AL AL - Danniella Vian, 24, Mobile, 17 Jul 2018 #4

[Vail]

I’ve always wondered this. Like how she ran off with TT at 17 (he was in the military) — maybe she met another military guy? Maybe it’s somebody from her past.. her family has known military ties?
I am hoping she just needed a clean break from Mobile.

This continues to be misquoted so just clarifying here, Danni was 17 when she was living in KS and met TT. They moved to Mobile after she got pregnant, which was when she was 20.

 

[sandy11382]

The one thing that keeps me from believing she possibly left voluntarily is the money that was found in her apartment. She wouldn’t leave that large amount of cash she would need it to survive it seems.

If she wanted to leave voluntarily she could do that. It would have been much easier if she just told JDT "hey I'm just leaving for the weekend / for a few days, to visit friends / family / whatever, don't worry everything's ok I'll be back soon" and just leave and not come back . I doubt anybody would have question her, and it would have given her more time to go off the grid and make sure nobody will be looking for her at least for a few days. And if she wanted to get away why go in the middle of the night? why not wait for the morning?

 

[AtticusFitz]

Who referred to the term “large amounts of cash”
I never saw that term specifically.. just that there was cash in the apartment
“Large” amounts to JDT and family could be $100... whereas to my family, that’s not considered a large amount.
Sooooo


Eta: what is considered a large amount really? $1000? More?
If she had over $1000 sitting in her apartment.. HOW.
My first guess would be something drug related.

Yes, let's kick this question over the VI @cedgison as JDT has the cash and so could let us know precisely how much was there as it would help put this issue in perspective. Thank you.

 

[AtticusFitz]

This continues to be misquoted so just clarifying here, Danni was 17 when she was living in KS and met TT. They moved to Mobile after she got pregnant, which was when she was 20.

Correct. But to add to this another question about the situation. TT was married in KS and supposedly just got divorced. Can the VI @cedgison confirm this timing please. My recollection is that the divorce issue was confirmed last week but the initial date of the marriage seemed to be when TT was 16 or so?

 

[AtticusFitz]

Apologies. I must have missed the reason that Danni is connected with a really bad place - the Buddha place.

I don't think we know other than speculation that the Buddha place is near a housing project. Someone had tossed out that perhaps DNV was heading to the housing project or perhaps was even taken there by Car 3. Bottom line is we have no idea.

 

[sandy11382]

After reading through all the threads it is my takeaway that LE knows exactly who was on the footage from the Shell station. They believe these people/ this person to be responsible for her disappearance. They do not have enough evidence plus the lack of a body to charge them/her/him. So they are working behind the scenes probably surveilling these suspect/s. Gathering any information that could lead to an arrest. MOO

I don't really know what is there to gain by not releasing the footage. Obviously the person in car three now knows the footage exists, the person knows he/she has been caught on tape, so I would assume he would be extra careful and aware that he might be part of the investigation and possibly under surveillance. It's enough that the person knows about the footage - reason enough for him / her to be careful and not make any mistakes. I mean, the person was there, he knows he's on camera and he knows he's on the suspect list, so why not reveal the footage to the public?

After all this time I don't even think it would be beneficial to release it, it may have helped in the beginning but by now I doubt it.

 

[AtticusFitz]

"Some people have been cooperative...some people have been less than cooperative."

I agree that this was one of the more interesting quotes from the PC. Just look at what we have experienced on this thread with getting even basic information about the missing victim confirmed by the Mobile 'family'. I can only imagine what MPD has had to deal with in terms of draining the swamp of any and all pertinent information about DNV and family.

 

[whatinthekentuckyhell]

This continues to be misquoted so just clarifying here, Danni was 17 when she was living in KS and met TT. They moved to Mobile after she got pregnant, which was when she was 20.

She previously lived in NC where TT was stationed with the army too.. I believe in 2013. Before they moved to Mobile.

 

[whatinthekentuckyhell]

Correct. But to add to this another question about the situation. TT was married in KS and supposedly just got divorced. Can the VI @cedgison confirm this timing please. My recollection is that the divorce issue was confirmed last week but the initial date of the marriage seemed to be when TT was 16 or so?

Maybe @Alethea can look up records??

 

[AtticusFitz]

I don't really know what is there to gain by not releasing the footage.

After all this time I don't even think it would be beneficial to release it, it may have helped in the beginning but by now I doubt it.

I agree. There must be some reason MPD is not doing the typical missing person routine on this case. I think though I was curious how many people were involved and if DNV were physically ok as I was concerned. I also wondered if violence were involved as we have seen so many violent carjacking cases in Mobile just while watching this case.

 

[insearchoflight]

I don't really know what is there to gain by not releasing the footage. Obviously the person in car three now knows the footage exists, the person knows he/she has been caught on tape, so I would assume he would be extra careful and aware that he might be part of the investigation and possibly under surveillance. It's enough that the person knows about the footage - reason enough for him / her to be careful and not make any mistakes. I mean, the person was there, he knows he's on camera and he knows he's on the suspect list, so why not reveal the footage to the public?

After all this time I don't even think it would be beneficial to release it, it may have helped in the beginning but by now I doubt it.

