Alec Baldwin fired prop gun, killing 1 on movie set, Oct 2021 #5

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..... Interesting that there was a settlement, for Halenya's child, sealed. Crickets from Joel Souza...he was the director of Rust.
Not crickets from Joel, he's onboard:

Souza said he has agreed to resume his role as director.

"Those of us who were lucky enough to have spent time with Halyna knew her to be exceedingly talented, kind, creative, and a source of incredible positive energy," Souza said in a statement.

"I only wish the world had gotten to know her under different circumstances, as it surely would have through her amazing work."

Souza said he is returning to the "Rust" set only with Matthew Hutchins' blessing.

"In my own attempts to heal, any decision to return to finish directing the film could only make sense for me if it was done with the involvement of Matt and the Hutchins family," he said.

"Though certainly bittersweet, I am pleased that together, we will now complete what Halyna and I started. My every effort on this film will be devoted to honoring Halyna’s legacy and making her proud. It is a privilege to see this through on her behalf.”


 
Hmm.. is this what Halyna's husband does for a living? Or is this a new thing?

from link above:
As part of the peace, the DP’s husband Matthew Hutchins will executive produce Rust, which will return to production in January 2023 with the original cast.

Sounds like they put together a very patronizing package to appeal to Matthew in hopes of avoiding charges. I can see AB being right in the middle of it, telling Matthew ‘let’s turn this around to make this a tribute to Halyna’s legacy’

It’s unfortunate, I was hoping AB would have to suffer the consequences. He seems to always get a pass.
 
Hmm.. is this what Halyna's husband does for a living? Or is this a new thing?

from link above:
As part of the peace, the DP’s husband Matthew Hutchins will executive produce Rust, which will return to production in January 2023 with the original cast.
I hope this isn't true but considering they continued to film after Vic Morrow and two kids were killed on a movie set and a wrestling PPV continued after Owen Hart fell to his death I am not surprised.
 
Seems like there's a divide among crew members over finishing the film. I had to chop the quotes up due to copyright rules but here's a sample from a number of them:

“I absolutely would want nothing to do with it,” said one crew member, who asked not to be identified. “It was traumatizing across the board.”

“They didn’t cut corners — they did everything right,” said Aaron Ward, who did location work on the film. “It was just a freak accident, in my opinion.”

“The whole thing is challenging and complicated and messy,” said another crew member, who asked not to be identified out of concern over an NDA. “A lot of people around me were really hurt by those events.”

If he were asked, he said didn’t think he could return to his job.

“Nobody likes the idea at all,” [Scott Rasmussen, an armorer based in Albuquerque] said. “That’s not the way to honor Halyna — going back in and finishing the film with the person who killed her. <snipped for space> Everybody I’ve spoken to will not work on it.”

But another crew member said that Matthew Hutchins’ decision to participate as an executive producer meant a lot to him.

“I think he’s doing it for all the right reasons,” the crew member said.

Ed Pinkard, an animal wrangler who worked with horses on the film, said he also supports completing the project.
 
Seems like there's a divide among crew members over finishing the film. I had to chop the quotes up due to copyright rules but here's a sample from a number of them:

“I absolutely would want nothing to do with it,” said one crew member, who asked not to be identified. “It was traumatizing across the board.”

“They didn’t cut corners — they did everything right,” said Aaron Ward, who did location work on the film. “It was just a freak accident, in my opinion.”

“The whole thing is challenging and complicated and messy,” said another crew member, who asked not to be identified out of concern over an NDA. “A lot of people around me were really hurt by those events.”

If he were asked, he said didn’t think he could return to his job.

“Nobody likes the idea at all,” [Scott Rasmussen, an armorer based in Albuquerque] said. “That’s not the way to honor Halyna — going back in and finishing the film with the person who killed her. <snipped for space> Everybody I’ve spoken to will not work on it.”

But another crew member said that Matthew Hutchins’ decision to participate as an executive producer meant a lot to him.

“I think he’s doing it for all the right reasons,” the crew member said.

