AL AL - Danniella Vian, 24, Mobile, 17 Jul 2018 #3

[Cmpeezy251]

In the beginning I questioned this as well because I most likely would have sounded an alarm but then I asked my husband and he said, " it was late, I probably would have gone home and figured I would get in touch with her later." and he would have taking queues from the people that seemed to know her.

I can see that as a good possibility, and DW didn’t know her that well, according to what has been said.

If I got a call from someone saying they had a family members phone and they didn’t show up to a place they said they were gonna be at... my reaction would differ depending on who the family member was and how out of character it would be for them. If it was my aunt who is notorious for doing stuff like that I would wait a little longer to hear from her to be honest because one minute she might say she’s going here and on the way decide to go there and doesn’t really care about her phone that much. On the other hand if it were someone else that I know would not not show up somewhere to get their phone I would immediately be calling people, knocking on doors and contacting LE.

 

[whatinthekentuckyhell]

We have never answered the question of who would want to hurt DNV. I keep coming back to the CDC report that over 55% of murdered women are killed by a current or former romantic partner or their family. Less than 16% of women are murdered by a stranger.
Percent of Women Killed by Husbands or Boyfriends - The Atlantic

Have we heard of any ex boyfriends other than TT?

I believe firstly (despite the VI saying hes been “cleared”) that TT needs to be thoroughly looked at - I have said since thread 1 something about the family just doesn’t sit well in my gut.

Who is the father to mystery baby born in June?
This new baby opens a whole slew of questions and could absolutely be the key in this case, imo. The father to the baby could also be the key to why LE is tight lipped.. who does he know? Who does his family know?

 

[Alethea]

I wonder if what is meant is that DNV had plans to meet her friends later. The people with DNV so far the evening she went missing weren't really her friends. She could have just been biding her time until her friends who might be more inclined to start partying after 11 pm/12 pm were ready to head out to have fun. Speculation but if you are 24 then 11 pm is early.

This is a good point, but there is no reason we should be focused on DW, RC, or MK in that case. The only reason to question DW was his unenviable role as the last identified person to see DNV the night she disappeared. But I agree with Otto, he has an alibi: he was on the Shell station camera at 11:07 and then at Dublin's receiving the phone when DNV was intercepted.

Who were DNV's friends? Not asking for an answer or sleuthing random people, but theoretically? Where's the venn diagram of DNV's friends and people with criminal histories, particularly for domestic violence or assault? That is where I would look, and I'm sure LE is looking.

 

[otto]

We have never answered the question of who would want to hurt DNV. I keep coming back to the CDC report that over 55% of murdered women are killed by a current or former romantic partner or their family. Less than 16% of women are murdered by a stranger.
Percent of Women Killed by Husbands or Boyfriends - The Atlantic

I keep returning to the one significant change in Danni's circumstances. She was poised to resume full day to day care and control of her daughter at the start of the school year. We know that there was going to be a custody battle because there was a history of custody disputes.

Instead of life as a full time single mom with a little girl, she and her car vanished on July 17. Her phone was turned into police on July 20 by a friend and at that time she was reported missing. By August 1, her rent was unpaid even though she had lots of cash in her apartment. Her life and plans for a future with her daughter were completely dismantled by the end of August. Her belongings were tossed onto the curb and her life was essentially erased.

 

[whatinthekentuckyhell]

I keep returning to the one significant change in Danni's circumstances. She was poised to resume full day to day care and control of her daughter at the start of the school year. We know that there was going to be a custody battle because there was a history of custody disputes.

Instead of her life as a full time single mom with a little girl, she and her car vanished on July 17. Her phone was turned into police on July 20 by a friend and at that time she was reported missing. By August 1, her rent was unpaid even though she had lots of cash in her apartment. Her life and plans for a future with her daughter were completely dismantled by the end of August. Her belongings were tossed onto the curb and her life was essentially erased.

I think this post says it all for me.
Everything she worked so hard for gone within weeks.. and her family didn’t even attempt to maintain that in hopes that she returned.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

I keep returning to the one significant change in Danni's circumstances. She was poised to resume full day to day care and control of her daughter at the start of the school year. We know that there was going to be a custody battle because there was a history of custody disputes.

Instead of life as a full time single mom with a little girl, she and her car vanished on July 17. Her phone was turned into police on July 20 by a friend and at that time she was reported missing. By August 1, her rent was unpaid even though she had lots of cash in her apartment. Her life and plans for a future with her daughter were completely dismantled by the end of August. Her belongings were tossed onto the curb and her life was essentially erased.

