Alec Baldwin fired prop gun, killing 1 on movie set, Oct 2021 #3

[Luna20]

How do socks prevent passersby from picking up guns? Were they dirty smelly socks?

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Instead of keeping them in a safe she kept them inside socks and it was fine since blanks were in them. Passerby would see the socks and automatically know what was going on.....

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If they are going to use this bizarre sock narrative blankets or rugs would have been a better cover up.

 

[Gardenista]

I have a question, hope it is not too dumb. In the Colt videos I've watched, they always talk about leaving one chamber empty because if you don't, the gun goes off very easily (at least I think that is what they were saying). Could the fact that HGR might have loaded 6 rounds been one of the many reasons this happened?

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I have come around to AB shouldn’t have pulled the trigger. But as far as checking the gun… If HGR didn’t identify a live round, and the DH didn’t identify a live round, how would AB have known what he was seeing was a live round?

I ask why did they give Alec Baldwin a real firearm that is capable of firing deadly live ammunition to rehearse with?

They had a totally safe rubber revolver on set that was designed for that exact situation. Why didn't they use that instead? JMO.

 

[everybodhi]

My guess is that AB will offer a relatively small, yet still meaningful settlement to Halyna's family and teh famly of the wounded person.

Any personal injury attorney can sit a jury willing to award monumental sums, but having appellate courts uphold such verdicts is another matter. Appellate courts could be more sympathetic to AB than juries.

As for the other potential- and probable suits, I think any settlement will be refused as paying one or some will only generate more suits.

There is six million in company insurance, like the Alex Murdaugh wrongful death of his housekeeper case, I think those funds will be tapped first but that doesn't mean other damages from personal accounts won't eventually be awarded too.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I have a question, hope it is not too dumb. In the Colt videos I've watched, they always talk about leaving one chamber empty because if you don't, the gun goes off very easily (at least I think that is what they were saying). Could the fact that HGR might have loaded 6 rounds been one of the many reasons this happened?

The reason why the original Colt design is not safe with six rounds in it is if the gun is carried with the hammer down, or not cocked, on a live round it's possible for a blow to the back of the hammer causing the gun to fire.

I don't think that applies to this case. JMO.

 

[everybodhi]

I ask why did they give Alec Baldwin a real firearm that is capable of firing deadly live ammunition to rehearse with?

They had a totally safe rubber revolver on set that was designed for that exact situation. Why didn't they use that instead? JMO.

I'm also curious as to who made that decision, to rehearse with the real gun?

 

[Deleted member 39678]

There is six million in company insurance, like the Alex Murdaugh wrongful death of his housekeeper case, I think those funds will be tapped first but that doesn't mean other damages from personal accounts won't eventually be awarded too.

After the insurance company pays off the six million to Halyna's family and Joel Souza can the insurance company go after anyone to cover their loses?

 

[steeltowngirl]

There is six million in company insurance, like the Alex Murdaugh wrongful death of his housekeeper case, I think those funds will be tapped first but that doesn't mean other damages from personal accounts won't eventually be awarded too.

AB is probably worth $50 million. DH probably $5 million. HGR might have some ramen noodles and a box of dummy ammo to spare.

 

[al66pine]

Socks Safeguarding Six-Shooters on Santa Fe Set???

....“ attorney for Gutierrez-Reed, told the outlet that she loaded the guns with dummy rounds for an afternoon filming session, placed socks over them to prevent passersby from picking them up, and went off to lunch. Was there a duty to safeguard them 24/7?” Gorence said. “The answer is no, because there were no live rounds.”
Alec Baldwin's 'Rust' gun left unattended before Halyna Hutchins shot

@Luna20 sbm bbm Who came up with this as either a flimsy safety measure before the shooting or impossibly lame excuse after the fact? Armorer or atty? Dreamed up, as obviously there was little or no thinking involved.

So leaving sock-ified guns unattended, did armorer place them inside a Marvel super hero's Shield of Invisibility, to guarantee nobody could spot/ tamper w them? /sarc

 

[Cool Cats]

If they are going to use this bizarre sock narrative blankets or rugs would have been a better cover up.

Apparently there is such a thing as "gun socks"

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[mickey2942]

I am going to bet that HGR's father, Thell Reed, never left guns and ammo laying around with socks on them. Nor, do I believe that HGR was trained that was an acceptable method of securing weapons.

 

[Luna20]

Apparently there is such a thing as "gun socks"

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So that would make them more recognizable if they are actually a thing. Just not the same as a safe for safety

 

[Luna20]

I am going to bet that HGR's father, Thell Reed, never left guns and ammo laying around with socks on them. Nor, do I believe that HGR was trained that was an acceptable method of securing weapons.

Right the only acceptable method is a safe.

The socks could be a way to protect guns from being scratched.

 

[Cool Cats]

I have a question, hope it is not too dumb. In the Colt videos I've watched, they always talk about leaving one chamber empty because if you don't, the gun goes off very easily (at least I think that is what they were saying). Could the fact that HGR might have loaded 6 rounds been one of the many reasons this happened?

No. Only takes 1 round to kill someone. Better to load 6 rounds of blanks then 1 round of a real lead bullet.

 

[Luna20]

Socks Safeguarding Six-Shooters on Santa Fe Set???
@Luna20 sbm bbm Who came up with this as either a flimsy safety measure before the shooting or impossibly lame excuse after the fact? Armorer or atty? Dreamed up, as obviously there was little or no thinking involved.

So leaving sock-ified guns unattended, did armorer place them inside a Marvel super hero's Shield of Invisibility, to guarantee nobody could spot/ tamper w them? /sarc

She went on record with the police saying the guns were locked in the safe. The attorney offered this new spin claiming she had 2 jobs therefore she couldn’t watch the firearm loot. Makes no sense!

 

[JudgeJoe]

AB is probably worth $50 million. DH probably $5 million. HGR might have some ramen noodles and a box of dummy ammo to spare.

Lol- yes & value of ramen & ammo box aside, future earnings potential has declined significantly.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I just thought of something else in regards to liability insurance for this production.

If the policy states that certain safety measures have to be met and it's proven that they were not met, does that mean there is no insurance coverage in this case?

 

[JudgeJoe]

Apparently there is such a thing as "gun socks"

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Adding to massive list of what I’ve learned on WS…

 

[Cool Cats]

So that would make them more recognizable if they are actually a thing. Just not the same as a safe for safety

Yup. Recognizable but not safe. An individual locked gun case sitting out would have been safer.

I mean this type:

The Negrini Modern Handgun and Pistol case.

Safer than a pistol sock. She wouldn't even bother with something as simple as this. Such a "crime." I am totally discusted.

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[JudgeJoe]

I just thought of something else in regards to liability insurance for this production.

If the policy states that certain safety measures have to be met and it's proven that they were not met, does that mean there is no insurance coverage in this case?

Yes imo. Sure would like to see the fine print in that policy.