AL AL - Danniella Vian, 24, Mobile, 17 Jul 2018 #3

[AtticusFitz]

I've been going back to the beginning and looking at press coverage. This video was Week 1 WKRG Mary Smith Reports when Homicide took over the case

WKRG

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Here’s another early one that states the police say the surveillance video captured Danniella leaving and that they may have more footage of her but they weren’t willing to discuss that.

 

[otto]

I’ve wondered about that - and wondered if she was in the trunk after leaving Dublin’s (pure speculation on my part). A bit back, I asked if DNV had the ‘my car’ app on her phone, which from reading about it appears to be able to do a remote start on the vehicle regardless of location? (I don’t have remote start, so really don’t know.) What if Car 2 stalled at the Shell, and needed to be restarted and Car 1 needed to return to Dublin’s, find the phone, and do a remote start on the car? Which I believe would be evident to the MPD through phone analysis, so probably not the case. Just some out-of-the box crazy musings.

By all accounts, Danniella and DW were not experiencing any car trouble. Danni flashed her headlights at DW when she realized she'd left her phone at The Dublin. DW decided where to pull over, and they had a 2 minute conversation about the phone. In less than 2 minutes they turned around to retrieve the phone.

DW pulled out and, although he saw Danni's headlights in the mirror and assumed that she was following him, she was intercepted before she could leave the Shell station. That was the end of Danni.

I still have a big question about why Car 3 disabled her GPS? How did they know about it? They weren't carjackers because carjackers don't complicate their lives with random abduction and/or murder. They were after Danni and by eliminating the car they open the question of whether she voluntarily disappeared.

What made them decide that the most important first step is to disable tracking, especially if she was a random victim? Do carjackers who abduct people intuitively know which cars have trackers? If they googled "how to disable a GPS" at the Shell station, police should ask FBI to identify which numbers triangulate to that location between 11:05 and 11:24 PM on July 17.

 

[LaylaD]

Well ... I managed to find the private page yesterday and decided to join. Still waiting on being accepted (almost 20+ hours later).... yet, real life calls, and I'm off to music rehearsals.

It appears that I was denied access to the group. Interesting.

 

[cody22]

By all accounts, Danniella and DW were not experiencing any car trouble. Danni flashed her headlights at DW when she realized she'd left her phone at The Dublin. DW decided where to pull over, and they had a 2 minute conversation about the phone. In less than 2 minutes they turned around to retrieve the phone.

DW pulled out and, although he saw Danni's headlights in the mirror and assumed that she was following him, she was intercepted before she could leave the Shell station. That was the end of Danni.

I still have a big question about why Car 3 disabled her GPS? How did they know about it? They weren't carjackers because carjackers don't complicate their lives with random abduction and/or murder. They were after Danni and by eliminating the car they open the question of whether she voluntarily disappeared.

What made them decide that the most important first step is to disable tracking, especially if she was a random victim? Do carjackers who abduct people intuitively know which cars have trackers? If they googled "how to disable a GPS" at the Shell station, police should ask FBI to identify which numbers triangulate to that location between 11:05 and 11:24 PM on July 17.

Maybe they just destroyed it with a hammer or screwdriver ? They were gonna get rid of the car anyway, somehow. I bet they possibly spent just as much time looking for her phone on her, or in the front seat of that car.

 

[cody22]

It appears that I was denied access to the group. Interesting.

It sounds like a very exclusive tightly controlled private club.

 

[otto]

Regarding Car 3, if the people in Car 3 are random unknown strangers, they sure knew a lot about her brand new 2014 Chevrolet Cruz to disable the GPS in the 16 minutes before leaving the Shell station (with Danni's car).

Is that car a popular model for car thieves? Doesn't seem like it. Would random strangers who are after any victim at a gas station late at night instantly think of disabling the GPS? Is the Chevrolet Cruz the latest craze in cars today - better than a Porsche. Don't think so.

There's something that doesn't add up with a random stranger encountering Danni at the gas station and first thinking to disable GPS simply because they would have no idea what type of car their random victim was driving. It almost seems like Car 3 knew what type of car Danni would be driving and what needed to be done before leaving the gas station.

If it's not a random stranger, then it makes a lot more sense.

If it is not a random stranger, then I think we need to look more carefully at who had a reason to want to get rid of Danni and give the illusion that she left voluntarily, and who knew that she was driving her brand new car that night - "barhopping" with the "party train."

