Recovered/Located AL - Casey White, prisoner, & Vicky Sue White (Deceased), CO w/sher office, Lauderdale, 29 Apr'22 *Reward* #6

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Vanderburgh County, IN Sheriff's Office has released their police reports by responding officers at the link below:

Slightly OT...but that collection of documents is awesome! I wish our local LE would do something similar. I wonder if Vanderburgh County decided to make all those documents public because of the high-profile nature of the case?

There's a plethora of stuff there to keep all WebSleuthers busy for a couple of hours.
 
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Words from the Sheriff:

Vicky White’s final moments were captured on an audio call with 911 dispatchers. She can be heard saying that airbags are going off and suggest they get out and run, telling Casey White to get them back to the hotel.

“She did not call 911, the car called 911 and just picked up the conversation. It was sort of difficult to listen to,” said Singleton.
 
  • #783
Vanderburgh County, IN Sheriff's Office has released their police reports by responding officers at the link below:

From the linked dashcam, I'm stunned by number of law enforcement vehicles responding. How'd they mobilize that many, that fast? Impressive.

JMO
 
  • #784
She was mentioned as a companion in a boyfriend's obit. I haven't seen anything about a 2nd marriage. Bryan Keith Garner (1960-2009) - Find a Grave...

Here is her Find a Grave obit:

Other obit:
Was BG a boyfriend? It looks like his mother's maiden name was White. Also her husbands mother's maiden name was Davis (Vicky Sue's maiden name also). Confusing! MOO
 
  • #785
Slightly OT...but that collection of documents is awesome! I wish our local LE would do something similar. I wonder if Vanderburgh County decided to make all those documents public because of the high-profile nature of the case?

There's a plethora of stuff there to keep all WebSleuthers busy for a couple of hours.
I think there have been many errors by MSM reporting details about the case and I agree it was helpful to read first-hand accounts by officers.

IMO, had VW survived, I don't believe the docs would have been released anytime before her preliminary hearing. In this situation, it was at the discretion of the Vanderburgh County Sheriff's office to release them albeit heavily redacted.
 
  • #786
From the linked dashcam, I'm stunned by number of law enforcement vehicles responding. How'd they mobilize that many, that fast? Impressive.

JMO
Impressed with how LE handled this whole situation and saved others from getting killed.
 
  • #787
From the linked dashcam, I'm stunned by number of law enforcement vehicles responding. How'd they mobilize that many, that fast? Impressive.

JMO

They knew they were at the hotel. They were getting ready to take them. One of the LE released transcripts that began before the chase started revelaed that they were holding cars/units back. Then the chase started.... JMHO.
 
  • #788
My opinion after listening to the last audio of vicki is she did not commit suicide. Audio doesnt match suicide. I feel strongly about that. I believe he was driving also. She told him to stop several times. Why would she sternly say stop to him? If he wasnt driving then what did she want him to stop? Now remember, his ex wife or girlfriend that suposedly committed suicide by shotgun to chest they are looking at that death as possibly not suicide. When at the time of shooting they believed it was def suicide.
 
  • #789
From the linked dashcam, I'm stunned by number of law enforcement vehicles responding. How'd they mobilize that many, that fast? Impressive.

JMO
I’m pretty sure they were watching them at this point. Moo
 
  • #790
Was BG a boyfriend? It looks like his mother's maiden name was White. Also her husbands mother's maiden name was Davis (Vicky Sue's maiden name also). Confusing! MOO
Reportedly, VW divorced her husband (Tommy) around 2006, and from the link, the companion (BG) was killed in an auto accident in 2009. The former husband died Jan 2022 -- succumbing to Parkinson's disease. I suppose some may see her as unlucky in love.

5/4/22 Ex-mom-in-law 'worried' about guard's safety after escape with convict lover

Vicky was once married to Frances' son Tommy, who passed away in January aged 62 following a battle with Parkinson's disease. They were married for just over four years but separated 16 years ago when Tommy's drug addiction became too much for Vicky to handle.

Despite their separation, Frances said Vicky and Tommy split amicably and remained close right up until his death at the turn of the year.

"I always thought of Vicky as a daughter," Frances said. "I've known her since she was a little girl ... But I hate seeing her doing this.

"I want to tell Vicky to call somebody and let them know she's alright.

"I'm shocked she is even capable of doing something like this," she added
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Words from the Sheriff:

Vicky White’s final moments were captured on an audio call with 911 dispatchers. She can be heard saying that airbags are going off and suggest they get out and run, telling Casey White to get them back to the hotel.

