Alec Baldwin fired prop gun, killing 1 on movie set, Oct 2021 #5

[Lexiintoronto]

Cheese and Rice!
Did AB help write that? Especially number 7.
From the complaint:

"It does not diminish that loss to say that October 21 was also the worst day in Alec Baldwin’s life. That day has and will continue to haunt Baldwin. “Accidental killers often report experiencing symptoms associated with posttraumatic stress disorder: flashbacks, hallucinations, nightmares, and what’s known as ‘moral injury.’” Yet, as a society, we do not provide the resources or understanding for people going through these tragedies: "......

He's still a victim.....Gosh Darnit!

‘No resources’. Sigh.

I read a comment that pointed out that despite the trauma Alec says he was going through he was pushing to complete the film—a western full of gunfights and death.

And he thought it would be a tribute to Halyna’s work. I’d think it would only serve as a reminder to a negligent production that caused her death.

 

[katydid23]

I am way behind on this thread. But it is almost hard to believe, that in the one week since I last checked in here, AB has managed to dig a hole deeper and deeper and deeper, with his moronic, shocking, ham handed, public declarations.

 

[Laughing]

Thanks, @Arkay , I was going to mention First Lady Laura Bush!

There are support groups & counseling protocols for parents who experience miscarriage, and for parents who lose infants to SIDS, parents who lose children to congenital syndromes, parents who lose children to disease. Might be something applicable for you there, Alec?

How about support & counseling protocols for the 19 year olds we send to fight wars? Might be something applicable for you there, Alec.

So what specific type of support is there for a 9-year-old whose Mom is insulted in the media over & over & over & over by AB???

I wonder if anyone looked....

Amazed that AB keeps digging the hole deeper & deeper. Another case where you might laugh to keep from crying.

jmho ymmv lrr

 

[Dawookie]

So AB is now saying he only pulled the hammer back part way and then he let go of it. Number one why would he do that and number two wouldn't one of the hammer notches prevent the hammer from dropping all the way? Safety and half notches. Unless his finger was holding the trigger back while he was pulling on the hammer. JMO.

How To Function Check A Colt Single Action Army Revolver

https://deadline.com/wp-content/upl...-JAMS-FILED-Indemnification-Complaint2142.pdf

He would do that because he's clueless and trusts that when someone hands him a firearm, he takes their word that the weapon is safe instead of taking a few seconds to actually check that it is. And it wouldn't surprise me if he did have his finger on the trigger.

 

[Dawookie]

I am way behind on this thread. But it is almost hard to believe, that in the one week since I last checked in here, AB has managed to dig a hole deeper and deeper and deeper, with his moronic, shocking, ham handed, public declarations.

That's the giant ego and IMO, a little bit of narcissism at play. He just can't keep his mouth shut because he's a victim in all of this and has to let everyone know

 

[mickey2942]

That's the giant ego and IMO, a little bit of narcissism at play. He just can't keep his mouth shut because he's a victim in all of this and has to let everyone know

The civil trial, would be held in New Mexico? AB won't find a sympathetic jury there. Every single thing he has said or written since he shot and killed Halyna Hutchins can be used at trial.

And Mr. Hutchins is a Harvard law school attorney, he probably doesn't need any money for a quick settlement. This won't go away.

 

[Dawookie]

The civil trial, would be held in New Mexico? AB won't find a sympathetic jury there. Every single thing he has said or written since he shot and killed Halyna Hutchins can be used at trial.

And Mr. Hutchins is a Harvard law school attorney, he probably doesn't need any money for a quick settlement. This won't go away.

Yeah it's going to be in New Mexico. His people have to be going crazy right now with all the verbal diarrhea coming out of his mouth knowing it's making things worse.

I didn't know he was a lawyer so yeah he probably doesn't need the money. He's going to make this as painful as possible for Baldwin.

 

[BeachSky]

Alec Baldwin Seeks to Avoid Liability in Fatal ‘Rust’ Shooting

Mr. Nikas described in the claim how, in the weeks after the fatal shooting, Mr. Baldwin had sought to persuade the cast and crew of “Rust” to finish the film to honor Ms. Hutchins, outlining a plan in which an insurance payout and the film’s profits would go to a settlement for Mr. Hutchins and the couple’s 9-year-old son.

BBM

What ?!
This twisted type of personality becomes more transparent with age.
Pathetic !!!

MOO

 

[shotgun09]

Yeah it's going to be in New Mexico. His people have to be going crazy right now with all the verbal diarrhea coming out of his mouth knowing it's making things worse.

I didn't know he was a lawyer so yeah he probably doesn't need the money. He's going to make this as painful as possible for Baldwin.

Yeah, the 'She made me do it' spilling out of AB's mouth was the last straw. This husband/father/lion is serious now.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I don't think that AB needs any kind of help with PTSD since he say's he didn't do anything wrong and is totally innocent.

He didn't load the gun, he didn't pull the trigger, it wasn't his idea to point the gun at Halyna. It's all other peoples fault so he should have no guilty feelings about her death.

I can't believe that he's taking zero responsibility for his own actions and at the same time asking for sympathy. I find it disgusting. JMO.

 

[mickey2942]

I see Mr. Hutchins a lot like the father of Ron Goldman. Mr. Goldman has been literally trailing OJ Simpson for almost 30 years. OJ gets a bit of money, Goldman snaps it up, for the judgement he received after the Civil lawsuit.

