Found Deceased AL - Kamille "Cupcake" McKinney, 3, kidnapped from birthday party, Birmingham, 12 Oct 2019 #4

[MFH]

Also IMO,

I get the feeling the area searched was a wooded/secluded area considering the location never leaked out to the public today.

If you continue east out old Springville road and past Clay, there are many larger wooded areas. I wonder if they are going to continue to search in areas close to where PS lives until Cupcake is found. That’s a lot of area to search if he has ever been known to travel that way.

 

[Aubie007]

Respectfully snipped by me to stare at and absorb / BBM / condensed Moo

“Route most likely for PS to travel home from Tom Brown Village:

59 to Roebuck Parkway, passing Huffman High School

-straight shot to center point.


Possible he dropped her off somewhere on his way home MOO”

@SouthAussie do you please have your marker handy? Can someone please screenshot that and mark in red for reference? Tia. Thanks again @Aubie007

Hope i did this right. Bottom left is Tom Brown village. Green marks I-59, Blue Marks Roebuck parkway. There is a red pin where I believe they searched today (of course MOO). Center point is marked in the top right, I hope you can see it.

 

[MsBetsy]

Go to about the :58 mark or so. Stoney Sharp is the reporter on scene who talked to the family member who lives there and learned that the child was KM's cousin.

I didn't even notice whoever it was in the beginning said, "friend." Like we needed any more confusion! MOO

Which family member lives there? Is it Cupcakes aunt?

 

[n4k]

Also IMO,

I get the feeling the area searched was a wooded/secluded area considering the location never leaked out to the public today.

If you continue east out old Springville road and past Clay, there are many larger wooded areas. I wonder if they are going to continue to search in areas close to where PS lives until Cupcake is found. That’s a lot of area to search if he has ever been known to travel that way.

There is a park right near Springville Road and Huffman Road, Eldorado Park. That's my guess. I SERIOUSLY doubt they were out in Clay.

 

[MsBetsy]

Hope i did this right. Bottom left is Tom Brown village. Green marks I-59, Blue Marks Roebuck parkway. There is a red pin where I believe they searched today (of course MOO). Center point is marked in the top right, I hope you can see it.

Which is the area from where she was abducted? Is Tom Brown Village where the suspect who was arrested lives? Or is that the public housing community?

Edited: I think I read that Tom Brown Village is where she was abducted. Still not sure of the name of the apartments where the suspect lives. I can't get all the names straight.

 

[margarita25]

Also IMO,

I get the feeling the area searched was a wooded/secluded area considering the location never leaked out to the public today.

If you continue east out old Springville road and past Clay, there are many larger wooded areas. I wonder if they are going to continue to search in areas close to where PS lives until Cupcake is found. That’s a lot of area to search if he has ever been known to travel that way.

RSBM / Marking:

“If you continue east out old Springville road and past Clay, there are many larger wooded areas.”

There is a park right near Springville Road and Huffman Road, Eldorado Park. That's my guess. I SERIOUSLY doubt they were out in Clay.

Marking:

“There is a park right near Springville Road and Huffman Road, Eldorado Park.”

Hope i did this right. Bottom left is Tom Brown village. Green marks I-59, Blue Marks Roebuck parkway. There is a red pin where I believe they searched today (of course MOO). Center point is marked in the top right, I hope you can see it.

Marking

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Marking the post in front of me:

Yes, Google gives me the same result.

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Thanks CTGrammy for your arial thumbnail of the Tom Brown Village.

I am pretty sure this here that I have zoomed in on is the area the children were playing. The camera from the house would have been the back left. I even noticed the door there that is swung open. Could this be the infamous "cousin's" door and the kids were playing just outside the door?

Google Maps

Another good view straight down on it, but up close. Google Maps

Marking map and street view map

We do know where the camera was/is located. Right here by this truck. Google Maps The only house right next to where the kids were playing.

Marking Map

Yes, I have been wondering about which video camera took that video.
The driveway gate of the green house would not be in the video if the video came from the camera on the back corner of the green house. imo But the driveway gate IS in the footage.

But, looky here ... right across the road from the green house is a camera that would also look right in that direction. I think it is possible the video may be from that camera. And the video footage is very zoomed in, hence its ultra grainy appearance.

