Found Deceased AL - Kamille "Cupcake" McKinney, 3, kidnapped from party, Birmingham, 12 Oct 2019 *Arrests* #7

[CSIDreamer]

I didn’t what you brought up before, what did you say about it?

Just asked if guy in video appeared to be 6'8". I was told I was all wrong, he was 6' 1" lol. Then I lost my links, i was so tired ha ha.

 

[Aubie007]

Just asked if guy in video appeared to be 6'8". I was told I was all wrong, he was 6' 1" lol. Then I lost my links, i was so tired ha ha.

Appears you were right. How y’all do you think the 1st person is? They seem close in height to me, based on where they cross on the numbers in the time stamp entering the picture.

 

[MsBetsy]

Appears you were right. How y’all do you think the 1st person is? They seem close in height to me, based on where they cross on the numbers in the time stamp entering the picture.

I'm not sure if they ever found the other person. He may have just been someone who walked by right before the suspect came along.

Imo

 

[Aubie007]

I'm not sure if they ever found the other person. He may have just been someone who walked by right before the suspect came along.

Imo

To my knowledge they didn’t. I’m just curious the groups opinion on how tall person #1 is with 6’8 as the reference for person #2. To my untrained eye, they seem pretty close in height.

 

[MsBetsy]

To my knowledge they didn’t. I’m just curious the groups opinion on how tall person #1 is with 6’8 as the reference for person #2. To my untrained eye, they seem pretty close in height.

Yeah, I don't think that height is correct.

 

[Aubie007]

Yeah, I don't think that height is correct.

That was going to be my next point. 1) either the height is a typo. 2) there are 2 people (assumed to be unaffiliated with each other) in the 95th percentile in height walking by the same camera, within 20 seconds of each other...I’d love to see the probability of that. 3) it’s not a typo and based on my #2 likelihood, neither are 6’8”.

 

[peppertheyorkiepoo]

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Sorry having trouble with this. In today's society cameras are everywhere. At a bank, I am sure there are cameras. You are only as safe as the person watching the camra.

 

[Steelslady]

I have not commented about how Cupcake was killed...been having panic attacks since finding out. My mom died from that...I made the mistake of researching it after her death (I needed to know what she went through & if I could have saved her). I may not be able to comment or read anymore about what happened to this lil baby doll, but want everyone to know I will be here following along & I am thankful to all of you for keeping the updates pouring in...My heart is with Cupcake & her family...
May these ***’s get everything that is coming to them & then some
MOO

I am so sorry. Panic attacks are awful and unpredictable. Sometimes you know what triggered it, other times, minding your own business, in a good mood, and then BAM, on comes an attack.

 

[Steelslady]

I know we are all (justifiably) horrified by what happened to Cupcake, but it seems to me we should wait until we know more about the evidence before apportioning blame between the perpetrators. I hope they have the right people and wholeheartedly want to see justice done for Cupcake and her family, but we really know very little at this point about DB’s role in this crime.

I agree. I just feel like there's more to this than just these two being involved. We're missing some very important details. I am sitting on my hands. I am NOT saying that they weren't involved, but I don't think they're the only ones.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Crime Stoppers of Metro Alabama

 

[SouthAussie]

Yeah, I don't think that height is correct.

I don't think the 6'8" height is correct either. His mugshot taken on 10/23/19 at 2am says 6'1".



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[SouthAussie]

Sorry having trouble with this. In today's society cameras are everywhere. At a bank, I am sure there are cameras. You are only as safe as the person watching the camra.

The Alabama Crime Stoppers site for the metro area says the reward is handed over in a 'private manner' ... does not mention at a bank.
The previous cash reward information posted - though very similar - was from the Louisiana Crime Stoppers site.


BBM
Crime Stoppers of Metro Alabama is funded by private donations and fund raising. The reward money paid out by the program is from the fund raising and donations from concerned citizens and businesses.

A community board of directors, made up of persons from throughout the area, meets on a monthly basis. Rewards are then distributed in a private manner to the callers. Callers are eligible for rewards up to $5,000, but, despite this, many callers choose not to collect their rewards.

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[This guy you know]

I didn’t what you brought up before, what did you say about it?

There’s no way he’s 6’-8” and neither of the people in video are even close to that height.

PS original bolo pic from the CS put him ~5-10 to 6’. Turns out he’s 6-1”

Suspect 2 in cctv video is wearing fitted jeans which are hanging down lowering crotch height. The toddlers head appears to meet right at crotch height in the video ~32-36” average for a 3yo. That puts the suspect right around 6’.

