All Texas Equusearch-Related Filings #1

[The World According]

I am not blaming anyone. I was just stating fact. I am not aware of Jb violating a court order. Is there something wrong with the Judge ordering Tes to provide the documents in a secure environment?

Hello there, I want to help you. I have posted various and sundry explanations, quotes, links, indeed the actual hearings to illustrate what Mr. Baez has done, and I do not know how to be more clear.

If the judge rules..the decision is made..it is no longer up for debate...one does not have the liberty of ignoring it in whole or in part.

Mr. Baez does exactly that. He returns to his office and conducts himself as if he is confused or the matter has yet to be decided. Often it is on the courthouse steps that he says things to the media that wholly contradict what the judge just ruled on two minutes prior. I teeter back and forth if he is honestly confused or he hopes the media and the public wont catch on. Regardless...it is misguided.

It was ordered that he may not copy or memorialize the documents in any manner, that he was to go inspect them. So, in simple terms to not go and inspect them and tab them AS ORDERED TO DO...was a violation of the order. He continued to violate it each and every day he did not go, after he made the appointment to, canceled and never rescheduled. For eight months he has violated the order.

It was ORDERED no copying or memorializing of the documents, in whole or in part, in any manner , whatsoever, by anyone.That is very clear. TO HIRE A COPY COMPANY TO DO EXACTLY WHAT HE WAS ORDERED NOT TO DO IS A VIOLATION OF THE COURT'S ORDER.

He seems to have a very poor understanding or appreciation of what a court ORDER means. I am not a lawyer, but anyone can look it up. It is an order issued by a court that requires a person to do or refrain from doing something. .It means one MUST, it is not negotiable, it doesn't mean when you feel like it..it means within a reasonable time frame you MUST and when you are ordered something is disallowed it means absolutely YOU MAY NOT. Period.

I don't know your gender, but think of an Air Force commander giving an order to the Airmen....it is not a suggestion, it is not up for debate, they may not opine about it, they are to do it and do it now and there is no two ways about it.
In my opinion, for reasons that escape me, Jose does not understand a judge's order is to be respected and followed, unless and until the judge orders otherwise.
When you were a kid and you kept whining for something, and then you started up with "Why...why...why..?" were you told like I was, "Because I am the parent and I said so!" ?
That is how it is when a judge gives an order. Somebody..please tell Jose..he doesn't get a vote.

Believe me, he has violated other orders of the judge in this case, but for the purpose of this discussion I am giving you the documents example. Please don't make me list them, you know I can. LOL!

 

[LambChop]

Obviously KC has not taught her student (JB) very well. jmo

 

[lisalei321]

That would make me chuckle! I hope that's what it was. They could have given each searcher a code name ....:dance:

As long as it's not my WS name I'm good :dance:

 

[JWG]

The defense has done that true. The state has done that through sunshine.
In any event, the Judge has to consider Kc's right to a fair trial when making decisions. He may be angry that this is a circus, but he needs to get it under control. Obviously Judge Strickland agreed that the defense should have this option to use the press, otherwise he would have approved a gag order. Is anyone stopping the SA from asking the new Judge for a gag order?

Whoa there, Sea-biscuit. :bud:

You don't seriously think the state likes, much less "uses" sunshine for some nefarious purpose now do you?

From my seat on the sidelines, the state has opposed public disclosure when possible (autopsy photos, for example). Beyond that, when they turn material over to the defense they do not immediately distribute copies to the media. They wait for the media to come asking. Even more telling is the number of interviews the prosecution has done. I'm counting ... zero.

 

[Bittiness39]

I am not blaming anyone. I was just stating fact. I am not aware of Jb violating a court order. Is there something wrong with the Judge ordering Tes to provide the documents in a secure environment?

I understand what you are saying. The documents are not damning. It is what most believe the defense will do with those documents. If KC is say, innocent, then surely the defense has narrowed it down to a (not one of many) suspect.

But the defense, I believe, in this case is on a fishing expedition...they don't know what they are looking for and yet ready to point the finger at anyone other than their client.

This is dangerous. KC, if she is innocent, should know and be able to tell her attorneys exactly who took her daughter. If not, as most suspect, and me as well, she, KC is guilty of what happened to Caylee and the defense should not be allowed to poke around in the TES records to accuse yet another innocent person. JMO. KC needs to accept what she did and cop a plea. There are no other suspects. JMO.