Exactly!

 

[whatinthekentuckyhell]

Is anybody else starting to get the feeling that DNV had no real friends or family?
I think it’s telling that she was missing for days before she was missed by anybody.

 

[AtticusFitz]

11 pm at 24 may be early. Yet, her body would still be in recovery from giving birth. Even without being woken at all hours, six weeks post-birth is still in the ‘recovery’ stage.

With that said, many food service workers have ‘shifted’ hours, in that their work days often lasts longer than a regular 9-5 job. But, if DNV had plans to meet up with a different group of frineds later that evening/early morning, wouldn’t there be chatter about her not being there?

Absolutely agree. But the baby I believe was adopted at birth and so she wasn't involved with the usual no sleep routine associated with newborns. Perhaps the VI will pop in and address this issue as I think it would be helpful to understand how DNV might have been feeling at this point post baby delivery.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Is anybody else starting to get the feeling that DNV had no real friends or family?
I think it’s telling that she was missing for days before she was missed by anybody.

I do think that. But why not? Look how pretty and personable and outgoing she looks. She appears happy and friendly on the outside. Did she have invisible pain inside?

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[Alethea]

Is anybody else starting to get the feeling that DNV had no real friends or family?
I think it’s telling that she was missing for days before she was missed by anybody.

Yes, it's heartbreaking. Every time I step back or try to work on something else or even read another thread I feel guilty. I tweeted national crime reporters and missing persons agencies today with Danni's NAMUS page and asked them to look into it.

It's even more sad to think this was less than 2 months after she gave birth. She may have been suffering postpartum depression or sadness in giving up her baby even if it is what she wanted to do. And then she just disappeared and no one cared for days. Even now, no one really cares.

 

[ChiCubs2016]

I keep returning to the one significant change in Danni's circumstances. She was poised to resume full day to day care and control of her daughter at the start of the school year. We know that there was going to be a custody battle because there was a history of custody disputes.

Instead of life as a full time single mom with a little girl, she and her car vanished on July 17. Her phone was turned into police on July 20 by a friend and at that time she was reported missing. By August 1, her rent was unpaid even though she had lots of cash in her apartment. Her life and plans for a future with her daughter were completely dismantled by the end of August. Her belongings were tossed onto the curb and her life was essentially erased.

I think this post says it all for me.
Everything she worked so hard for gone within weeks.. and her family didn’t even attempt to maintain that in hopes that she returned.

Both post made me feel really bad for Danni. Posting her pic, just because!

 

[AtticusFitz]

Is anybody else starting to get the feeling that DNV had no real friends or family?
I think it’s telling that she was missing for days before she was missed by anybody.

Agree. But to me that delay in reporting, the $5,000 fund raising with no PI or visible expenditures, along with the immediate dismantling of the apt is telling us a vitally important story about the people that surrounded DNV. You can't easily mimic compassion and caring. DNV did have friends that cared about her but sadly we haven't heard from them on this thread. I'm not sure her friends were with her the night she disappeared and I wonder why?

 

[Cmpeezy251]

I keep returning to the one significant change in Danni's circumstances. She was poised to resume full day to day care and control of her daughter at the start of the school year. We know that there was going to be a custody battle because there was a history of custody disputes.

Instead of life as a full time single mom with a little girl, she and her car vanished on July 17. Her phone was turned into police on July 20 by a friend and at that time she was reported missing. By August 1, her rent was unpaid even though she had lots of cash in her apartment. Her life and plans for a future with her daughter were completely dismantled by the end of August. Her belongings were tossed onto the curb and her life was essentially erased.

Even if we have ideas who might want DNV out of the way it’s not really within the rules to speak on it, right? And any info gathered and pieced together from searching public records is not allowed either, correct?
I’m sincerely asking and not being a bit facetious, Other than adding things up from the timeline of info given what is allowed to be said? Nobody but LE and the people that were actually there that night knows anything other than what’s on the missing persons flyers really. Other than this is not a typical missing persons case. It’s hard to only speak on facts reported if there are very few.

