she wasn’t, but she thought about that moment for years, I bet this investigation reveals. I think this relationship basically gave a lonely vulnerable woman a reason to live.

I’d have a hard time as a juror sending her to prison for a long time. She needs mental health treatment, a purpose and more reasons to live.
Well bless her heart, she left with a 9 mm handgun (and who knows what other weapons), a desperate murderous criminal she purposely freed & a potentially very large sum of money but she's a victim of her "lonely heart"? The premeditation alone is damning. Never mind the innocent people he might hurt or kill on the run, which she would have culpability for.

I'd have no problem sending her to jail - decisions have been made now. Regardless of the "reasons", she will have to experience the legal consequences.

Who knows better how to game the system than those inside it (which they both took advantage of)? But, bless her heart.

JMHO
 
  • #659
Who would throw away a pension you’ve worked hard for for 25 years? That isn’t ‘doing the right thing’ or ‘tying up loose ends’ IMO. It’s quite irresponsible.
That's exactly what I'm saying!!!! She's done with being the good girl! And you want to talk about responsible???? She's beyond that!
 
  • #660
I’m struggling to see the logic for her to forego her retirement plans through falling in love with a lifer inmate, that none of her colleagues saw coming.

Is it possible as an alternative that he has something to blackmail her with, and he jacked up the pressure right up to her last working day by threatening to expose whatever it is? “If you don’t help me, I’ll ruin you anyway” type of thing? Maybe even linked to the first escape plan?

JMO
This is along the lines of what I was thinking.
 
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