“She did not call 911, the car called 911 and just picked up the conversation. It was sort of difficult to listen to,” said Singleton.
From the above...
“She did not call 911, the car called 911 and just picked up the conversation. It was sort of difficult to listen to,” said Singleton.

This is what many of us have thought all along, If true, it does dispel any notion some had, even some media, that VW had called 9-1-1 and engaged in any conversation with them. All of her conversation was clearly with CW. JMO
 
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  • #792
From the linked dashcam, I'm stunned by number of law enforcement vehicles responding. How'd they mobilize that many, that fast? Impressive.

JMO
They had a great tip off from carwash, knew exactly where the runaways were. Many police cars followed them out of motel carpark.
Indeed would be interesting to know at what km from motel the car ended up in ditch.
 
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Words from the Sheriff:

Vicky White’s final moments were captured on an audio call with 911 dispatchers. She can be heard saying that airbags are going off and suggest they get out and run, telling Casey White to get them back to the hotel.

“She did not call 911, the car called 911 and just picked up the conversation. It was sort of difficult to listen to,” said Singleton.
This is exactly what I heard on the audio. Nothing more nothing less. Other sounds were static, sirens and noise. No discernable verbiage. MO
 
  • #794
Well...I'm going to hold my breath and share my opinion. It's only an opinion. I'm a very open-minded person, so feel free to offer up constructive objections...but please don't be mean! I think that they loved each other. (the kind only they understood, I guess) My opinion only, V.W. had some issues, but was basically a good person. In my opinion only, the crime that C.W. was convicted of, should have been considered a 'crime of passion' and also with mental issues??
Moo 75 years?!?
I mean, what kind of lawyer did he have? Not a high-priced one, surely? (I have to admit that I didn't like the part about him killing a dog, though. I love dogs!) Also the murder that he confessed to is in question. It's not proven, even. Thank you to Websleuths, and Tricia, for letting me share my opinion.

MOO

Killing the dog is the absolute least of my concerns. It sounded as though it might have been an accident—violent criminal accident, maybe.

But you refer to the ‘crime’ he committed. That should be ‘crimes in the plural. Consider the multiple violent carjackings. One woman, a complete stranger, only survived through amazing luck, after the flurry of bullets he fired into her car, wounding her. I don’t consider that a crime of passion, and for that matter, I don’t think that his anger at his ex-girlfriend is any justification for his trying to murder her and her roommates.

And yes, it does sound as though they had some human feelings for each other.

MOO
 
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This is exactly what I heard on the audio. Nothing more nothing less. Other sounds were static, sirens and noise. No discernable verbiage. MO
Same here.
 
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Updated: May 11, 2022 / 06:08 PM CDT

Casey White did not say anything about Vicky White when he was brought back to Lauderdale County Wednesday night from Indiana, where the duo’s car crashed after it was rammed by U.S. Marshals.

Singleton said he believes the veteran officer was conned and manipulated.

“I think he convinced her she was really something special to him but if you watch the video footage of when he was apprehended not a single expression of remorse, not a single expression of grief,” said Singleton.

Vicky White’s final moments were captured on an audio call with 911 dispatchers. She can be heard saying that airbags are going off and suggest they get out and run, telling Casey White to get them back to the hotel.

“She did not call 911, the car called 911 and just picked up the conversation. It was sort of difficult to listen to,” said Singleton.

Singleton said so far investigators have not discovered any communications that Vicky White left behind that might provide more insight into her mindset and actions. He said he called her mother to offer condolences.

“I really think she was struggling with the thought of having to come back here face her family, face her coworkers in light of what she had done, I think that weighed heavily on her,” said Singleton.
 
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My opinion after listening to the last audio of vicki is she did not commit suicide. Audio doesnt match suicide. I feel strongly about that. I believe he was driving also. She told him to stop several times. Why would she sternly say stop to him? If he wasnt driving then what did she want him to stop? Now remember, his ex wife or girlfriend that suposedly committed suicide by shotgun to chest they are looking at that death as possibly not suicide. When at the time of shooting they believed it was def suicide.

I don't think the plan was to ever go back to AL. When she broke him out of jail, her life as a Corrections Officer was over. She sold her home and spent a large chunk on this endeavor. She bought guns-- all sorts including an assault rifle. They weren't going hunting with the fire power she bought (--she bought because he couldn't and didn't have ID). It was pretty clear that they were not coming out of this and going back to their old lives--- him in prison and her in AL with family. I think her comments on the 911 call were uttered because she had not anticipated an apprehension at that point in time. AT the moment they left the motel that day they were no longer in control and I think she wanted to be in control. I also think that she and he had made a pact or had conversations that focused on the end game plan---- a shoot out to the death with LE. (It surprises me because she was so closely aligned with LE in her profession.) It was going to be more like take out some cops and then they take VW/CW out. I don't think she anticipated that he would put up his hands and surrender.

