Alec Baldwin fired prop gun, killing 1 on movie set, Oct 2021 #3

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Unsecured ammo, failed safety checks, and cut corners: What went wrong on the set of 'Rust'

The script supervisor, on the phone with a 911 dispatcher, cursed out the assistant director.

"This 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬," she said. "He's supposed to check the guns. He's responsible for what happened."
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1.) Just before filming a scene with a gun, the armorer brings the gun to the first assistant director to demonstrate that it's a "cold gun" - meaning it does not contain live ammunition.

2.) The first assistant director then visually inspects the weapon, agrees that it's a cold gun, and announces "cold gun on set," repeating it over the radio for crew members out of earshot. (A lawyer representing Halls told Fox News her client was "not responsible" for checking the gun).

3.) Importantly, whenever the gun is aimed into a camera lens, or near a member of the cast or crew, any person has the right to request that they also be shown the gun is cold, according to Zanoff.
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Halls told deputies his normal firearms-handling practice was to "check the barrel for obstructions, most of the time there's no live fire, [Gutierrez-Reed] opens the hatch and spins the drum, and I say 'cold gun on set.'"

But Zanoff told Insider that Halls and Gutierrez-Reed's descriptions of their actions when they checked the gun before the scene appear to violate industry standards.

First responders airlifted Hutchins to an Albuquerque hospital, where she was pronounced dead. Baldwin, who was in shock and didn't yet know he had just killed a woman, was also taken to hospital.

"In all my years, I've never been handed a hot gun," he kept repeating.

According to Tom Nunan, a lecturer at UCLA's School of Theater, Film and Television and an executive producer of the Oscar-winning film "Crash," Gutierrez-Reed was impossibly young and inexperienced for the job. The position of armorer is normally reserved for Hollywood veterans with previous military or police experience, he said.

Despite being both a Western and an action movie, "Rust" was being produced on a budget of just $6-7 million.

"What I suspect is that this movie was profoundly under-budgeted, meaning people were getting hired at a lower cost because they just didn't have enough money to make this movie look handsome and be what it wanted to be," he said. "As a result, you hire crew that are less experienced, and probably doing not just their job, but two or three jobs at a time."
 
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Okay but her attorney just said that she loaded 6 dummies into the gun.


He reiterated the point later on when pressed about whether Gutierrez “re-checked” the gun.

“She did spin the cylinder; she showed Mr. Halls each of the rounds,” Bowles said. “There were six dummy rounds that she had loaded into that firearm that she believed had been dummy rounds. She did spin it; she did check it.”

Halls eventually gave the gun to Baldwin.


'Rust' Armorer's Lawyers Say 'Disgruntled' Person May Have Tried to 'Sabotage' Alec Baldwin Film

I'm kind of focused on the Rittenhouse deal, so haven't been keeping up on this situation with all the updates, but, my question is, have they clarified at any time that HGR did another check on the weapon/ammo AFTER it was removed from the safe by the props manager and brought to her after lunch?
 
Putting a live round in the box of dummies is a somewhat uncertain way of staging sabotage. For the round to be fired, first it would have to be loaded in a weapon, second, it would have to be loaded in the "next to fire" position, and third, the script would have to call for an actor to 🤬🤬🤬🤬 the weapon and pull the trigger. Multiply those probabilities and you get a pretty small number.
 
She put socks over them to prevent people from picking them up???!

“Robert Gorence, another attorney for Gutierrez-Reed, told the outlet that she loaded the guns with dummy rounds for an afternoon filming session, placed socks over them to prevent passersby from picking them up, and went off to lunch. Was there a duty to safeguard them 24/7?” Gorence said. “The answer is no, because there were no live rounds.”

“The account contradicts a Santa Fe Sheriff’s Office affidavit that said Reed told investigators the gun had been locked in a safe during a lunch break prior to the fatal shooting during a rehearsal.

But in an earlier interview, the lawyers had also said that they thought the weapon may have been sabotaged by someone else”


https://nypost.com/2021/11/03/alec-baldwins-rust-gun-left-unattended-before-halyna-hutchins-shot/
 
Putting a live round in the box of dummies is a somewhat uncertain way of staging sabotage. For the round to be fired, first it would have to be loaded in a weapon, second, it would have to be loaded in the "next to fire" position, and third, the script would have to call for an actor to 🤬🤬🤬🤬 the weapon and pull the trigger. Multiply those probabilities and you get a pretty small number.

Desperate accusation, nothing to back it up.

Throw at wall see what sticks !

Desperation because the buck stops at the Armourer and other excuses are not making her look sympathetic. Such as having 2 jobs and producers tying hands on safety.

So it has to be sabotage.

 
This just sounds like an absolute nightmare for investigators. Everyone is blaming everybody else, everybody is mad at everybody else. No rules being followed on set, many contradictory stories being told. Absolute chaos.
 
She put socks over them to prevent people from picking them up???!

“Robert Gorence, another attorney for Gutierrez-Reed, told the outlet that she loaded the guns with dummy rounds for an afternoon filming session, placed socks over them to prevent passersby from picking them up, and went off to lunch. Was there a duty to safeguard them 24/7?” Gorence said. “The answer is no, because there were no live rounds.”

