Recovered/Located AL - Casey White, prisoner, & Vicky Sue White, CO w/sher office, Lauderdale, 29 Apr'22 *Reward* #2

[FlamingoLady]

Perhaps but isn’t anyone in the jail keeping track of who is visiting? Are you thinking they didn’t know who she was and maybe only now have realized she’s an unrelated deputy? .

That's where her alias camein.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Wouldn't 2 years be Apr 2020, nearly 6 months before CW showed up at LCDC the first time? Is that just loose reporting? If not, that means VW was visiting him before he confessed to the murder of Connie Ridgeway. Which raises a whole lot of questions. jmo

Zactly.

 

[wary]

Or he could wear clothes that cover them?

Its just a hunch of mine, but I think it’s possible that his tattoos reflect prison-gang affiliations, rather than ‘true beliefs.’ In other words, that he joined up with others for mutual protection, but that the others aren’t people that will risk their own freedom to help him.

 

[CharlestonGal]

THIS ^^^^ is soooo true!

MOO

Reminds me of my military days when I would periodically get stuck on urine drug screen monitoring detail. Yes, you might outrank me by a mile but I am going to stand right here and watch every move you make while you pee in that cup. Yes, I'm going to see your cooter. Yes, it's going to be awkward. Deal with it.

But I was supported in that by my environment. If my superior pitched a fit about it they'd be told the same thing I told them. Shut up and deal with it.

I don't think the booking officer was in the same supportive environment where she could say to VW, "Nope, not happening." The booking officer apparently felt like she had no option but to follow orders, no matter the magnitude of the infraction. And that is an environment directly created by superiors - the director and the sheriff. A subordinate cannot challenge their superior because they know the "system" will not back them up and there will be retribution if they refuse to go along with the rule breaking.

Someone else seriously needs to be in charge of that jail and both the director and the sheriff need to go. They are the ones who made this baby. It didn't spring out of nowhere. IMO

 

[Spartygirl]

The jaw-dropping stupidity of participating in a jailbreak and then running away with a very large and dangerous criminal who has murdered before is mind-boggling, to say the least. She had a great job, money in the bank, and she's known him for only a short time... I don't get it. There is no amount of money or 'love' that would persuade me to do anything that would result in jail time. I agree with everyone who thinks there is not much of a chance that she gets out of this situation alive to explain herself, unfortunately. JMHO

Right !?!?

I just don't understand WTH she was thinking !!!!!????

I mean, she has been a stable, reliable employee for many years and then what ?? falls in love with this murdering monster??

There is no way "love" would make me do something this crazy.

I have been reading up and watching it on the news and every once in awhile, I just blurt out " WHY ?? what would make her do this??"
To which my family will answer with..... Love.

NOPE-- I don't get it either.

Edited to add--- I don't think she will be alive for long, if he hasn't killed her already. So sad

 

[PhoneJockey]

I just found this article. I'm willing to bet, given the timeline we know of CW/VW interactions paired with COVID restrictions, that VW only visited him in Bessemer (prison) via these video visits and emessages. This would have made it MUCH easier for her to use an alias with him since there isn't the rigorous approval and ID process that in person visits require.

Alabama prison facilities introduce new video visitation services

 

[Herat]

What happens to all that "correspondence " that inmates get?

Are there copies made of it? Is it in the possession of inmates or does the DOC keep it?

Would Vicky be in a place to remove all CW's correspondence and keep it from the records?

 

[Herat]

Does Vicky have any blood relatives that she is close with?

I believe she was living with her ex- MIL, not her own mother.

Is there anyone else out there to check her DNA against?

 

[PhoneJockey]

Its just a hunch of mine, but I think it’s possible that his tattoos reflect prison-gang affiliations, rather than ‘true beliefs.’ In other words, that he joined up with others for mutual protection, but that the others aren’t people that will risk their own freedom to help him.

Idk? The area he's from and how he's been described by people who know him tell me he's probably full of that "southern pride"

 

[Bravo]

Agree^ somebody needs to do a major overhaul of that Jail. The job comes with enough risk but to blatantly ignore protocols is pathetic. If I was that Sheriff I would be ashamed to even speak out and show my face. I would bury my face in the sand. At the beach

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Does Vicky have any blood relatives that she is close with?

I believe she was living with her ex- MIL, not her own mother.

Is there anyone else out there to check her DNA against?

no, she was living with her own mother. But she had stayed close to her mother in law.
She has fooled everyone.

 

[OddOneOut]

I don't think it's going to go on for long. I'm trying to think of a case where a convicted, violent felon made a jailbreak followed by a nationwide manhunt and actually got away. Anyone...?

Unless they had a hideout where they wouldn't be seen and laid low until "the heat was off?" Of course, they would have to hide the car or ditch it where it wouldn't be seen. Does VW or CW have any place remote that they have visited in the past?

