LolaMoon08
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Hey, I'm not mad at you! Really! Just stating my take on things...and yes, angry, but angry at the Sheriff & DA & especially the shooter, but not at you.
That judge is an idiot. Seriously. 'Stand your ground' laws do not authorize you to chase someone down and murder them. That is not defending yourself. That is forcing a confrontation. Until these past few years, all precedents point to such an action as being the root cause of any injuries or deaths, not the interceding events that were precipitated by the contact. Just like Felony Murder. Of course, it doesn't surprise me that such a ruling would come out of the legal cesspool known as Florida, where due process no longer exists in any rational form. ("oh, you saved the courts time and killed one of them there criminals? Good on you!")
Regardless of the criminal acts of the idiot teens, they were not threatening those men, were no longer engaged in criminal activity at the time of contact, did not engage with the men, and were on public land when contact was made. The men had the ability to call the authorities, observe & wait. Instead they ran off half-cocked with lethal weapons, tried to be action heroes, and then wondered why someone got hurt.
So yes, even going by the strange wording of 'stand your ground', it would still be an illegal & irresponsible act regardless of who was shot. And regardless, it should be up to a jury to decide whether these 'stand your ground' laws cover incidents with contradictory testimony/evidence. And one still may - if enough noise is made, like in Trayvon's case. As many of these cases need to be taken to the courts by the DAs as possible, so that one of them can reach a high enough level for long established precedent to be reaffirmed.
I do have to ask why you feel it necessary to ask me about age & race. Really...I don't want to take offense, but the wording there seems to be making implications about my motives that are...well, not very nice...
All JMO and not intended to be taken personally.
My post wasn't intended for just one person so I am sorry you took offense? It was a question for everyone. It's a legitimate question? If one of the boys were shot would it be different? Or if Summer wasn't pretty? Young? If she was of a different race?
I think my curiosity comes from paying attention to Summer and Trayvon's cases. There are clear differences, but I think it's really interesting to look at them side by side because of those differences. It's really amazing to see. Very eye opening.
MOO