“The account contradicts a Santa Fe Sheriff’s Office affidavit that said Reed told investigators the gun had been locked in a safe during a lunch break prior to the fatal shooting during a rehearsal.

But in an earlier interview, the lawyers had also said that they thought the weapon may have been sabotaged by someone else”

Alec Baldwin's 'Rust' gun left unattended before Halyna Hutchins shot

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Instead of keeping them in a safe she kept them inside socks and it was fine since blanks were in them. Passerby would see the socks and automatically know what was going on.....

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She put socks over them to prevent people from picking them up???!

“Robert Gorence, another attorney for Gutierrez-Reed, told the outlet that she loaded the guns with dummy rounds for an afternoon filming session, placed socks over them to prevent passersby from picking them up, and went off to lunch. Was there a duty to safeguard them 24/7?” Gorence said. “The answer is no, because there were no live rounds.”

“The account contradicts a Santa Fe Sheriff’s Office affidavit that said Reed told investigators the gun had been locked in a safe during a lunch break prior to the fatal shooting during a rehearsal.

But in an earlier interview, the lawyers had also said that they thought the weapon may have been sabotaged by someone else”

https://nypost.com/2021/11/03/alec-baldwins-rust-gun-left-unattended-before-halyna-hutchins-shot/
Alec Baldwin's 'Rust' gun left unattended before Halyna Hutchins shot
Sounds like HGR's lawyer is saying she lied to LE about securing the guns during the lunch break. I'm sure LE has taken note of that. JMO.
 
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"Respecting Mr. Hutchins request for privacy as the family grieves the loss of Halyna Hutchins, the firm will not be making any statements at this time," the message read.

ABs team should consider the same.

Sources familiar with the situation tell us the lawsuit will be filed on behalf of Halyna's spouse and their child, and there will be multiple defendants.”

I’m guessing the “constant contact” between AB & HH’s family (his good friends) will now stop… Guessing AB will be one of the “multiple defendants”. Imo
 
Sources familiar with the situation tell us the lawsuit will be filed on behalf of Halyna's spouse and their child, and there will be multiple defendants.”

I’m guessing the “constant contact” between AB & HH’s family (his good friends) will now stop… Guessing AB will be one of the “multiple defendants”. Imo
IMO the real battle will be fought in the civil courts. Even seasoned lawyers can't come to a consensus as to what laws anyone could be charged under.
Death on a Movie Set: Ex-Prosecutors, Attorneys React to Alec Baldwin's Shocking Prop Gun Shooting Accident

As for AB's friendship with Halyna... I'm a bit skeptical. All he's said about their friendship is that he took her and Joel Sousa to dinner the day they arrived in Albuquerque. Nothing about the families observing holidays or taking ski vacations together or other signs of close friendships. I once had dinner with Mariel Hemingway but I doubt she'd call me her good friend, lol.

And as such I doubt anyone's perceived "good friendship" will exclude them from a wrongful death lawsuit. MOO.
 
IMO the real battle will be fought in the civil courts. Even seasoned lawyers can't come to a consensus as to what laws anyone could be charged under.
Death on a Movie Set: Ex-Prosecutors, Attorneys React to Alec Baldwin's Shocking Prop Gun Shooting Accident

As for AB's friendship with Halyna... I'm a bit skeptical. All he's said about their friendship is that he took her and Joel Sousa to dinner the day they arrived in Albuquerque. Nothing about the families observing holidays or taking ski vacations together or other signs of close friendships. I once had dinner with Mariel Hemingway but I doubt she'd call me her good friend, lol.

And as such I doubt anyone's perceived "good friendship" will exclude them from a wrongful death lawsuit. MOO.

That was a dead giveaway statement in my opinion. I think he wanted that out there really quickly to portray empathy with a happy and cohesive crew. Shortly after was ‘breakfast with the father and son’ followed by ‘in constant contact’.

I think it’s disrespectful to them. No one needs to know what they are doing and who they are in contact with. They need privacy with no outside pressure to talk to anyone.
 
That was a dead giveaway statement in my opinion. I think he wanted that out there really quickly to portray empathy with a happy and cohesive crew. Shortly after was ‘breakfast with the father and son’ followed by ‘in constant contact’.

I think it’s disrespectful to them. No one needs to know what they are doing and who they are in contact with. They need privacy with no outside pressure to talk to anyone.
I wonder if Halyna's husband is asking himself why Alec pointed the gun directly at her and not slightly to the side. She would still be alive.

He doesn't need AB constantly reminding him of things like that. JMO.
 
I think they are painting a picture that there was intentional sabotage after she checked the gun with the AD.

To me, it looks bad for her but much worse for the AD who declared the gun cold and for the man who did not check the gun before he pulled the trigger, Alec Baldwin.

I have come around to AB shouldn’t have pulled the trigger. But as far as checking the gun… If HGR didn’t identify a live round, and DH didn’t identify a live round, how would AB have known what he was seeing was a live round?
 
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