 

[alexwood]

is that true!!!!?

Yes! Right here in Central Alabama: Bridge Road Vineyards (California) Chardonnay [1.5 Liter bottle], light-bodied, semi-dry, with notes described as "delicate flavors of pear and ripe citrus fruits" . . . Aldi ($8.99).

They WILL sell a wine before its time!

 

[CharlestonGal]

What happens to all that "correspondence " that inmates get?

Are there copies made of it? Is it in the possession of inmates or does the DOC keep it?

Would Vicky be in a place to remove all CW's correspondence and keep it from the records?

I don't know what went on at Donaldson State Prison but at the federal prison I worked at all they did was open packages and letters and inspect them for contraband. There weren't enough hours in the day to read every letter or card. Letters were in the possession of the inmates and no, we did not photocopy correspondence.

A closer eye would have been kept on an inmate if there was suspicion something was afoot, but absent that you just check for contraband and move on. jmo

 

[OddOneOut]

IMO, if he is from the backwoods, he feels comfortable there and that is the type of area where they are headed.

ETA - not a beach.

He probably knew exactly where to ditch that bright orange car. With all the money VW had it explains why she bought an old (2007) clunker. No one wants to sink a lot of money into a car they are going to get rid of.

 

[sds71]

'That love bug is tough stuff': Alabama corrections officer weighs in on relationships behind bars

Stacy George is a 13-year veteran Alabama Department of Corrections officer and Alabama candidate for governor. George currently works as an officer inside the state's largest prison: Limestone Correctional Facility.

George said what often starts as innocent flirting can quickly turn serious. He said it's a problem that he personally has not received any special training to handle.


“They (inmates) are calculating. They are talking amongst themselves, every move she makes. They are analyzing everything," George said.

George said it's nearly impossible to police these types of relationships because inmates have access to illegal cell phones with internet access, along with mail, voice and messaging apps that are supposed to be monitored.

He said it doesn't matter if the inmate is housed in a state prison or a county jail.

"To look at every phone call and message is nearly impossible. There's no doubt in my mind that there were people in there that knew what was going on, that work with her. They noticed this, and that should have never happened," George said.

 

[Springrain]

I don't know what went on at Donaldson State Prison but at the federal prison I worked at all they did was open packages and letters and inspect them for contraband. There weren't enough hours in the day to read every letter or card. Letters were in the possession of the inmates and no, we did not photocopy correspondence.

A closer eye would have been kept on an inmate if there was suspicion something was afoot, but absent that you just check for contraband and move on. jmo

Can I ask for clarification on something I've heard? I've heard that letters sent by inmates do not get inspected, because they would have nothing to smuggle out into the outside world. Is this true?

 

[CharlestonGal]

'That love bug is tough stuff': Alabama corrections officer weighs in on relationships behind bars

Stacy George is a 13-year veteran Alabama Department of Corrections officer and Alabama candidate for governor. George currently works as an officer inside the state's largest prison: Limestone Correctional Facility.

George said what often starts as innocent flirting can quickly turn serious. He said it's a problem that he personally has not received any special training to handle.


“They (inmates) are calculating. They are talking amongst themselves, every move she makes. They are analyzing everything," George said.

George said it's nearly impossible to police these types of relationships because inmates have access to illegal cell phones with internet access, along with mail, voice and messaging apps that are supposed to be monitored.

He said it doesn't matter if the inmate is housed in a state prison or a county jail.

"To look at every phone call and message is nearly impossible. There's no doubt in my mind that there were people in there that knew what was going on, that work with her. They noticed this, and that should have never happened," George said.

From your link:

"I’ve witnessed many nurses lose their jobs over this kind of stuff. I see more nurses lose their jobs than I do female officers," George explained."

Me too. Many years working on psych wards I saw a lot of crazy stuff go down between staff (not just nurses) and patients. And he's right. It DOES require training, not just to identify it but to prevent it. I imagine jail is the same. jmo

 

[bestill]

I'm just catching up on this and my head is spinning! How much actual cash could she have? Banks only disburse a certain amount at a time, simply because they don't have a lot of physical cash. When did her home sell?

 

[CharlestonGal]

Can I ask for clarification on something I've heard? I've heard that letters sent by inmates do not get inspected, because they would have nothing to smuggle out into the outside world. Is this true?

I don't know. At the prison I worked at letters from inmates had to be stamped and unsealed when they arrived at the mail room. And the only reason I know that is because the inmates griped about it constantly. Invasion of privacy and such. I don't know what the practices were at Donaldson. jmo

ETA: They also griped about their incoming packages being opened and pawed through by corrections staff. I'd just internally roll my eyes and think, "You are aware this is a jail and not the Hilton, right?"