Alec Baldwin

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believe09 said:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100212/ap_on_en_tv/us_people_alec_baldwin

Ireland, 14, apparently called 911 when she spoke to her father and she believed he threatened to OD during the phone call. She called him back and was unable to reach him on the phone, so called 911 and he was taken by ambulance, evaluated and released.

Here is where I am confused-what is a 14 year old doing up at 12AM on a school night talking to her emotionally distraught father??

Alec-she is a child. JMO.
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Alex Baldwin needs to grow up, what he continues to put that child through is criminal.
 
southcitymom said:
But who will protect her from her mother, whose behavior is equally awful, IMHO......?

My prayers to this whole family. Having a child doesn't instill parents with the ability to act like grownups, something we see here on WS every day.
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Honest question.........what has she done? I always hear about him....
 
mysterygirl said:
Honest question.........what has she done? I always hear about him....
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The only things I've heard she's done as far as Alec's relationship with Ireland is what Alec has said she's done. He's the victim according to him. Kim is turning their daughter against him. In my opinion Alec is turning his daughter against him.
 
mikeysmommom said:
I have a son who fathered a child with a mental case, they can and will drive a man insane as well as the complete family.Missing time with your child is devastating to a parent .I have seen how the courts treat a father and its not pretty,Mothers no matter how mental defected get custody and control over the child.Any parent who uses a child to torture the other parent should lose custody.Children should never be used as weapons but unfortunately they do everyday and the courts allow it.I use to always be on the mothers side till I saw first hand how horrible even good fathers are treated by the courts.
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AMEN - and I don't even like Mr. Baldwin one bit - in fact I dislike him, but I can see how KB is very possibly the worse of the two. I have seen parental alienation by a sociopathic/psychopathic mother who looks as normal as anyone and who thinks she can fool everyone and she nearly does - she fooled the court system by always playing the victim and setting things up perfectly.

I would count on the fact that KB is a mental case and AB is no prize, but I can almost give him a pass on some of this because I know that being on the outside looking in - it can be so deceiving who the bad guy really is...and I dislike AB!!
 
ziggy said:
AMEN - and I don't even like Mr. Baldwin one bit - in fact I dislike him, but I can see how KB is very possibly the worse of the two. I have seen parental alienation by a sociopathic/psychopathic mother who looks as normal as anyone and who thinks she can fool everyone and she nearly does - she fooled the court system by always playing the victim and setting things up perfectly.

I would count on the fact that KB is a mental case and AB is no prize, but I can almost give him a pass on some of this because I know that being on the outside looking in - it can be so deceiving who the bad guy really is...and I dislike AB!!
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Yes, we need to keep in mind that we don't know the whole story. My stepdaughter's mother has borderline personality disorder and she had a lot of people fooled for years - including him until they got married. (Classic borderlines usually don't show their true colors at the onset of a relationship). Once my late husband moved out and divorced her, he learned how to "walk on thin ice" while maintaining a relationship with his daughter. It was very difficult for him for years.

However, if someone like Alec Baldwin is not able to maintain an anger-free relationship with his ex (and it sounds like Kim Basinger is a bit of a mental case), then I imagine you have what we are seeing, with the Child in the middle. My stepdaughter is a great girl, but has picked up a lot of her mother's anger issues. She never yelled at her dad, instead would direct her rage at me during the time she lived with us. That's because her mother directed her anger at me. The mother told false stories about me, and my stepdaughter would repeat them to me when she was angry at me. One time, when I would not let her wear an inappropriate outfit to school, she called me a bitc# and a c##t -- and she was 7 years old! I did not yell back at her, because I knew she was mirroring her mother. Her father and I had to work with her to help her change her behavior. However, when she went back to her mother it started up again.

I imagine that Ireland has seen each of her parents screaming and cursing at each other all of her life, and probably does the same with each parent-- using the same words they use. Her father probably gives it right back to her (like when he called her a pig, etc.) because he can't control himself either. What a toxic environment for a child!
 
Hmm.......I'd just like to know some evidence of Kim being a mental case other than Alec saying so........

He says lots of things that are out there.
 
mysterygirl said:
Hmm.......I'd just like to know some evidence of Kim being a mental case other than Alec saying so........

He says lots of things that are out there.
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Thank you. I'd like for someone to post a link that has factual evidence that KB is a mental case. As I said earlier, I have HEARD (no facts) that she's agoraphobic, that's it.
 
O/T, I was "googling" to see if I could find anything other than Alec Baldwin's words, that Kim is a nut case. I came across a recent picture of Ireland. She is a beautiful young lady.
 
His words on the tape to his daughter sealed it for me. I can't imagine how in the world he could of spoke to her the way he did. I think her Mother has a lot of grace no matter what kind of problems she may have. If I heard my ex talking to my daughter in that way calling her a pig.They would not be speaking for a long time.
 
I am not good with links, but have found a few articles about both Baldwin and Basinger. Supposedly he has anger issues and may suffer from obsessive-compulsive disorder. She suffers from severe anxiety, agoraphobia and may also suffer from depression. If the links don't work and you can fix them, please do.