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Swivel the pic in this link, you can see the camera is pointing right down the driveway of its own location, as well as the driveway of the green house. imo
Google Maps

Marking map

 

[SouthAussie]

Hope i did this right. Bottom left is Tom Brown village. Green marks I-59, Blue Marks Roebuck parkway. There is a red pin where I believe they searched today (of course MOO). Center point is marked in the top right, I hope you can see it.

Yes, Google gives me the same result.

 

[n4k]

Deleted d/t lack of source.

 

[MFH]

There is a park right near Springville Road and Huffman Road, Eldorado Park. That's my guess. I SERIOUSLY doubt they were out in Clay.

Oh I did not mean to give the impression that the search was in Clay. Just that there is a lot of wooded area in that direction.

 

[peppertheyorkiepoo]

Posting this here for the sleuthers...someone else made this connection- design on shirt same as the one POI was wearing. That is the video of the original suspect at the gas station, and the second is the video of where the man is walking by where the girls are at playing and she walks off with him. What is circled is the design on his shirt is the exact same in both pictures.

This POI needs to ask police if can move into the jail because KM daddy just my kill him.

 

[PommyMommy]

Which family member lives there? Is it Cupcakes aunt?

He didn't specify. An aunt would make sense though if the toddler is KM's cousin. MOO

 

[oviedo]

carol robinson on Twitter
A Sunday-afternoon grid search for Kamille "Cupcake" McKinney turned up no sign of the missing girl

7:10 PM - 20 Oct 2019

I’m so sad ...

 

[MsMarple]

Go to about the :58 mark or so. Stoney Sharp is the reporter on scene who talked to the family member who lives there and learned that the child was KM's cousin.

I didn't even notice whoever it was in the beginning said, "friend." Like we needed any more confusion! MOO

Oops! Speaking of retracting... Yes, I checked and you're absolutely right. The reporter says:

"One of Kamille's family members lives in a unit a few yards away. She says the new security video shows Kamille playing with a little cousin just before Kamille was abducted."

QED. So the other child definitely was Cupcake's cousin. Thank you for catching my error - and that makes my point about WS. We can handle our own sleuthing without resorting to rumors, lol! I've corrected it in my post.

 

[PommyMommy]

There is a park right near Springville Road and Huffman Road, Eldorado Park. That's my guess. I SERIOUSLY doubt they were out in Clay.

I think Eldorado Park is where the volunteer search teams have been meeting. I'll go back and check that. MOO

ETA: Please disregard. It was Kelly Ingram Park where the searchers were meeting.

 

[Aubie007]

There is a park right near Springville Road and Huffman Road, Eldorado Park. That's my guess. I SERIOUSLY doubt they were out in Clay.

PD said north of springville rd correct? There is a body of water near there, but it’s in the middle of a very nice neighborhood.

 

[T4Tide]

North of Ttown but yes... general area.

 

[n4k]

PD said north of springville rd correct? There is a body of water near there, but it’s in the middle of a very nice neighborhood.

I hate quoting AL.COM because while MSM, they are not exactly reputable. Anyhow, here it is.

Sunday grid search for Kamille “Cupcake” McKinney turns up no sign of the missing 3-year-old girl
"The area was just north of Springville Road near Huffman Road."

 

[MsBetsy]

Okay, I just read where someone who sounded like they are familiar with rules said I could phrase it this way, so here goes. RUMOR has it that mom and dad just went to court in a custody battle the week before cc went missing, and dad lost. Same RUMOR mill says mom, cc, and brother had moved in with "cousin" in the past two weeks at TBV. On the "cousin" thing, I want to add something I've been thinking. It is not unusual in the AA culture to refer to friends as cousins, so this person doesn't have to be a blood relative.

I think you need to provide a link with the source for wherever the information is from.

 

[n4k]

North of Ttown but yes... general area.

Ah, we may be neighbors. I'm on the JC/TC line.

 

[n4k]

I think you need to provide a link with the source for wherever the information is from.

Then I will delete it, MsBetsy, because I couldn't find it if I wanted to. I was basing it being okay off an earlier post. Deleting now. Thanks!