If there was even a tinnnnnnny chance that this was not a suicide I believe that LE would have looked to exploit that and keep searching for evidence that CW killed her. But, his hands were out the window when the gun went off so murder is off the table.

The car had already wrecked when LE heard the gun go off. CW says she killed herself (while letting them know he did not kill her). So there doesn't appear to be an accidental discharge ----the car was on its side, the gun was in her hand, Le was moving in and she was in a moment going to lose control over her body, her life, and her story. I think she was not going to go back. And, she shot herself.The gun remained in her hand until LE took it out.

I just don't see her making a decision to be taken alive. Maybe that is the important distinction. This was not a suicide as much as it was a determination not to be taken alive--- to home, to trial, to prison, without the person she left it all behind for.JMHO.
 
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I don't think the plan was to ever go back to AL. When she broke him out of jail, her life as a Corrections Officer was over. She sold her home and spent a large chunk on this endeavor. She bought guns-- all sorts including an assault rifle. They weren't going hunting with the fire power she bought (--she bought because he couldn't and didn't have ID). It was pretty clear that they were not coming out of this and going back to their old lives--- him in prison and her in AL with family. I think her comments on the 911 call were uttered because she had not anticipated an apprehension at that point in time. AT the moment they left the motel that day they were no longer in control and I think she wanted to be in control. I also think that she and he had made a pact or had conversations that focused on the end game plan---- a shoot out to the death with LE. (It surprises me because she was so closely aligned with LE in her profession.) It was going to be more like take out some cops and then they take VW/CW out. I don't think she anticipated that he would put up his hands and surrender.

If there was even a tinnnnnnny chance that this was not a suicide I believe that LE would have looked to exploit that and keep searching for evidence that CW killed her. But, his hands were out the window when the gun went off so murder is off the table.

The car had already wrecked when LE heard the gun go off. CW says she killed herself (while letting them know he did not kill her). So there doesn't appear to be an accidental discharge ----the car was on its side, the gun was in her hand, Le was moving in and she them. The gun remained in her hand until LE took it out.

I just don't see her making a decision to not be taken alive. Maybe that is the important distinction. This was not a suicide as much as it was a determination not to be taken alive--- to home, to trial, to prison, without the person she left it all behind for.JMHO.
I think she thought this would end like Romeo and Juliet. Willing to die for and with her. Except Romeo was such a coward all he could do was wave his hands out the window and hope they didnt shoot him. She did all this for nothing. And he told them he wanted to go back to AL. So he is home. She is dead. jmo.
 
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I don't think the plan was to ever go back to AL. When she broke him out of jail, her life as a Corrections Officer was over. She sold her home and spent a large chunk on this endeavor. She bought guns-- all sorts including an assault rifle. They weren't going hunting with the fire power she bought (--she bought because he couldn't and didn't have ID). It was pretty clear that they were not coming out of this and going back to their old lives--- him in prison and her in AL with family. I think her comments on the 911 call were uttered because she had not anticipated an apprehension at that point in time. AT the moment they left the motel that day they were no longer in control and I think she wanted to be in control. I also think that she and he had made a pact or had conversations that focused on the end game plan---- a shoot out to the death with LE. (It surprises me because she was so closely aligned with LE in her profession.) It was going to be more like take out some cops and then they take VW/CW out. I don't think she anticipated that he would put up his hands and surrender.

If there was even a tinnnnnnny chance that this was not a suicide I believe that LE would have looked to exploit that and keep searching for evidence that CW killed her. But, his hands were out the window when the gun went off so murder is off the table.

The car had already wrecked when LE heard the gun go off. CW says she killed herself (while letting them know he did not kill her). So there doesn't appear to be an accidental discharge ----the car was on its side, the gun was in her hand, Le was moving in and she was in a moment going to lose control over her body, her life, and her story. I think she was not going to go back.
And, she shot herself.The gun remained in her hand until LE took it out.

I just don't see her making a decision to be taken alive. Maybe that is the important distinction. This was not a suicide as much as it was a determination not to be taken alive--- to home, to trial, to prison, without the person she left it all behind for.JMHO.

Or, rather than a desire to die, a determination to not face the consequences of her actions?
 
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