Alec Baldwin fired prop gun, killing 1 on movie set, Oct 2021 #5

[EGirl]

"Any claim that Alec was reckless is entirely false," attorney Aaron Dyer said on behalf of Baldwin in a statement to Fox News Digital earlier this month." from this link: Alec Baldwin shares cryptic posts about Buddhism, telling lies amid 'Rust' wrongful death lawsuit

I just don't get why the DA would make this kind of definitive claim— "entirely false".

Did the DA say that or did his attorney say that? Can't read the article.

 

[DI_Isokawa]

Did the DA say that or did his attorney say that? Can't read the article.

Baldwin's lawyer said that. Standard practice.

All of this is great media fodder for Baldwin's enemies but it distracts from the principal open issue: How did a live round get in the ready-to-fire position in the cylinder of that revolver he was waving around? None of the parties seem to want to talk about that.

 

[everlearning]

Baldwin's lawyer said that. Standard practice.

All of this is great media fodder for Baldwin's enemies but it distracts from the principal open issue: How did a live round get in the ready-to-fire position in the cylinder of that revolver he was waving around? None of the parties seem to want to talk about that.

Oh, I'm glad you clarified that. Somehow I thought the DA made that statement. Thank you!

 

[BeachSky]

Here he goes again. He wants to have the last word so as to be in a position of power over others. It’s passive aggressive. This is insulting to Halynas family.

Alec Baldwin shares cryptic posts about Buddhism, telling lies amid 'Rust' wrongful death lawsuit

the liar thing:
He’s actually projecting what he is and does…on to others IMO. It’s a personality disorder and sadly a common defense move.
Karma is patient Alec .
I don’t know who said that but it definitely applies!

MOO

 

[Cool Cats]

"Any claim that Alec was reckless is entirely false," attorney Aaron Dyer said on behalf of Baldwin in a statement to Fox News Digital earlier this month." from this link: Alec Baldwin shares cryptic posts about Buddhism, telling lies amid 'Rust' wrongful death lawsuit

I just don't get why the DA would make this kind of definitive claim— "entirely false".

Alex's attorney, Aaron Dyer, said this in an earlier statement not the DA.

Alec Baldwin’s attorney calls claims actor was ‘reckless’ on ‘Rust’ set ‘entirely false’

 

[shotgun09]

Well...here is my 'Headline' :

"Websleuth's member, aka Shotgun09 calls blameless and 'victim-hood' claims made by Baldwin 'entirely false'.

FIFY

 

[mickey2942]

I am surprised that there has been nothing filed by Joel Souza. Have I missed anything? We have not heard anything from him. Injured by same bullet (?) That killed Haylana Hutchins.

 

[GatorFL]

I am surprised that there has been nothing filed by Joel Souza. Have I missed anything? We have not heard anything from him. Injured by same bullet (?) That killed Haylana Hutchins.

I'm sure it is coming. Remember, the wheels of justice turn slowly, but grind exceedingly fine.

 

[MsMarple]

Whether or not criminal charges are filed in New Mexico for AB or anyone else I hope the DA conducts a thorough investigation and acts according to NM laws. Let's have a transparent investigation, including close examination of the actual gun fired that day, by neutral experts.

IOW I hope there's no influence on anyone due to a Hollywood celebrity's status or potential state income from future movie production commitments.
MOO.

 

[cocomod]

The biggest questions still remain:

First - How did live rounds get on set??
Second - How did a live round get in to the gun that AB was waiving around??

 

[GatorFL]

The biggest questions still remain:

First - How did live rounds get on set??
Second - How did a live round get in to the gun that AB was waiving around??

And why didn't Baldwin follow industry protocol and inspect the gun with the armorer before using it in the scene?

 

[DI_Isokawa]

And why didn't Baldwin follow industry protocol and inspect the gun with the armorer before using it in the scene?

With respect, that's a bit off topic for this exchange. As is typical in multifactor situations, it is the case that had there been no live round there would have been no incident and if the round had been detected by AB or anybody else there would have been no incident. It is the first factor that cocomod and have been discussing, in my case because I feel it has been neglected in both the media and here.

 

[Luna20]

With respect, that's a bit off topic for this exchange. As is typical in multifactor situations, it is the case that had there been no live round there would have been no incident and if the round had been detected by AB or anybody else there would have been no incident. It is the first factor that cocomod and have been discussing, in my case because I feel it has been neglected in both the media and here.

