AL AL - Danniella Vian, 24, Mobile, 17 Jul 2018 #4

[otto]

If she wanted to leave voluntarily she could do that. It would have been much easier if she just told JDT "hey I'm just leaving for the weekend / for a few days, to visit friends / family / whatever, don't worry everything's ok I'll be back soon" and just leave and not come back . I doubt anybody would have question her, and it would have given her more time to go off the grid and make sure nobody will be looking for her at least for a few days. And if she wanted to get away why go in the middle of the night? why not wait for the morning?

I agree that if she decided to leave Mobile, there's no reason that she could not pack up her stuff, quit her jobs and leave. Voluntary disappearance seems very unlikely.

 

[otto]

I don't really know what is there to gain by not releasing the footage. Obviously the person in car three now knows the footage exists, the person knows he/she has been caught on tape, so I would assume he would be extra careful and aware that he might be part of the investigation and possibly under surveillance. It's enough that the person knows about the footage - reason enough for him / her to be careful and not make any mistakes. I mean, the person was there, he knows he's on camera and he knows he's on the suspect list, so why not reveal the footage to the public?

After all this time I don't even think it would be beneficial to release it, it may have helped in the beginning but by now I doubt it.

I think police have good reason to be concerned about vigilante sleuthers who view poor quality video or images, use low quality graphic editing tools, and then target real people based on what they imagine they see. If police can identify the make and model of car 3, and if they need help from the public to identify the owner of that car, they will release the information. Until then, I think that withholding the CCTV footage is to protect the public.

 

[otto]

She previously lived in NC where TT was stationed with the army too.. I believe in 2013. Before they moved to Mobile.

Thanks - going from memory, but I thought that Danni was pregnant when she moved with TT's family from NC to Mobile in 2011. She was 17 years old at the time, and her daughter was born in 2013. I'm relying on comments in thread #1 for this information, so either there were two pregnancies, or someone has arithmetic issues.

Either way, her daughter was born in 2013. Since it is not normal to drug test birthing women, someone must have reported the suspicion of drug use during childbirth - and the only reason for that is to take the child away from her. There were custody issues again in March 2015, and, based on her June 17 goals list, serious custody issues were on the horizon at the time of her disappearance.

 

[otto]

I hope the money isn't going to the psychic.

Mobile family...I'm begging you. Do not go down this road.

There are simply too many stories from families of missing persons where they have been victimized by con artist clairvoyants and psychics. Those who claim to speak to the dead are usually the first predators to emerge from the shadows to contact the families of missing persons. They prey on hope, promise to erase the suffering, and stuff their pockets while wearing a mask of empathy.

 

[otto]

Well when I was talking about the Buddha place being in a rough part of town I was thinking more that something could’ve happened while driving there.

The housing project orange grove was listed in the hot spots...it’s a little further away. However I do think there is another housing project not far from the Papa Buddha place... I just can’t imagine she’d go to any housing project here in town all alone that late... That’d be a very dangerous idea.

First she's buying drugs with DW at the Shell station, then she's alone with the drug dealers for 15 minutes at the Shell station, then she's driving to a "bad place" to buy drugs - and then what? It seems that the drug-buy theory is so farfetched that we have to really stretch the imagination to get her to a place where her disappearance is a result of a mad-drug-search - while her friends waited patiently at Ollies.

 

[Chelly]

The one thing that keeps me from believing she possibly left voluntarily is the money that was found in her apartment. She wouldn’t leave that large amount of cash she would need it to survive it seems.

How many dollars was that large amount of cash she left behind in her apartment?

 

[otto]

I think this map is good as a map of random places in Mobile and that's it. Finding out whether all of these popular places have surveillance tape may have been a better exercise than dreams and talking to the presumed-dead.

Indeed. The locations seem to be based on the premise that if something bad happened to Danni, she must have been in a dangerous place.

According to the facts, Danniella was last seen Tuesday, July 17, 2018 at the Shell station in the 3500 block of Government Blvd. at 11:24PM. She was occupying a 2014 Chevrolet Cruz with a Pearl Motors paper tag.

 

[AtticusFitz]

TT is married to a woman from out of state whose name has never surfaced so I'm not going to even use initials. There was a divorce proceeding in 2015 but it was cancelled.

The mother of the person married to TT has been active on social media with this case so its not at all hard to get the details if anyone is interested. VI said last week or week before that the divorce had supposedly been finalized.

 

[AtticusFitz]

How many dollars was that large amount of cash she left behind in her apartment?

@cedgison VI Would it be possible to answer this question please as it has been asked at least 5 times. Thank you.

