AL AL - Danniella Vian, 24, Mobile, 17 Jul 2018 #3

[ChiCubs2016]

Just found this interactive map on Danni's website:

Daniella Vian

Looks a bit strange.

"We had amassed over 300 cases that are supporting our missing can be found in the geometry when the gravitational position and pull of the planets is translated over the terrain from point last seen. We are trying to solve the problem with a method of predictability to identify potent whereabouts."

Huh? So someone is using planet alignment to determine DNV's wherabouts?

 

[Cmpeezy251]

Regarding the child being out of town I think I recall the reporter or JDT stating that in one of the media interviews. She said she (the child) was to return on the Thursday or Friday though, not the Tuesday she disappeared. I’ll see if I can find the link to that interview.

Additionally in the comments of one MSM report, a friend states he gave her rides to work prior to her getting that car.

I too think that confirmation of how often the GPS refreshed is key information. What if she did miss a turn and run in a lake on the way back to Dublin’s.

Thank you. I’ve been looking all over the World Wide Web and can’t find that particular video or article. But I know I saw/read it more than once. I’m not giving up though and as soon as I find it I’ll post it unless someone else can find it.

I live locally and I really can’t think of any body of water on any route back to Dublin that she would’ve drove off in and the car be submerged.

 

[Vail]

I wasn't considering it until Otto's last posts but do you think she was killed at the Shell station? I had been under the impression that if she was undoubtedly harmed it would appear somehow on the video but maybe it was too dark so you wouldn't be able to see people?

I doubt this, but she could have been incapacitated. If the goal was the car, I doubt she was killed in it.

I still have a big question about why Car 3 disabled her GPS? How did they know about it? They weren't carjackers because carjackers don't complicate their lives with random abduction and/or murder.

RSBM

There are a lot of assumptions here, otto. We don't know Car 3 did it. If this was a theft, the perp will not only immediately disable any tracking device (they know a lot about the makes/models they steal) but may not have any qualms about pistol-whipping, raping, selling or otherwise eliminating the driver. Consider the kind of individual who is in a gang, has probably served time and may also have a drug habit. It is possible Danni has just been abducted, or is being trafficked, or died by accident when they stuck her in the trunk or hit her over the head etc.

Is that car a popular model for car thieves?

According to Carfax, Chevy Cruze are in the top 10 most stolen car in America, IMO because they are similar to a Honda Civic, which is the most stolen car. Hers happened to be a unique color with paper plates making it a prime mark. I thought at the beginning of this case that she was obviously carjacked, but am not of the opinion the car was the goal at this point.

Originally statements were made that she was seen later on surveillance in a more "populated place" but that was all LE said.

I've seen this too and it is the main reason I don't think she was carjacked or that the car was what anyone was after necessarily.

Maybe the fact that she just got a new car made somebody nervous. She has no real ties to AL, friends or family, only has cash, she could hypothetically take her daughter and go out of state. I can see her being hormonal, possibly still dealing with the trauma of giving up a second baby, and maybe mentioning the wrong thing to the wrong person.

Not saying that's what she planned, but it's enough that somebody might have thought that and acted out of desperation.

I am hoping @cedgison can get this confirmed for us, but I don't think the baby was that immediately recent (it was like 6 months ago). You have a very good point in general about someone getting nervous. Danni did have a car previously, though.

She would had a car prior to this one. A good deal of cash came from an insurance claim? Was she involved in a car accident serious enough to get money? Was her car totaled?

She wasn’t living with JDT, wasn’t in a relationship with TT and living alone while pregnant which she just gave up for adoption. She is doing it alone and supporting herself. That’s a lot for anyone.

Someone stated earlier that someone else totaled her previous Chevy Cruze, and this was the replacement. It is a plausible assumption that some of the cash used to pay for it was a settlement/payout. It looks like our VI is getting that clarified for us.

The VI couldn’t elaborate on why the whole roofie scenario is a possibility. I realize there isn’t much that we know that would indicate that happening but just to give it some thought...
I’m not sure how long before RC and MK left before DNV and DW so perhaps something was placed into her drink after they left. Dublin’s has a patio that leads right out to the parking lot, you actually have to walk through the patio in order to go inside. So if they were sitting out on the patio there would be a lot less opportunity for people to notice if she was behaving odd.

Let’s say the phone was intentionally left behind so that Dublin’s would be the last ping.

This theory would have to include a third person... maybe driving DNVs car. Once on the interstate the person driving DNVs car realizes that the car has OnStar or whatever onboard gps and flashes the lights to pull over. Car 1 and car 2 pull in the shell and discuss the gps in the car. Car 1 leaves to get the phone. But turns around and comes back because they thought of something else or car 2 calls them to come back. They stay there and disable the gps and discuss the new plan to give reason why the phone was at Dublin’s and the GPS was going in the opposite direction. And to create some alibis...

This doesn’t really make as much sense though as the idea that DNVs recent accomplishments were a threat to someone. Also just a thought... jail is a pretty rock solid alibi... and would definitely make it appear that you had nothing to do with anything.