Ed Pinkard, an animal wrangler who worked with horses on the film, said he also supports completing the project.
Thank you for the above!
What I wonder, and have not seen or heard from during the last year, was what the other actors on this film say and feel. I am sure that they might be bound by contract (as in a NDA) to keep silent, but I truly wonder about the child actor (and his parents). The young boy was/is a main character in this production. And the sloppy, careless safety issues reported would have me personally saying "Hell No"! to the request to return under anything overseen by AB.
But that's just MOO
 
Seems like there's a divide among crew members over finishing the film. I had to chop the quotes up due to copyright rules but here's a sample from a number of them:

“I absolutely would want nothing to do with it,” said one crew member, who asked not to be identified. “It was traumatizing across the board.”

“They didn’t cut corners — they did everything right,” said Aaron Ward, who did location work on the film. “It was just a freak accident, in my opinion.”

“The whole thing is challenging and complicated and messy,” said another crew member, who asked not to be identified out of concern over an NDA. “A lot of people around me were really hurt by those events.”

If he were asked, he said didn’t think he could return to his job.

“Nobody likes the idea at all,” [Scott Rasmussen, an armorer based in Albuquerque] said. “That’s not the way to honor Halyna — going back in and finishing the film with the person who killed her. <snipped for space> Everybody I’ve spoken to will not work on it.”

But another crew member said that Matthew Hutchins’ decision to participate as an executive producer meant a lot to him.

“I think he’s doing it for all the right reasons,” the crew member said.

Ed Pinkard, an animal wrangler who worked with horses on the film, said he also supports completing the project.
Interesting.
I for one will absolutely not watch it and will cancel Netflix if they show it on there.
 

Rust filming will be MOVED from New Mexico to California next year as investigators probe scene where Alec Baldwin shot cinematographer dead

Rust will resume production this January, over a year after it was halted when star Alex Baldwin shot cinematographer Halyna Hutchins dead on set.

The film will resume at a new location, however, as the old New Mexico set remains closed amid the ongoing investigation into Hutchins' death.

Production teams are still looking for a new location, but Rust Movie Productions LLC attorney Melina Spadone said California was a possibility, according to Variety.


 
The only person responsible here is the one pulling the trigger and that person is Mr. Baldwin. He, and he alone, held the gun, pointed it at people and pulled the trigger, killing one and wounding another. It was his responsibility to handle the gun properly and to check the cylinder for live rounds.

Rule #1 in gun safety- ALL GUNS ARE LOADED UNTIL PROVEN OTHERWISE.

Rule #2 - NEVER POINT A GUN AT SOMEONE UNLESS YOU PLAN TO SHOOT THEM.

Why are they bothering to finish a film no one will see?
 
The only person responsible here is the one pulling the trigger and that person is Mr. Baldwin. He, and he alone, held the gun, pointed it at people and pulled the trigger, killing one and wounding another. It was his responsibility to handle the gun properly and to check the cylinder for live rounds.

Rule #1 in gun safety- ALL GUNS ARE LOADED UNTIL PROVEN OTHERWISE.

Rule #2 - NEVER POINT A GUN AT SOMEONE UNLESS YOU PLAN TO SHOOT THEM.

Why are they bothering to finish a film no one will see?

I respectfully disagree: there is a person on set whose responsibility it is to make sure there are no live rounds in a gun and that a gun is safe to use- that person is not Alec Baldwin. This horror represents a systemic issue and a breakdown of a system that should have been in place to prevent a horrible accident like this one, but it failed. Several people are involved including AB--I trust they will develop new protocol to ensure this does not happen again.
 
The only person responsible here is the one pulling the trigger and that person is Mr. Baldwin. He, and he alone, held the gun, pointed it at people and pulled the trigger, killing one and wounding another. It was his responsibility to handle the gun properly and to check the cylinder for live rounds.

Rule #1 in gun safety- ALL GUNS ARE LOADED UNTIL PROVEN OTHERWISE.

Rule #2 - NEVER POINT A GUN AT SOMEONE UNLESS YOU PLAN TO SHOOT THEM.

Why are they bothering to finish a film no one will see?
I think the person most responsible, and only one criminally responsible, is the person whose job it was to make sure this can't happen: the armorer. There were a lot of breakdowns of safety on this set for sure. And lots of people didn't do their jobs. We will see if Hollywood makes any real changes.