 

[AtticusFitz]

I finished the hot spots list. Also, does anyone local know the name of the auto repair shop that supposedly is located next to Pearl Motors (shared driveway of some sort was mentioned)? I am unable to drill down on google maps to figure it out. Pearl said in one of its online review comments that it doesn't do any repairs or mechanical work at its location but sends everything to repair shot nearby. One of the comments stated repair shop is literally right behind Pearl Motors. Thanks

 

[AtticusFitz]

It isn’t.

@cedgison But I thought you said yesterday that you all had been in contact with the person. All my posts on this topic have been deleted due to TOS issues unfortunately. But it sounded like the use of this person was something that was being taken seriously and they had suggested the water search location near DW house and Dog River. Please confirm, thank you.

PS. If you could confirm basic dates for DNV departure from KS, NC and arrival to Mobile that would be appreciated as I think we now have 3 different sets of dates and are very confused. Can you also confirm that CT and recently adopted baby are only offspring of DNV? People are confused now that there might have been another earlier baby before recently adopted baby.

 

[Alethea]

Indeed. The locations seem to be based on the premise that if something bad happened to Danni, she must have been in a dangerous place.

According to the facts, Danniella was last seen Tuesday, July 17, 2018 at the Shell station in the 3500 block of Government Blvd. at 11:24PM. She was occupying a 2014 Chevrolet Cruz with a Pearl Motors paper tag.

I know there's a lot of talk about DNV being seen in another place after the Shell station but this may be the last place police can corroborate her location. If someone "thinks" they saw her at another location after the Shell but there's no corroborating evidence like a video, photograph, CCTV, or reliable eyewitness testimony (ie. someone who knows her and would be sure the woman they saw was her), the police may not think it was a reliable sighting and they are back to the Shell CCTV as the last known place she was seen.

 

[otto]

@cedgison But I thought you said yesterday that you all had been in contact with the person. All my posts on this topic have been deleted due to TOS issues unfortunately. But it sounded like the use of this person was something that was being taken seriously and they had suggested the water search location near DW house and Dog River. Please confirm, thank you.

PS. If you could confirm basic dates for DNV departure from KS, NC and arrival to Mobile that would be appreciated as I think we now have 3 different sets of dates and are very confused. Can you also confirm that CT and recently adopted baby are only offspring of DNV? People are confused now that there might have been another earlier baby before recently adopted baby.

If pregnant at age 17 and moving with TT's family to Mobile in 2011 is true, perhaps there was a miscarriage rather than a live birth.

 

[otto]

I know there's a lot of talk about DNV being seen in another place after the Shell station but this may be the last place police can corroborate her location. If someone "thinks" they saw her at another location after the Shell but there's no corroborating evidence like a video, photograph, CCTV, or reliable eyewitness testimony (ie. someone who knows her and would be sure the woman they saw was her), the police may not think it was a reliable sighting and they are back to the Shell CCTV as the last known place she was seen.

It is so common for people to report a sighting of a missing person in areas far from the "last seen" location, and so rare that it is authentic, that police really do have to rely on what they know to be true.

Danni was at the Shell station at 11:24, her GPS stopped transmitting at that time, and she vanished. There is no credible information about where she and her car are today.

I suspect that if DW released information about where they were going that night, all the drug speculation would be easily dismissed. That is, they were at the Shell station because Danni forgot her phone. At the moment that she was going to retrieve her phone with DW, something happened to her.

It seems that because TT had drug convictions, Danni is painted with the same brush and is guilty by association.

 

[whatinthekentuckyhell]

If pregnant at age 17 and moving with TT's family to Mobile in 2011 is true, perhaps there was a miscarriage rather than a live birth.

Where did we get the moving to mobile date in 2011?
I read on social media, she moved to NC with TT in 2012.
And then they moved to mobile in 2013.

Based on social media, it looks like TT was actively married in 2012?

 

[otto]

Where did we get the moving to mobile date in 2011?
I read on social media, she moved to NC with TT in 2012.
And then they moved to mobile in 2013.

Based on social media, it looks like TT was actively married in 2012?

I definitely got the information from the jumbled up information on this website. It's highly likely that it is incorrect.

 

[whatinthekentuckyhell]

I definitely got the information from the jumbled up information on this website.

LOL my brain is mush at this point

 

[cluciano63]

Cash tips are the main source of income for most servers. No easier to save than regular paychecks, as one must pay rent, food, etc from tips.

 

[whatinthekentuckyhell]

Cash tips are the main source of income for most servers. No easier to save than regular paychecks, as one must pay rent, food, etc from tips.

Exactly. I don’t think she was making enough to pay all of her bills, apparently take care of TT, and stash some thousands under her mattress... lol

 

[MimosaMornings]

How many different places did DNV live?
NM to KS to NC to AL?

A timeline would be helpful.

I’m still trying to process that TT was living with DNV. It was described as “her” apartment not “theirs”. When did that occur? I guess if he totaled her car then they shared a vehicle?

Was anyone injured in the accident - perhaps TT suffered a head injury?