Alec Baldwin fired prop gun, killing 1 on movie set, Oct 2021 #5

[PrairieWind]

Interesting. Have to hand it to AB's attorneys. They earned their fees on this.

 

[Sarahlou]

Strange outcome, IMO.

 

[DI_Isokawa]

Strange outcome, IMO.

With respect, I don't think so. It's quite possible Hutchins' lawyers saw too many complicating factors to give them a decent chance of winning, especially considering what happened during the test of the pistol. A loss would be hurtful psychologically as well as financially to the her son, so I easily see myself doing the same thing as Hutchins if I were in his place.

 

[PrairieWind]

The article isn't clear, but I am guessing that the claims against the armorer and director are settle too. It would be interesting to see the terms of the settlement.

 

[deugirtni]

The article isn't clear, but I am guessing that the claims against the armorer and director are settle too. It would be interesting to see the terms of the settlement.

It seems Hannah is doing a lot of hoping anyway.

The movie set's armorer, Hannah Gutierrez-Reed, was also named as a defendant in the estate's lawsuit.

While a settlement has not yet been reached with her, Gutierrez-Reed's attorney Jason Bowles said his client is hopeful these out-of-court civil resolutions might point to a decision against prosecution.

"Hannah is grateful that this settlement will benefit the Hutchins family and that the parties were able to constructively resolve the civil lawsuit," Bowles said in a statement.

"We are hopeful that the district attorney's office will also recognize that a measure of Justice has been achieved in regards to this tragic accident, and that they will opt not to pursue criminal charges."

Alec Baldwin settles lawsuit with family of cinematographer killed on 'Rust' set

Alec Baldwin settled a lawsuit filed by loved ones of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins, who was killed on the set of his movie "Rust" last year, representatives

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[deugirtni]

I guess Mamie is still pursuing her own compensation.

Mamie Mitchell, the script supervisor who witnessed the fatal shooting, will not be returning to "Rust" as she pursues her own civil suit against producers.

"She is too traumatized to return to that set, because Mamie was standing next to Halyna Hutchins when Halyna was shot and killed," Mitchell's lawyer Gloria Allred said in a statement.

"Mamie is committed to seeking justice in her case. She is very happy that Halyna's son and family have reached a settlement that they believe is fair to them. However, Mamie will continue her pursuit of justice in her civil case, and she will also be willing to testify in a criminal case if one is filed."

Alec Baldwin settles lawsuit with family of cinematographer killed on 'Rust' set

Alec Baldwin settled a lawsuit filed by loved ones of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins, who was killed on the set of his movie "Rust" last year, representatives

www.yahoo.com

 

[BeachSky]

Alec Baldwin 'Rust' Settlement Will Not Impact Criminal Investigation

Matthew Hutchins' settlement in his wrongful death suit against Alec Baldwin and others from the set of "Rust" means production is back on ... but it doesn't mean the ongoing criminal investigation into the D.P.'s death is coming to a halt.

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"While civil suits are settled privately and often involve financial awards, criminal cases deal only in facts. If the facts and evidence warrant criminal charges under New Mexico law then charges will be brought. No one is above the law.

 

[mickey2942]

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Interesting. I would guess that safety protocols with guns will be followed this time.

 

[PrairieWind]

I can't imagine that HGR would still be the armorer.

 

[cocomod]

I can't imagine that HGR would still be the armorer.

Or will be an armorer on any production in the near future (if ever) would be my bet.

 

[mickey2942]

I can't imagine that HGR would still be the armorer.

No. But I personally think that she was thrown to the wolves here. It is obvious that she was not respected, it seems to me that she was treated like the "prop girl".

However, I was very surprised by the casual treatment of live guns on the set. Laid on a table, no security protocol. For someone who was supposedly educated by her father as an apprentice, HGR did not seem to take her position seriously or exert authority or respect on the set for her position. She was probably not a good job fit. No one should have been able to get a gun, unless she gave it to him or her, after she personally checked the weapon and ammo, and the person given the gun also did a complete safety check. That is standard protocol for gun safety as far as I know...not talking about movie sets, just basic routine gun safety.

 

[BeachSky]

It’s shameful to release Alec Baldwin’s tragic movie ‘Rust’

Coming soon to a theater near you: the worst decision ever.

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What happened ???
This is a total about face for the dear husband IMO.
Some talking head on Court TV said Alec may not be able to return to -the Rust set- if he is in fact named in the criminal case.

Just what I thought I heard

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

I am unsettled & can’t explain why……

 

[PrairieWind]

It’s shameful to release Alec Baldwin’s tragic movie ‘Rust’

Coming soon to a theater near you: the worst decision ever.

nypost.com

What happened ???
This is a total about face for the dear husband IMO.
Some talking head on Court TV said Alec may not be able to return to -the Rust set- if he is in fact named in the criminal case.