 

[logicalgirl]

I understand what you are saying. The documents are not damning. It is what most believe the defense will do with those documents. If KC is say, innocent, then surely the defense has narrowed it down to a (not one of many) suspect.

But the defense, I believe, in this case is on a fishing expedition...they don't know what they are looking for and yet ready to point the finger at anyone other than their client.

This is dangerous. KC, if she is innocent, should know and be able to tell her attorneys exactly who took her daughter. If not, as most suspect, and me as well, she, KC is guilty of what happened to Caylee and the defense should not be allowed to poke around in the TES records to accuse yet another innocent person. JMO. KC needs to accept what she did and cop a plea. There are no other suspects. JMO.

Yes, and there is no way JB & Co can guarantee the personal details of 4000 searchers can be kept forever confidential - not around that master of leaks.

 

[Anais]

So, I was just thinking.....what if the files were all indexed with reference numbers and the personal information was removed? What would be the point of looking through the files if all you wanted were names and addresses? Would that make you mad enough to storm off? All defense wants is the search information and location of each searcher, right......? jmo

Exactly what I'd tossed around my noodle earlier! I just wonder if it is indeed why they stormed off!!! I guess we only have 2 days til we will find out as I am sure it will be addressed promptly now.

 

[logicalgirl]

Exactly what I'd tossed around my noodle earlier! I just wonder if it is indeed why they stormed off!!! I guess we only have 2 days til we will find out as I am sure it will be addressed promptly now.

I did read something somewhere that suggested the files may have been in NeJames legal storage area which may or may not have been offsite, and because the Defense team came without notice, they would have had to wait while they were retrieved and chose not to do that.

How would it look to the media after they'd alerted them to their visit? Just sitting around instead of being able to get down to business.....just saying...

 

[LambChop]

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/23242644/detail.html
POSTED: Friday, April 23, 2010

From the article-
Meanwhile, two of Casey Anthony's attorneys, Jose Baez and Cheney Mason, were spotted by Local 6 News at the office of attorney Mark Nejame, who represents the group Texas EquuSearch, which helped look for Caylee.

On Friday, for the first time in eight months, the attorneys visited Nejame's office and were caught on video inside a conference room looking through boxes of documents.
Although the attorney representing Texas EquuSearch said none of the 4,000 volunteers searched the exact spot where Caylee's remains were found, Anthony's defense team wanted to see for themselves. Shortly after Local 6 arrived at Nejame's office, Anthony's attorneys stormed off.
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It seems odd that Baez and Mason, rather than an assistant of theirs, would personally review boxes of records from 4,000 volunteer documents. Does anyone else believe that there was some other purpose for Baez and Mason to visit Najame’s (TES’s attorney) office?

It appears they were looking through some boxes of documents. The reason for them leaving abruptly is not known. So we are left to wonder what would cause them to leave if they had notified MN and were prepared to go through the documents with a paid individual who was schedule to watch them. Would seem rude on their part if MN made arrangements for a paid monitor to sit with them and then they just leave without going through the documents they claim they needed so desperately. Any guesses as to whether MN will be in rare form on Friday?????? Should we "suit up"????? jmo


ETA: From what I remember the original files were located in a storage area about 5 miles from MN's office. So these would be copies if what is reported is true.

 

[beach]

Any guesses as to whether MN will be in rare form on Friday?????? Should we "suit up"????? jmo

--respectfully snipped

I'm looking forward to hearing from MN and how JP rules in regards to this whole situation more than anything else on Friday.

 

[logicalgirl]

It appears they were looking through some boxes of documents. The reason for them leaving abruptly is not known. So we are left to wonder what would cause them to leave if they had notified MN and were prepared to go through the documents with a paid individual who was schedule to watch them. Would seem rude on their part if MN made arrangements for a paid monitor to sit with them and then they just leave without going through the documents they claim they needed so desperately. Any guesses as to whether MN will be in rare form on Friday?????? Should we "suit up"????? jmo


ETA: From what I remember the original files were located in a storage area about 5 miles from MN's office. So these would be copies if what is reported is true.

Thanks Pensfan and LambChop, I did not see that actual video - but if it's been reported like that, I'm assuming someone did. On second thought maybe they were just fed up because the files weren't in alphabetical order and they were looking for several files in particular and couldn't find them?