I'm not all that surprised to see the movie being completed. Plenty of people will pay to see it. Probably more now than before.
 

Rust filming will be MOVED from New Mexico to California next year as investigators probe scene where Alec Baldwin shot cinematographer dead

Rust will resume production this January, over a year after it was halted when star Alex Baldwin shot cinematographer Halyna Hutchins dead on set.

The film will resume at a new location, however, as the old New Mexico set remains closed amid the ongoing investigation into Hutchins' death.

Production teams are still looking for a new location, but Rust Movie Productions LLC attorney Melina Spadone said California was a possibility, according to Variety.


From a trade source:

 
The only person responsible here is the one pulling the trigger and that person is Mr. Baldwin. He, and he alone, held the gun, pointed it at people and pulled the trigger, killing one and wounding another. It was his responsibility to handle the gun properly and to check the cylinder for live rounds.

Rule #1 in gun safety- ALL GUNS ARE LOADED UNTIL PROVEN OTHERWISE.

Rule #2 - NEVER POINT A GUN AT SOMEONE UNLESS YOU PLAN TO SHOOT THEM.

Why are they bothering to finish a film no one will see?

I respectfully disagree. This isn't at home or on a shooting range or even on a hunting or camping trip. This is a movie. I agree that your rules apply to normal gun involvement. However, we are talking about a movie set. We are talking about a place where things happen on a daily basis that do not happen in real life. We are talking about a gun that was yelled to be "cold". We are talking about a situation where the armorer was supposed to be in charge of safety and was ultimately 100% supposed to be responsible for the gun safety on the set. First and foremost - she miserably failed at her job. The gun was out of her sight. The gun was not handled properly. But, even more disturbing is she allowed live rounds on set!!! It begins with the armorer, then the AD, then with Baldwin.
 
As a society we have difficulties with adverse events that arise from the combination of multiple factors. We want a perp, or at list a single cause, the search for which is known in the safety game as "root cause seduction." Prof. Leveson argues that "blame is the enemy of safety." By this she means that the search for a perp/root cause can impede the the search for a level of understanding that would, in turn, help prevent a recurrence. She also observes that blame is a social construct and therefore essentially a matter of opinion, depending on the legal, moral, and ethical background of the person or organization expressing it.

Analysis, on the other hand, is or should be an unencumbered, fact-base search for what happened and why. If we look at the three major factors involved in this event we find that there are precious few facts available.

The first factor is the contamination of a supply of dummy rounds, which are essentially used to decorate props and costumes, with one or more live rounds. Evidence is that the live rounds were from a group of low-power, hand-loaded training rounds previously made and used by an Albuquerque firm. We do not know how many dummy rounds were supplied, how many live rounds were discovered after the event, an whether or why there was a last-minute supplemental delivery of dummy rounds. Since the majority of the rounds ended up in gun belts, a crude estimate of probabilities shows that a purely accidental journey of a live round to the firing position in the cylinder of the weapon is fairly unlikely. Not impossible, but unlikely enough to look for other causes, such as a prank gone wrong.

The second factor is the weapon. We know practically nothing about this piece. We do not know its serial number, date of manufacture, degree of wear or state of cleanliness. The FBI has been reliably quoted as saying that if the weapon was in good shape, a trigger pull is required to release the hammer, and that the weapon broke when it was being tested. The crucial test would be to pull the hammer of that specific weapon back less than fully latched* and releasing it, and seeing if that would cause the weapon to fire with no finger on the trigger. We have no idea if that test was conducted and if conducted, what the result was.

The third factor is the chaotic and unrecorded interaction of individuals on the set before, during, and after the event. We are reliant on the memories of individuals, many of whom have one sort of stake or another in the outcome of the criminal and civil actions

Until we see the full results of the criminal investigation, including the full text of the FBI lab report, we are unable to perform even the most elementary analysis of causality. Which, of course, does not prevent any of us (myself included) from having an opinion. :-)

*Usage is as shown because the site's inappropriate word filter does not like the technical term for "fully latched."
 
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