Just what I thought I heard

I don't see why he couldn't continue on the movie set even if he is criminally charged. I do think it is possible that part of his bond conditions would state that he cannot be in possession of a firearm. But I am sure they would just a non-real gun for him if that is the case.

 

[Cryptic]

However, I was very surprised by the casual treatment of live guns on the set. Laid on a table, no security protocol.

I talked to a movie / television camera operator that I met in a bar and grill. He told me that they violated every safety protocol in the book:

- All issued weapons are checked by the armorer and the actor. Rubber guns and air softs (high end) are still treated as issued weapons.

- If the actor is unfamiliar with weapons, or is averse to handling them more than absolutely needed (pretty common), they are assigned a "shooting partner" who does the double check.

- Weapons are not just left lying around. Rather, they are brought by the armorer when they are needed to where they are needed. They are then issued and collected back.

- If live ammunition is being used, everybody on the set is advised. The armorer will then bring the actor's "black gun". A weapon used for blanks is not used as gun for live rounds. Rather, they are kept distinct.

- The armorer loads one round of live ammunition into the weapon. The actor fires it. The armorer then collects the spent cartridge. If required, the armorer loads another round. It is fired, cartridge is collected. Its always one round at a time- even if the actor is firing an entire live magazine. Movie magic blends it together.

- Nobody screws around with weapons on set (again, a rubber gun is still a weapon) because they are bored, practicing etc. Target shooting off set with live ammo? In his words: No &*%(& way!

 

[PrairieWind]

I talked to a movie / television camera operator that I met in a bar and grill. He told me that they violated every safety protocol in the book:

- All issued weapons are checked by the armorer and the actor. Rubber guns and air softs (high end) are still treated as issued weapons.

- If the actor is unfamiliar with weapons, or is averse to handling them more than absolutely needed (pretty common), they are assigned a "shooting partner" who does the double check.

- Weapons are not just left lying around. Rather, they are brought by the armorer when they are needed to where they are needed. They are then issued and collected back.

- If live ammunition is being used, everybody on the set is advised. The armorer will then bring the actor's "black gun". A weapon used for blanks is not used as gun for live rounds. Rather, they are kept distinct.

- The armorer loads one round of live ammunition into the weapon. The actor fires it. The armorer then collects the spent cartridge. If required, the armorer loads another round. It is fired, cartridge is collected. Its always one round at a time- even if the actor is firing an entire live magazine. Movie magic blends it together.

- Nobody screws around with weapons on set (again, a rubber gun is still a weapon) because they are bored, practicing etc. Target shooting off set with live ammo? In his words: No &*%(& way!

I think the armorer just was too young and inexperienced. Her father was a very well respected armorer and had done it for a lifetime. But she was very young and new. I believe this was only her second movie as an armorer (not sure if that is right, correct me if I am wrong). when directors, and others said "we want to do it this way......", instead of standing her ground and saying "no, that is not the way it is done," she let it happen. She just didn't have the experience and and confidence to stand up.

 

[Cryptic]

I think the armorer just was too young and inexperienced. when directors, and others said "we want to do it this way......", instead of standing her ground and saying "no, that is not the way it is done," she let it happen. She just didn't have the experience and and confidence to stand up.

I think this is an excellent description of what happened.

Then factor in that type A personalities are probably pretty standard amongst star actors and also with movie directors who are accustomed to running sets like absolute monarchs. As you stated, she was overwhelmed.

 

[Dotta]

I think this is an excellent description of what happened.

Then factor in that type A personalities are probably pretty standard amongst star actors and also with movie directors who are accustomed to running sets like absolute monarchs. As you stated, she was overwhelmed.

Maybe you are right.

But I still remember pictures of her from previous film she worked on, with her handling the weapons in a careless manner.
There was even a report she allowed a child actor to handle a gun.

I see her as an irresponsible worker - and it has nothing to do with age, but with work ethics.

What a pity Halyna paid with her life!

MOO

 

[PrairieWind]

Maybe you are right.

But I still remember pictures of her from previous film she worked on, with her handling the weapons in a careless manner.
There was even a report she allowed a child actor to handle a gun.

I see her as an irresponsible worker - and it has nothing to do with age, but with work ethics.

What a pity Halyna paid with her life!

MOO

She certainly seemed unprofessional in many of those photos. She seemed to have a lot of time to pose for photos with firearms but then complained later about being spread too thin.

 

[mickey2942]

I think this is an excellent description of what happened.

Then factor in that type A personalities are probably pretty standard amongst star actors and also with movie directors who are accustomed to running sets like absolute monarchs. As you stated, she was overwhelmed.

Poor job fit. She didn't command any respect, therefore, she was marginalized. Probably run over like a frieght train by AB and DH.

Interesting that there was a settlement, for Halenya's child, sealed. Crickets from Joel Souza...he was the director of Rust.