 

[tlcya]

I think they went just for show after raising such a stink and then getting all this internet flack about not bothering to show up and view them after all that insisting and pushing. So they get there, realize they don't want to spend the next twenty two years trying to locate anything pertinent (perhaps because there IS nothing pertinent), see the press has arrived and bails.

 

[sleutherontheside]

I drove over to my hair salon today and walked in without an appointment. When the receptionist announced my arrival, my stylist came up and told me she had other clients in the salon and explained that she simply could not squeeze me in for a 3 hour color appointment.

I stormed out so mad. She knew I needed to have my roots touched up since I was way overdue for an appointment.

 

[LambChop]

I drove over to my hair salon today and walked in without an appointment. When the receptionist announced my arrival, my stylist came up and told me she had other clients in the salon and explained that she simply could not squeeze me in for a 3 hour color appointment.

I stormed out so mad. She knew I needed to have my roots touched up since I was way overdue for an appointment.

Sometimes the truth is right there in front of our faces.......

 

[countzero]

I drove over to my hair salon today and walked in without an appointment. When the receptionist announced my arrival, my stylist came up and told me she had other clients in the salon and explained that she simply could not squeeze me in for a 3 hour color appointment.

I stormed out so mad. She knew I needed to have my roots touched up since I was way overdue for an appointment.

Sometimes the truth is right there in front of our faces.......

Amen, and I must add I need to remember to not bring coffee while reading posts. One would think I knew better after close to two years here.

Sluetherontheside's post had me cracking my sides. Thanks for the relief from reading some rather painful posts. :crazy:

 

[Novice Seeker]

I say go get him Mr. Nejame!!!!!:slap: Call Baez on the carpet. I would say inform the State Bar, but we all know what use that good does. While we're at it let's encourage DC to get what he's owed by Baez.

Then, perhaps RK could initiate any and all legal recourses available to him for the defamation and slander the defense has put an innocent man through.:thumb:

Perhaps Mr. NeJame could even collaborate these issues. Hey maybe there's an attorney that could start looking into the foundation formed out of Caylee's death, although both George and Cindy remain unconvinced that the body is actually Caylee's. Who knows what legal implications could come out of that.:innocent:

Novice Seeker

 

[The World According]

Nothing regarding TES is scheduled to be heard Friday, just the status hearing in general, is that correct?
I bet the defense is dreading the hearing, big time!!!!!
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlYSUlmxldc[/ame]

 

[Anais]

Nothing regarding TES is scheduled to be heard Friday, just the status hearing in general, is that correct?
I bet the defense is dreading the hearing, big time!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlYSUlmxldc

In an article I read it did state that Mark Nejame and officials with TES are planning on asking Judge Perry to "weigh in" on the matter due to their frustration with Baez et al and their game playing. They are absolutely fed up.

"Officials with EquuSearch said they now plan to try to break the standoff with Anthony's defense team in court.A source said officials with Texas EquuSearch want the new judge in the case, Belvin Perry, to weigh in because they're they are fed up with playing the waiting game with Anthony's defense."

http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/23270394/detail.html

 

[beach]

Nothing regarding TES is scheduled to be heard Friday, just the status hearing in general, is that correct?

In an article I read it did state that Mark Nejame and officials with TES are planning on asking Judge Perry to "weigh in" on the matter due to their frustration with Baez et al and their game playing. They are absolutely fed up.

"Officials with EquuSearch said they now plan to try to break the standoff with Anthony's defense team in court.A source said officials with Texas EquuSearch want the new judge in the case, Belvin Perry, to weigh in because they're they are fed up with playing the waiting game with Anthony's defense."

http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/23270394/detail.html

I re-read Judge Perry's Order and I really can't tell if NeJame will be heard tomorrow. It is a Case Management hearing and it is addressed to the SA and the defense. However, the Order specifically states for both to be prepared to address "Motions that remain pending and unresolved".

Maybe AZ can shed some light on what to expect.

 

[Anais]

I re-read Judge Perry's Order and I really can't tell if NeJame will be heard tomorrow. It is a Case Management hearing and it is addressed to the SA and the defense. However, the Order specifically states for both to be prepared to address "Motions that remain pending and unresolved".

Maybe AZ can shed some light on what to expect.

Quite possibly Nejame and TES may just file a new motion or complaint on the matter. Then again would this order by Judge S. be considered and unresolved issue? I would be interested to hear what our leagle eagles think of this.