I think you answered your own question there. Why not release it? Because there is nothing to gain by releasing it.

There is more to gain by not releasing it. If they know exactly who it is then no reason to release it. Even though suspects know the footage exists, having it non public does take a bit of the heat off.

 

[SuziQ]

Then why not add the $5000 or what is left to the crimestoppers reward with MPD? Posters and billboards aren't going to use the money and frankly 3 months in probably won't do much good either. The optics of the family holding the money frankly aren't the best either.

I hope the money isn't going to the psychic.

Mobile family...I'm begging you. Do not go down this road.

 

[SuziQ]

Yes, let's kick this question over the VI @cedgison as JDT has the cash and so could let us know precisely how much was there as it would help put this issue in perspective. Thank you.

Exactly. A person with A lot of assets, does not voluntarily leave that behind.

 

[cedgison]

I hope the money isn't going to the psychic.

Mobile family...I'm begging you. Do not go down this road.

It isn’t.

 

[Cmpeezy251]

I don't think we know other than speculation that the Buddha place is near a housing project. Someone had tossed out that perhaps DNV was heading to the housing project or perhaps was even taken there by Car 3. Bottom line is we have no idea.

Well when I was talking about the Buddha place being in a rough part of town I was thinking more that something could’ve happened while driving there.

The housing project orange grove was listed in the hot spots...it’s a little further away. However I do think there is another housing project not far from the Papa Buddha place... I just can’t imagine she’d go to any housing project here in town all alone that late... That’d be a very dangerous idea.

 

[FrostykinHopkins]

Not that I’m aware of.

ETA: Does JV have one I don’t know about?

I only asked because you posted this on thread 3, post #552:

"Two PIs have been brought on; one I know is pro bono at this point but I’m not sure about the other (this is not a competency issue; two members of JDTs team were each speaking to a different one at the same time as the other. Ut he more eyes on it, the better, at this point.). Again, one of the well-known national search organizations is on standby awaiting LE approval."

I think we all truly appreciate your willingness to participate as a VI, but I hope you can appreciate our continual confusion of information when it keeps changing.

 

[AtticusFitz]

Well when I was talking about the Buddha place being in a rough part of town I was thinking more that something could’ve happened while driving there.

The housing project orange grove was listed in the hot spots...it’s a little further away. However I do think there is another housing project not far from the Papa Buddha place... I just can’t imagine she’d go to any housing project here in town all alone that late... That’d be a very dangerous idea.

I'm not local but I wonder if in the event that someone abducted DNV then maybe stashing her in one of these projects might be a good idea if they were 'no go' areas by both locals and police? Many cities have locations that the police stay away from and I wonder if either of these places might be in that category with locals? I also wonder if perhaps TT might have been crashing in one of these places or DNV might have been going to visit him or a friend? I'm clearly grasping at straws but I can see reasons for someone being there even if the area is not safe. Also if you wanted to buy drugs would you call your dealer and have them bring the stuff to you or would you head to the dealer that might be located in this area.

Also, the history of Papa Buddha bar is interesting (posted articles earlier in thread). The founder died a couple of years ago and the place was subject to at least a couple of gampling and drug raids over the years. It seems like underground gambling was something MPD had been trying to stamp out as far back as 2006 but I wonder if its made a comeback or if the bar was still a consistent place to get drugs even today?

 

[otto]

Is it possible she was visiting someone that lived in that project? Maybe a friend? Maybe TT was crashing there? Was she heading there after the Shell station? Or, was that where the as yet unidentified Car 3 people might have taken her? Just a few ideas. I agree with you. I'm still working on finishing the list but all my posts on that topic were deleted which I Don't get as the VI was the person that brought up the charts etc. Once I finish the rest of the hot spots I will report.

Thanks. It sounds like the Bad Buddha place is just a random bad place and that Danni's association with this place, as opposed to a local university, is equal. They are simply two places in Mobile.

 

[Alethea]

Maybe @Alethea can look up records??

TT is married to a woman from out of state whose name has never surfaced so I'm not going to even use initials. There was a divorce proceeding in 2015 but it was cancelled.

 

[otto]

Who referred to the term “large amounts of cash”
I never saw that term specifically.. just that there was cash in the apartment
“Large” amounts to JDT and family could be $100... whereas to my family, that’s not considered a large amount.
Sooooo

Eta: what is considered a large amount really? $1000? More?
If she had over $1000 sitting in her apartment.. HOW.
My first guess would be something drug related.

She worked in the restaurant industry, and my understanding is that tips are distributed in cash. Servers don't want to declare the income, so don't they keep the cash under the mattress? She could have had a lot (several thousands) of tip money at her apartment. The amount really depends on the quality of the places she worked, and whether 10 or 20% is a standard tip in Mobile.

 

[Alethea]

Thanks. It sounds like the Bad Buddha place is just a random bad place and that Danni's association with this place, as opposed to a local university, is equal. They are simply two places in Mobile.

I think this map is good as a map of random places in Mobile and that's it. Finding out whether all of these popular places have surveillance tape may have been a better exercise than dreams and talking to the presumed-dead.