All simply just a theory based on what we do know, it could be just as far from what actually happened as teleportation.

Danni being put into the trunk of one of the cars or getting in the passenger seat with a different driver at Ollie's is the only way a rufie scenario works. There is simply no rationale as to why a predator would allow her to drive knowing he just slipped her a drug that can incapacitate in as little as 10 minutes. This is still very possible considering some of the ways LE has described the scene at the Shell and speculation that she was not alone in the car (though I've also seen it said both she and DW were driving their respective vehicles, we have no evidence as to how that is known = if the video is the same quality as the still we have, there is no way they could determine that unless they saw people getting in and out)

This is an interesting choice of words. To me there is a big difference in occupying and driving and if they know she was in the car, they know if she was driving or not. MOO

I agree, occupying sounds like she was in the passenger seat or the trunk and they know it. *speculation*

We also have the issue that she called into work to cancel for Tuesday. We haven't debated why this might have been done. Did she not feel well? Did she just want to go get her new car and drive around town? We know she didn't spend the day with her daughter so far as we know? Was she out with friends earlier in the day on Tuesday? Did she need the day to plan things to get out of Mobile?

She was supposed to work at Ollies that Tuesday night she disappeared and took that night off to celebrate her new car with the friends she was with.

Generally speaking, aren’t people usually roofied by people they don’t know?

Not at all. In my case, it was an ex. In the case of girls I've worked with, some were drugged by family members, boyfriends, acquaintences and strangers alike. When the goal is sexual and rufies are used, it is almost always someone you're acquainted with who is able to gain access to your drink. When the goal is murder, it is also almost always someone that knows the victim. Random killers and psychopaths are the exception, though sadly not all that rare these days.

Two months after Danniella Vian went missing, the Mobile Police Department has created a blog aimed at helping to find the 24-year-old mother.

The MPD is asking people to post what they know about her disappearance. The link to the blog is mobilepd.org/finddanniella.

Wow this couldn't be more useless. It has no helpful info beyond what was originally released and no way to comment or submit info directly. I think we are all in agreement here that Danni needs a public Facebook page where info can be released on her case where acceptable, questions can be asked, tips gathered or sleuthed (you'd be amazed what people are willing to say in a FB comment but not call in to LE), searches or other efforts organized, the gofundme promoted and most importantly, Danni's life celebrated so people can feel invested in her. The closed group is great for the family to work on the case internally, of course, but at some point everyone is gonna have to accept that people who talk will do it on a public post, they won't join a group to do it.

 

[ChiCubs2016]

It depends if we believe DW is telling the truth. If she wasn't the one driving then his whole story goes out the window.

It is possible her phone was lost in a struggle and on the way they realized they lost the phone, the driver signaled to him and they stopped at the Shell, and he had to go back for it. (why? is it possible there was evidence on the phone?) Maybe he didn't think he would be seen but after one of the workers gave him the phone he now realizes he had been inserted into the story and had to make up something, call her family, etc.

I was always wondering how could he unlock her phone and call JDT. Now I'm thinking that if it was an iphone it could be opened with a fingerprint so if he is near her / her body he could open it using her finger

If there is evidence on the phone, just erasing it on the phone does not make it go away. I am sure LE subpoenaed phone records. I know criminals have erased phones in the past thinking they could get away with something but they typically get rid of the phone. I think DW would have chucked the phone, not made several attempts to give it to family and then give it to LE.

 

[otto]

It depends if we believe DW is telling the truth. If she wasn't the one driving then his whole story goes out the window.

It is possible her phone was lost in a struggle and on the way they realized they lost the phone, the driver signaled to him and they stopped at the Shell, and he had to go back for it. (why? is it possible there was evidence on the phone?) Maybe he didn't think he would be seen but after one of the workers gave him the phone he now realizes he had been inserted into the story and had to make up something, call her family, etc.

I was always wondering how could he unlock her phone and call JDT. Now I'm thinking that if it was an iphone it could be opened with a fingerprint so if he is near her / her body he could open it using her finger

It sounds like you're assuming that she was "occupying" rather than "driving" her car prior to arriving at the Shell station. That's not how I understand the police statement.

The police statement has a location: Shell station, and Danni occupying her car at that location.

 

[cody22]

Just found this interactive map on Danni's website:

Daniella Vian

Looks a bit strange.

"We had amassed over 300 cases that are supporting our missing can be found in the geometry when the gravitational position and pull of the planets is translated over the terrain from point last seen. We are trying to solve the problem with a method of predictability to identify potent whereabouts."

I told yall a space alien abduction was a possibility.

 

[otto]

Huh? So someone is using planet alignment to determine DNV's wherabouts?

Looks like it. One point of interest is that we discussed Big Creek Lake, and that lake is marked on the map.

 

[Alethea]

If it was a carjacking, why wasn't she either pulled out of the car and left at the gas station, or killed and left at the gas station? Why would a carjacker want to carry a live woman or a dead body around with him in his new car?