Life of Drama for Basinger
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/life_of_drama_for_basinger_QOeqhZJDIPe2q826KBwaZO

Terror In Daylight: Oscar-Winner Kim Basinger's Secret Fear
http://www.personalmd.com/news/n0827102716.shtml

Too Hot to Handle
http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20133526,00.html
 
I suffer from post traumatic stress disorder. Panic attacks are hell.Never in a billion years would I ever speak bad of my daughters father or do anything to hurt her relationship with him. Maybe I'm a mental case? I have not heard her Mom calling her terrible names. MOO he is sick.
 
I really feel sorry for all of them.
Every family I know goes through tough times, the only difference is theirs is public for all of us to watch and ridicule.
Can imagine how Ireland feels to read and hear about her personal turmoil in the news?
Regardless of what anyone else thinks about her parents, she loves them both and I am sure she is just as hurt by what's said in the media as anything else.
 
ella971 said:
I suffer from post traumatic stress disorder. Panic attacks are hell.Never in a billion years would I ever speak bad of my daughters father or do anything to hurt her relationship with him. Maybe I'm a mental case? I have not heard her Mom calling her terrible names. MOO he is sick.
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I have panic attacks and suffer from depression. I'm right there with ya ella971.

I'll admit I have spoke bad of my children's father (once they were adults), BUT it was after they had already noticed his bad behavior. You know, well, L******, I'm sorry your father called you at 1:00 a.m., but you know he has a drinking problem and probably didn't think about he'd be waking you up. Sorry S*** that your dad didn't call you about your new job, but he has always been a selfish person and probably didn't think about how much that would have meant to you. In a way it was to explain to them that it wasn't anything they did wrong, it's just the way he is. I would never do anything that would keep them from having a relationship. It's all I've ever wanted for them is to have a relationship with their father, but there comes a point where you can't keep making excuses for the father's (or mother's) behavior.
 
lizzybeth said:
I have panic attacks and suffer from depression. I'm right there with ya ella971.

I'll admit I have spoke bad of my children's father (once they were adults), BUT it was after they had already noticed his bad behavior. You know, well, L******, I'm sorry your father called you at 1:00 a.m., but you know he has a drinking problem and probably didn't think about he'd be waking you up. Sorry S*** that your dad didn't call you about your new job, but he has always been a selfish person and probably didn't think about how much that would have meant to you. In a way it was to explain to them that it wasn't anything they did wrong, it's just the way he is. I would never do anything that would keep them from having a relationship. It's all I've ever wanted for them is to have a relationship with their father, but there comes a point where you can't keep making excuses for the father's (or mother's) behavior.
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Amen.My girl is 12 and her Dad is a good one. However she is starting to see how much of a robot he is. I sound like my Mom saying this but when she is an adult she will look back and be able to see it all.
 
ella971 said:
His words on the tape to his daughter sealed it for me. I can't imagine how in the world he could of spoke to her the way he did. I think her Mother has a lot of grace no matter what kind of problems she may have. If I heard my ex talking to my daughter in that way calling her a pig.They would not be speaking for a long time.
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I feel the same way!

That tape sealed it for me. It backed up much that has been written about him even concerning his behavior on sets before he ever had a child. I have read several things about his explosive temper.......but that tape just burned me up.....that young lady is just so pretty. She seemed very sweet and well mannered when he brought her to an award show recently.

My father would have never dreamed of speaking to me that way but I was blessed with supportive and loving parents.....I know how lucky I am.

If Kim does have issues.......her coworkers and those who know her have never spoken badly of her, in fact, quite the opposite. She just seems so much classier than Alec....
 
IMO we often look at things through glasses that are shaded by our own life experiences. I don't know what the truth is in the Baldwin-Basinger relationship. I do know that things are not always the way they seem on either side. Even viewed through the window of public opinion, there is enough dysfunction going around.

From my observations regarding the Baldwin family history (The Baldwins are a close-knit family-- both parents seemed to have a good relationship with each other and their kids while the father was alive, and all of the Baldwin boys seem to be close to and fiercely loyal to their mother) and Basinger's long-time estrangement from her mother (since resolved), I would tend to believe that there is some truth to Alec Baldwin's statements regarding allegations of parental alienation. This is my opinion.

However, it is public knowledge that he has anger issues, which would impact all of his dealings with his ex-wife and their child, especially if the parental alienation allegations are true.

I know that in all my years dealing with my late husband, stepdaughter and her mother, my husband and I never put the mother down. We would, however, explain to my stepdaughter how her mother has some issues with controlling her anger, but that she is being the best mother she can be. We would try to help the girl to be able to deal with her mother's behavior. It was the best we could so. Anything else would have just added to the anger issues and would not be fair to the girl. To a child, a mother and father are the only parents they know and they love their parents unconditionally.
 
FWIW, from one of Penelope's links, it states that her husband, Alec Baldwin, had a hard time dealing with her illness.

Soooooo, IMHO, anything he says about Ms Basinger, I'd take with a grain of salt. Now that he's angry at her, he's going to use her illness against her. He on the other hand,.............well he IS on tape. :mad:

JMHO
fran

PS.....My daughter in law and grandson went to the after party for the premier of Twilight a while back. She met and talked to Kim Basinger and said she was very sweet. (she had her daughter with her:))


http://www.personalmd.com/news/n0827102716.shtml

Even Basinger's husband had a hard time coming to terms with her illness.

``He was baffled by it and wasn't sure it really existed. But he has seen a great change in me,'' says Basinger, adding that she has learned to face her fears and has regained control of her life.
 
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