I just don’t want to violate the rules, laws and certainly don’t want to hinder the investigation

 

[AtticusFitz]

Even if we have ideas who might want DNV out of the way it’s not really within the rules to speak on it, right? And any info gathered and pieced together from searching public records is not allowed either, correct?
I’m sincerely asking and not being a bit facetious, Other than adding things up from the timeline of info given what is allowed to be said? Nobody but LE and the people that were actually there that night knows anything other than what’s on the missing persons flyers really. Other than this is not a typical missing persons case. It’s hard to only speak on facts reported if there are very few.

I just don’t want to violate the rules, laws and certainly don’t want to hinder the investigation

I hear what you are saying but we have been exploring hypothetical ideas and some have been promising I think.

 

[Alethea]

I mean everything is portrayed as hunky dory but DNV's relationship was strained to the point that her ex filed a public petition for custody accusing her of being an unfit mother, attaching pages of pictures of her allegedly drinking and using drugs with snarky comments like, "The same smile she manipulates with."

I know couples get into arguments and fights but filing a lawsuit attaching incriminating photos of your child's mother to be forever in public court records seems uniquely vindictive and not something a woman would easily forget.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Both post made me feel really bad for Danni. Posting her pic, just because!

At least she has a case# here. I still am very suspicious why would a local police department contribute $2000 for the reward? This is a rarity so early in the game?
https://app.alea.gov/BaseReportExtranet/wfReportView.aspx?ID=3bd19e8e-1135-4acc-902c-65404b5d8cb5
The Mobile Police Department is offering $2,000 to anyone that can offer information that leads to the discovery of missing Mobile woman Danniella Vian.

MPD Chief of Police Lawrence Battiste said that Vian's case is not an ordinary missing person scenario.

"Some people go missing because they want to," he said during a press conference Thursday , while also adding that Vian had no history of disappearing. "There is nothing that has led investigators to where she might be."
$2,000 reward offered in Danniella Vian missing person case

 

[otto]

Even if we have ideas who might want DNV out of the way it’s not really within the rules to speak on it, right? And any info gathered and pieced together from searching public records is not allowed either, correct?
I’m sincerely asking and not being a bit facetious, Other than adding things up from the timeline of info given what is allowed to be said? Nobody but LE and the people that were actually there that night knows anything other than what’s on the missing persons flyers really. Other than this is not a typical missing persons case. It’s hard to only speak on facts reported if there are very few.

I just don’t want to violate the rules, laws and certainly don’t want to hinder the investigation

We don't know who is behind Danni's abduction, only that she is missing and that whoever was in Car 3 is responsible. At this time, the occupants of Car 3 are unknown, and we do not know whether this was a spontaneous random abduction and car theft, or whether someone followed her from The Dublin with the intent of making her and her car vanish.

 

[whatinthekentuckyhell]

I mean everything is portrayed as hunky dory but DNV's relationship was strained to the point that her ex filed a public petition for custody accusing her of being an unfit mother, attaching pages of pictures of her allegedly drinking and using drugs with snarky comments like, "The same smile she manipulates with."

I know couples get into arguments and fights but filing a lawsuit attaching incriminating photos of your child's mother to be forever in public court records seems uniquely vindictive and not something a woman would easily forget.

Agreed 100%
Couples fight. Couples don’t file lawsuits against each other. This seems like an extra volatile relationship.

 

[Alethea]

Even if we have ideas who might want DNV out of the way it’s not really within the rules to speak on it, right? And any info gathered and pieced together from searching public records is not allowed either, correct?
I’m sincerely asking and not being a bit facetious, Other than adding things up from the timeline of info given what is allowed to be said? Nobody but LE and the people that were actually there that night knows anything other than what’s on the missing persons flyers really. Other than this is not a typical missing persons case. It’s hard to only speak on facts reported if there are very few.

I just don’t want to violate the rules, laws and certainly don’t want to hinder the investigation

Sleuthing friends and family and discussing their personal information on the thread is outside of TOS except information reported by LE or MSM. The exception seems to be the people in the VI's timeline, but I do not know why since they were not named by LE.

However, we are usually free to discuss theories that do not name (or specifically focus on) a particular individual. The focus is on not bringing innocent people into a thread. We can still develop a picture of a suspect or suspects based on what we know about the victim.

For example, I think it is fine if we discuss if we think Car 3 was a known or unknown individual. We would not be "naming and shaming", but rather discussing what may have happened.

 

[Cmpeezy251]

I hear what you are saying but we have been exploring hypothetical ideas and some have been promising I think.

Oh I agree wholeheartedly and I have several hypothetical situations and pieces of info that I don’t want to throw out there if it’s not what’s allowed.