 

[sandy11382]

If there is evidence on the phone, just erasing it on the phone does not make it go away. I am sure LE subpoenaed phone records. I know criminals have erased phones in the past thinking they could get away with something but they typically get rid of the phone. I think DW would have chucked the phone, not made several attempts to give it to family and then give it to LE.

But if he drove back and was given the phone by one of the workers, now he can't just get rid of it. He is the last person who has the phone, the worker will probably remember him, and he will have to explain why the phone which was given to him is now missing. It would be good to know if there was anything shady on the phone (deleted data, or proof of somebody messing around with it).

 

[ChiCubs2016]

Looks like it. One point of interest is that we discussed Big Creek Lake, and that lake is marked on the map.

I hope she is not in the Big Creek Lake. I believe this is a reservoir.

 

[Alethea]

Wow this couldn't be more useless. It has no helpful info beyond what was originally released and no way to comment or submit info directly. I think we are all in agreement here that Danni needs a public Facebook page where info can be released on her case where acceptable, questions can be asked, tips gathered or sleuthed (you'd be amazed what people are willing to say in a FB comment but not call in to LE), searches or other efforts organized, the gofundme promoted and most importantly, Danni's life celebrated so people can feel invested in her. The closed group is great for the family to work on the case internally, of course, but at some point everyone is gonna have to accept that people who talk will do it on a public post, they won't join a group to do it.

(Snipped) Vail if you click on the individual blog post, you can register and leave a comment. It seems like they want to prevent unnecessary trolling but provide an anonymous way to leave a tip.

I agree with you though, there is absolutely no reason to not have a public Facebook page.

 

[Vail]

I told yall a space alien abduction was a possibility.

Kidding aside, that site has actually produced some freakily accurate info. Jessica Runions is a good example. Of course, we don't know how much is just common sense and good sleuthing, but regardless I find it interesting how those circled areas are near DW's reported area of awareness. (that is not to accuse him, but Danni very well could have been down in that area because of him) How many of those waterways are deep enough to conceal a car, how many have boat ramps or other roads/deadends going right near the water?

 

[otto]

Wow this couldn't be more useless. It has no helpful info beyond what was originally released and no way to comment or submit info directly. I think we are all in agreement here that Danni needs a public Facebook page where info can be released on her case where acceptable, questions can be asked, tips gathered or sleuthed (you'd be amazed what people are willing to say in a FB comment but not call in to LE), searches or other efforts organized, the gofundme promoted and most importantly, Danni's life celebrated so people can feel invested in her. The closed group is great for the family to work on the case internally, of course, but at some point everyone is gonna have to accept that people who talk will do it on a public post, they won't join a group to do it.

BBM
If you want to post a comment on Danni's website, follow this link:

: Mobile Police Department

 

[otto]

I hope she is not in the Big Creek Lake. I believe this is a reservoir.

It is, but I've been reading about garbage in the lake and it seems that locals don't realize that they are loading their drinking water with garbage.

 

[otto]

(Snipped) Vail if you click on the individual blog post, you can register and leave a comment. It seems like they want to prevent unnecessary trolling but provide an anonymous way to leave a tip.

I agree with you though, there is absolutely no reason to not have a public Facebook page.

Perhaps it's easier for investigators to directly receive relevant tips in sequence through a dedicated webpage rather than have them navigate a facebook page.

 

[Mauge]

Red symbolizes the analysis for planetary patterns at the date and time of disappearance, while Blue or Dark Pink will signify the Birth Chart of the missing victim.

Is... that an official website?

I told yall a space alien abduction was a possibility.

Yeah, I'm going with cody22 and say it was aliens. Makes more sense.

If it was a carjacking, why wasn't she either pulled out of the car and left at the gas station, or killed and left at the gas station? Why would a carjacker want to carry a live woman or a dead body around with him in his new car?

I've been thinking about it, and maybe she knew them and they thought ahe would be able to identify them.
I don't think it was carjacking tho. I believe someone wanted her gone.

 

[MimosaMornings]

I read in several reports by MSM that CT was out of town with family and was due back Thursday, and DNV was suppose to spend the night at JDTs

Did JDT take CT out of town after she took DNV to Pearl Motors?
TT was in rehab/jail.
And DNV goes missing while everyone is gone?

 

[otto]

Is... that an official website?

Yeah, I'm going with cody22 and say it was aliens. Makes more sense.

I've been thinking about it, and maybe she knew them and they thought ahe would be able to identify them.
I don't think it was carjacking tho. I believe someone wanted her gone.

The link to the unusual map is provided by someone who posted a comment to the official website.

 

[Mauge]

The link to the unusual map is provided by someone who posted a comment to the official website.

I see. Thank you!!

 

[Suglo]

Just found this interactive map on Danni's website:

Daniella Vian

Looks a bit strange.

"We had amassed over 300 cases that are supporting our missing can be found in the geometry when the gravitational position and pull of the planets is translated over the terrain from point last seen. We are trying to solve the problem with a method of predictability to identify potent whereabouts."

Lol the first sentence is too much. Basically the missing person can be found on planet earth