 

[MummyRatcliffe]

The Alabama Crime Stoppers site for the metro area says the reward is handed over in a 'private manner' ... does not mention at a bank.
The previous cash reward information posted - though very similar - was from the Louisiana Crime Stoppers site.


BBM
Crime Stoppers of Metro Alabama is funded by private donations and fund raising. The reward money paid out by the program is from the fund raising and donations from concerned citizens and businesses.

A community board of directors, made up of persons from throughout the area, meets on a monthly basis. Rewards are then distributed in a private manner to the callers. Callers are eligible for rewards up to $5,000, but, despite this, many callers choose not to collect their rewards.

Crime Stoppers of Metro Alabama

Bolded and underlined by me. How wholesome is that sentence..... they call in the tips and choose not to claim the rewards, showing they care only about helping to solve the case, not the money. These are the types of people we need more of MOO

 

[peppertheyorkiepoo]

Interesting appeal here and sorry these monsters didn't take Birmingham Attorney up on his offer. He would not be representing them at trial -- just to receive safe delivery of KM Cupcake. There were so many prayers for this child.

Birmingham attorney Eric Guster, of the Guster Law Firm, took to Facebook Live Tuesday morning October 15 in an effort to bring Kamille home.

In the video, which has been shared over 1,000 times, Guster offers his services to Kamille’s abuctor(s) for $1, in exchange for the child’s safe return.

“If you reach out to me…you bring me this child, pay me a dollar, I’m your lawyer at that point. I can’t tell people who you are…I won’t even look at your face. I just want this baby back,” Guster says.

Birmingham attorney offers to represent Kamille “Cupcake” McKinney’s abductors for $1

Sad to say, she was not alive when Mr. Guster made that plea. Just a few minutes changed so many lives.

 

[peppertheyorkiepoo]

One little girl has brought so many of us together. I am so broken hearted about this little one. I don't see a reason for her murder. If they had let her go, she was to young to identify them. I wish I lived closer so I could attend the trials. I feel like there is more to this than just two people out trolling for a little girl.

 

[Holokitty]

I’m new here and have tried to read each and every comment. Of course I’ve missed some here and there so sorry if this has been mentioned before.

When I read Brown’s statement when she was arrested as a teen, the thought of manipulation was overwhelming. She had said she was abused and was treated in a mental facility (if I remember correctly) I’m wondering in her case if trauma at a young age by her mother could have triggered (possibly) sociopathic tendencies. Or something where she disassociated w reality.
I find her actions and her pleas to be polar opposites. If she had any remorse I believe she would have tried paying fines, went to counseling, had her children in counseling, took parenting classes, etc. IMO she tried to manipulate the judge for her own gain. There were never any good intentions for change or a better life for her children. Again this is all my personal opinion.

 

[peppertheyorkiepoo]

I’m new here and have tried to read each and every comment. Of course I’ve missed some here and there so sorry if this has been mentioned before.

When I read Brown’s statement when she was arrested as a teen, the thought of manipulation was overwhelming. She had said she was abused and was treated in a mental facility (if I remember correctly) I’m wondering in her case if trauma at a young age by her mother could have triggered (possibly) sociopathic tendencies. Or something where she disassociated w reality.
I find her actions and her pleas to be polar opposites. If she had any remorse I believe she would have tried paying fines, went to counseling, had her children in counseling, took parenting classes, etc. IMO she tried to manipulate the judge for her own gain. There were never any good intentions for change or a better life for her children. Again this is all my personal opinion.

IMO she never cared for her children. I think it was more kids, more government money. Her children are so much better off without her.

 

[MsBetsy]

I’m new here and have tried to read each and every comment. Of course I’ve missed some here and there so sorry if this has been mentioned before.

When I read Brown’s statement when she was arrested as a teen, the thought of manipulation was overwhelming. She had said she was abused and was treated in a mental facility (if I remember correctly) I’m wondering in her case if trauma at a young age by her mother could have triggered (possibly) sociopathic tendencies. Or something where she disassociated w reality.
I find her actions and her pleas to be polar opposites. If she had any remorse I believe she would have tried paying fines, went to counseling, had her children in counseling, took parenting classes, etc. IMO she tried to manipulate the judge for her own gain. There were never any good intentions for change or a better life for her children. Again this is all my personal opinion.

Hi Holokitty and Welcome to Websleuths!

Good post. I do agree that she likely had issues and people like this know how to manipulate the system.
Hopefully this will be the end of that. She won't be able to get herself out of this one!

Imo

 

[MimosaMornings]

I’m guesssing the 911 call hasn’t been released.