“my case” What case is that?

 

[katydid23]

With respect, that's a bit off topic for this exchange. As is typical in multifactor situations, it is the case that had there been no live round there would have been no incident and if the round had been detected by AB or anybody else there would have been no incident. It is the first factor that cocomod and have been discussing, in my case because I feel it has been neglected in both the media and here.

However, the main reason they have the fail safe protocols for film projects is because disastrous details can go wrong----and the way to prevent lethal outcomes is by following those strict rules.

If they had followed them, then no one would have died.


The armorer screwed up big time, by leaving the weapons out on that cart!

Also:
----AB was NOT supposed to aim that weapon at anyone, at all.

-----But IF he was going to have to do so, for the camera footage, then the armorer HAD TO be present, to discuss the scene, recheck the weapon and ammo...

-----and the crew was supposed to step out of the line of fire, and not be behind the camera at that time. And they had to have safety equipment on...

 

[DI_Isokawa]

“my case” What case is that?

Just another way of saying "for me." Sorry for the confusion.

 

[DI_Isokawa]

and the way to prevent lethal outcomes is by following those strict rules.

Absolutely agree. The systemic problem in this incident is that in New Mexico they are not rules, they are suggestions. That's why sketchy operations like this production like it here.

Even the formal safety bulletins which document these protocols refer to them as "recommendations" and "guidelines," not "rules." This is explicitly noted in a disclaimer on the bottom of each page.

Safety Bulletin #1 ("Recommendations for Use of Firearms and Blank Ammunition") has been extensively discussed here. I suggest we move on to Safety Bulletin #2 ("Special Use of 'Live Ammunition'") whose guidelines were ignored in their entirety.

So, how did live ammunition not only get in the weapon, but also get positioned in the "next to fire" location in the cylinder? Lots of sleuthing to be done there.

 

[shotgun09]

Absolutely agree. The systemic problem in this incident is that in New Mexico they are not rules, they are suggestions. That's why sketchy operations like this production like it here.

Even the formal safety bulletins which document these protocols refer to them as "recommendations" and "guidelines," not "rules." This is explicitly noted in a disclaimer on the bottom of each page.

Safety Bulletin #1 ("Recommendations for Use of Firearms and Blank Ammunition") has been extensively discussed here. I suggest we move on to Safety Bulletin #2 ("Special Use of 'Live Ammunition'") whose guidelines were ignored in their entirety.

So, how did live ammunition not only get in the weapon, but also get positioned in the "next to fire" location in the cylinder? Lots of sleuthing to be done there.

I agree! And, mysteriously the discussion of 'plinking' during the lunch hour break the day of the shooting. WHO exactly was 'plinking'? The whole discussion seems to have vanished... More than likely, not one soul present will admit to partaking in that said activity. But, IMO...those answers would come in real handy for this investigation.

 

[cocomod]

However, the main reason they have the fail safe protocols for film projects is because disastrous details can go wrong----and the way to prevent lethal outcomes is by following those strict rules.

If they had followed them, then no one would have died.


The armorer screwed up big time, by leaving the weapons out on that cart!

Also:
----AB was NOT supposed to aim that weapon at anyone, at all.

-----But IF he was going to have to do so, for the camera footage, then the armorer HAD TO be present, to discuss the scene, recheck the weapon and ammo...

-----and the crew was supposed to step out of the line of fire, and not be behind the camera at that time. And they had to have safety equipment on...

Absolutely. To be perfectly clear, there was supposed to be protection between the camera, the camera operator, and the gun if there were to be a gun scene. Many, many failures on safety protocols from multiple crew members. It is interesting to me that this was just a "rehearsal" and not filming. So, why was a loaded gun used during this time anyway? But, the first line of questioning I would have is WHY was there live rounds on set?? Why did the armorer leave guns accessible to the crew?? Why didn't the armorer realize that a live round was in the gun??

 

[Only4Justice]

He looks like a strung out freak. His wife isn’t the one who died. I think he wants sympathy for the victim (himself). What does it take to comb your hair??

Husband of Rust cinematographer Halyna Hutchins felt 'so angry' seeing Alec Baldwin interview | Daily Mail Online

looks like alcoholism to me. That’s JMO

 

[DI_Isokawa]

Here's HGR's complaint against Seth Kenney. Some amazing and informative stuff in here, subject to the usual disclaimers.