 

[AtticusFitz]

It appears that I was denied access to the group. Interesting.

Don't feel badly its quite a badge of honor to be excluded IMO!

 

[Mauge]

What made them decide that the most important first step is to disable tracking, especially if she was a random victim? Do carjackers who abduct people intuitively know which cars have trackers? If they googled "how to disable a GPS" at the Shell station, police should ask FBI to identify which numbers triangulate to that location between 11:05 and 11:24 PM on July 17.

What about a GPS jammer device? I don't really know how they work, but they promise deactivating any tracking device for a low price, and are available on eBay and Amazon.

 

[cluciano63]

I would think that as LE does not want searches taking place that they had an idea of what happened/who. But this proved not to be true in Mollie Tibbet’s case as they had no idea who the perp was until the day he was arrested. Jmo

 

[LaylaD]

Don't feel badly its quite a badge of honor to be excluded IMO!

I’m trying not to pout. I just wanted to be part of the ‘in’ crowd!!

 

[AtticusFitz]

I’m trying not to pout. I just wanted to be part of the ‘in’ crowd!!

You are part of the 'in' crowd! Just sayin!

 

[otto]

What about a GPS jammer device? I don't really know how they work, but they promise deactivating any tracking device for a low price, and are available on eBay and Amazon.

So a random stranger decided that her car was worth stealing, so they pulled out their GPS jammer device and in the next 16 minutes disabled the GPS? I don't think her car is worth stealing.

A random Car 3 means they had no idea what type of car she was driving, and it means that she was a coincidental victim. Why didn't they leave her at the gas station and take the car?

Since they took her, and they knew that they had to disable the GPS, it seems that it was not random. If it was not random:

• who knew that she had a car (she picked it up that afternoon)
• who knew what type of car it was and that the GPS had to be disabled
• who needs 15 minutes to disable that type of GPS (pro or clown)
• who had reason to erase her
• who benefits most from her disappearance

 

[imstilla.grandma]

This is the cool kid’s lunch table. We keep it real. YOLO!

 

[imstilla.grandma]

So a random stranger decided that her car was worth stealing, so they pulled out their GPS jammer device and in the next 16 minutes disabled the GPS? I don't think her car is worth stealing.

A random Car 3 means they had no idea what type of car she was driving, and it means that she was a coincidental victim. Why didn't they leave her at the gas station and take the car?

Since they took her, and they knew that they had to disable the GPS, it seems that it was not random. If it was not random:

• who knew that she had a car (she picked it up that afternoon)
• who knew what type of car it was and that the GPS had to be disabled
• who needs 15 minutes to disable that type of GPS (pro or clown)
• who had reason to erase her
• who benefits most from her disappearance

Where did the photo of her car come from?

 

[Mauge]

So a random stranger decided that her car was worth stealing, so they pulled out their GPS jammer device and in the next 16 minutes disabled the GPS? I don't think her car is worth stealing

Neither do I. I think it was someone she knew, trying to make it look like she just decided to go away. I was just trying to figure out how they managed to disable the gps.

 

[AtticusFitz]

What about a GPS jammer device? I don't really know how they work, but they promise deactivating any tracking device for a low price, and are available on eBay and Amazon.

Yes, jammer devices are becoming increasingly popular options. The process to deactivate the GPS/OnStar on the Cruze doesn't look too difficult to do (see videos posted in previous thread or just check on you tube). I am not mechanical at all and did it on my car with no issue in about 10 min by following instructions I found online (do not recommend trying this as resetting it was another thing entirely and I had to go back to dealer for reset which they luckily did free). I am surprised that it took 15 min or so. But maybe the lighting was poor at the station and they had to deal with DNV.

 

[cody22]

This is the cool kid’s lunch table. We keep it real. YOLO!

Layla, You are welcome to hang out by the coffee pot and donuts with me ?

 

[AtticusFitz]

Where did the photo of her car come from?

Pearl Motors put a series of 3 pictures of the actual DNV vehicle on their website shortly after the disappearance. I have tried to see if the VIN number can be seen but have had no luck in seeing it on any of the 3 pictures posted.

 

[Alethea]

It appears that I was denied access to the group. Interesting.

What?! I thought it was a totally public NAMUS-like page meant to bring awareness to a missing person and not a private gossip club?