OJ Simpson still fighting against orders to pay $60M for Goldman deaths, lawyer says | WGN-TV

 

[katydid23]

Yeah, the 'She made me do it' spilling out of AB's mouth was the last straw. This husband/father/lion is serious now.

And we know that AB has been texting Mr Hutchins since the first day. Can you imagine the gems he texted to the widow? It just fueled his rage, I am sure.

 

[Dawookie]

'Rust' movie armorer: Alec Baldwin pointed gun 'against all rules and common sense' - CNN

So the armorer is saying she was never called in to inspect the gun and that she had no idea that they were practicing the cross draw scene. Also said he never practiced the cross draw with her and that other training wasn't done because of budgeting and being overruled by production staff.

 

[shotgun09]

'Rust' movie armorer: Alec Baldwin pointed gun 'against all rules and common sense' - CNN

So the armorer is saying she was never called in to inspect the gun and that she had no idea that they were practicing the cross draw scene. Also said he never practiced the cross draw with her and that other training wasn't done because of budgeting and being overruled by production staff.

Good article. From what I read, it seems to me that AB is clearly negligent in two parts of this shooting.
One: He never completed practicing the cross draw training with the armorer, prior to the event as requested.....(documented I am sure).
Two: AB continued the shooting scene 'practice', with a gun (capable of firing live rounds) in very unsafe and questionable manner. He pointed a gun at an individual, and he continued to do so without the armorer present on scene as required.

 

[DI_Isokawa]

The civil trial, would be held in New Mexico? AB won't find a sympathetic jury there.

I don't think that a New Mexico jury would be any more or less able to set aside their personal feelings as a jury anywhere else. He's not going to be on trial for being a jerk, he's going to be on trial for being negligent. And that depends on evidence, much of which we haven't seen.

 

[Gardenista]

Emily Miller
@emilymiller

UPDATE: Santa Fe Sheriff Spokesman told me today the FBI has not returned its forensics on the gun and ammo that was expected by end of Feb. (Alec Baldwin said he didn't pull the trigger and the gun just went off and thought it was loaded with dummies.)

Emily Miller
@emilymiller

For clarify -- the Sheriff's investigation of Alec Baldwin shooting in Octorber will not be completed without the results of the FBI forensics of the gun and ammo.

 

[shotgun09]

Emily Miller
@emilymiller

UPDATE: Santa Fe Sheriff Spokesman told me today the FBI has not returned its forensics on the gun and ammo that was expected by end of Feb. (Alec Baldwin said he didn't pull the trigger and the gun just went off and thought it was loaded with dummies.)

Emily Miller
@emilymiller

For clarify -- the Sheriff's investigation of Alec Baldwin shooting in Octorber will not be completed without the results of the FBI forensics of the gun and ammo.

...sigh....

They (FBI ) are very busy don't ya know....

 

[mickey2942]

I don't think that a New Mexico jury would be any more or less able to set aside their personal feelings as a jury anywhere else. He's not going to be on trial for being a jerk, he's going to be on trial for being negligent. And that depends on evidence, much of which we haven't seen.

I think that a New Mexico jury is definitely going to be less sympathetic to someone who states he is NOT responsible for basic gun safety when holding a gun.

I am going to guess that AB has been in a lot of films, that required basic gun safety protocols. If nothing else, some sort of "internet training" that was required for insurance. He probably clicked thru it, signed it, and promptly forgot it.

Those are, no doubt going to be found.

 

[katydid23]

Good article. From what I read, it seems to me that AB is clearly negligent in two parts of this shooting.
One: He never completed practicing the cross draw training with the armorer, prior to the event as requested.....(documented I am sure).
Two: AB continued the shooting scene 'practice', with a gun (capable of firing live rounds) in very unsafe and questionable manner. He pointed a gun at an individual, and he continued to do so without the armorer present on scene as required.

That other main player that seems to be in legal trouble would be the Asst. Director, whose job and responsibility is to make certain that these protocols were followed.

---It was up to the AD to make certain that there were safety meetings between the actors with the weapons and the armorer, to practice those scenes.
---It was up to the AD to make certain that EACH SCENE had the necessary safety items and necessary crew members in order to assure safety.
---It was up to the AD to make certain that the armorer would be present in any scenes or rehearsals were a weapon was being used.

The AD did not do any of the above. [ And reportedly, he has a history of not following the safety protocols in other projects]

I do hold AB responsible as well because he was the one required to hold and use the weapon----he is a very experienced actor so he knows the drill. He knows what needed to be done. He knows to never aim a weapon at a crew member in the unsafe way he did that day.

And AB is one of the producers. So the failure of the safety protocols were also on him.

 

[Cool Cats]

‘Rust’ Armorer: Alec Baldwin Pointed Gun ‘Against All Rules and Common Sense’

“Rust” armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed has pushed back against Alec Baldwin’s claims in legal filings that she told him to the gun that accidentally killed cinematographer Halyna Hutchins, and instead accused Baldwin of violating gun safety protocols.

In a statement released Saturday by her representatives, Gutierrez-Reed said that she was never summoned by Baldwin or any producer to inspect the gun the morning of the shooting. “Hannah was not called into the Church before the impromptu gun scene rehearsal and she should have been,” the statement said, according to CNN.

“Mr. Baldwin knew that he could never point a firearm at crew members under any circumstances and had a duty of safety to his fellow crew members. Yet he did point the gun at Halyna before the fatal incident against all rules and common sense,” it continued.