All Texas Equusearch-Related Filings #1

[countzero]

I believe they are goading and trying to promote discussion which will yield helpful info for the Defense ...

Humm, IF the defense followed RHs advice, BillS's advice and those here, JB would plead ICA out! That's a lot of helpful free info for them.

Have you found a PHOTO of this man anywhere?

Was he in the photo Joy took outside the Walgreens or Wallys World with her and Jeanne? I thought I remembered a man standing with them. I could be wrong.

 

[Sparky]

Jerry Lyons Page 34

http://books.google.com/books?id=07...&resnum=2&ved=0CBoQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false

 

[nums24]

Interesting in the article it says:

Sgt. Jack Maple, who heads the decoy teams, is fond of saying that their work consists of "hours of boredom and moments of terror." It is a sentiment that all the officers endorse, none more than Jerry Lyons, who has endured many hours of boredom--feigning sleep on the subway--and one particular moment of sheer terror.

"I was sitting on the train," he recalled. "I was well-dressed. I had a yarmulke on, and my glasses. I had a gold chain on. I gave the impression that I was dozing. I felt something on my chain and I opened my eyes a little bit. I saw a razor blade at my throat and I saw it go from my left to my right across my throat.

And if you go to this link:

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/The-Crime-Fighter/Jack-Maple/e/9780767905541

page 2 ~ In our crew, only Officer Jerry Lyons had clearly out dressed me that night, and he had played the role of the drunk vic in the suit, the party hat and the gold chain.

It seems as though Jack Maple is writing about the incident in the subway and has included Jerry Lyons in his book.

Yes, Jack Maple eventually became NYPD Deputy Commissioner for Crime Control Strategies, I am assuming that he was once partnered with him.

 

[Sparky]

Yes, Jack Maple eventually became NYPD Deputy Commissioner for Crime Control Strategies, I am assuming that he was once partnered with him.

Yes if you go to the above post the magazine article tells all about what they are doing.

 

[countzero]

Is this Jeanene Barrett, the Mitigation specialist? This is from Joy Wray, apparently on an expedition to Walgreens with the defense team....:innocent:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-5Z9maU85c&feature=player_embedded

Ok, this is the photo I was thinking of. Andrea and Jeanne and the guy I thought we figured out was J. Lyons.

In the beginning of Joy's video (thankfully it's a short one and with the sound off one can tolerate it) she states the photo is some of the defense team.

ETA: NOPE, ThinkTank corrected me ... It's Mort S. Can't edit my post upthread. Ignore this please. Thanks all.

 

[ThinkTank]

Ok, this is the photo I was thinking of. Andrea and Jeanne and the guy I thought we figured out was J. Lyons.

In the beginning of Joy's video (thankfully it's a short one and with the sound off one can tolerate it) she states the photo is some of the defense team.

He is P.I. Mort S.

 

[countzero]

Thanks ThinkTank. I found the video, but not the discussion. You are good, really good. :dance:

 

[fla*mom]

Jerry Lyons Page 34

http://books.google.com/books?id=07...&resnum=2&ved=0CBoQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false

He has aged a bit in the last 25 years I can assure you that. Lost a bit of hair too. He is not a bad looking man.

 

[JSV]

OT...Rescue workers are in the process of rescuing the 33 trapped Chilean miners .

 

[ThinkTank]

Originally Posted by ThinkTank
I see that person found another blog to infiltrate with Defense slant, after they were told to STOP sleuthing TES searchers, and was BANNED from here!
I wonder if the Mods of that blog have been warned about this person?
They are also posting on Val's Hinky and getting some response from Val.
They are posting the same type of statements which got them BANNED from here.

I was just gonna say that lol...don't think Val is going to put up with it. He/she is also on FB...just sayin'

under what name?
I would NOT suggest clicking on the name though.

 

[The World According]

thanks to Nums and MM
Casey Defense Witness Backs Out Of Questioning

http://www.wftv.com/news/25370431/detail.html

<snipped>

A key witness, who could help defend Casey Anthony, backed out of being questioned under oath about falsifying documents, but Texas EquuSearch volunteer Laura Buchanan can't avoid prosecutors forever. She's under subpoena and she will have to answer their questions under oath about whether she made up a document to help Casey.

Investigators are looking into allegations that Buchanan falsified records to make it appear as though Caylee Anthony's body was not in the woods near her house on Suburban Drive in September 2008. That was three months after Caylee disappeared, and three months before she was found.

Buchanan was to be deposed by prosecutors for a second time Wednesday about those records. However, Tuesday, Buchanan backed out saying she was ill.

"It is certainly suspect and damning to the defense that all of a sudden she's too ill to proceed with the deposition," WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer said.

If investigators find Buchanan did falsify records in the death penalty case against Caylee's mother Casey, Buchanan could be in serious legal trouble.

"Were there any witnesses that can testify that they were at the location where Caylee's body was found prior to the discovery of the body and that the body wasn't there? That's the sole issue," Sheaffer said.

Sheaffer says, if they don't have that, they can do all the press releases and media interviews they want, but it won't help Casey convince a jury in that she's innocent.


You just can't make this stuff up!!!

 

[nums24]

thanks to Nums and MM
Casey Defense Witness Backs Out Of Questioning

http://www.wftv.com/news/25370431/detail.html

<snipped>

A key witness, who could help defend Casey Anthony, backed out of being questioned under oath about falsifying documents, but Texas EquuSearch volunteer Laura Buchanan can't avoid prosecutors forever. She's under subpoena and she will have to answer their questions under oath about whether she made up a document to help Casey.

Investigators are looking into allegations that Buchanan falsified records to make it appear as though Caylee Anthony's body was not in the woods near her house on Suburban Drive in September 2008. That was three months after Caylee disappeared, and three months before she was found.

Buchanan was to be deposed by prosecutors for a second time Wednesday about those records. However, Tuesday, Buchanan backed out saying she was ill.

"It is certainly suspect and damning to the defense that all of a sudden she's too ill to proceed with the deposition," WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer said.

If investigators find Buchanan did falsify records in the death penalty case against Caylee's mother Casey, Buchanan could be in serious legal trouble.

"Were there any witnesses that can testify that they were at the location where Caylee's body was found prior to the discovery of the body and that the body wasn't there? That's the sole issue," Sheaffer said.

Sheaffer says, if they don't have that, they can do all the press releases and media interviews they want, but it won't help Casey convince a jury in that she's innocent.


You just can't make this stuff up!!!

This video was refreshing! I'm sure the State had a variety of options to impeach LB, JJ testimony, the testimony of the other searchers in her group, perhaps phone and email records? I wonder if this depo will ever be rescheduled.

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

This video was refreshing! I'm sure the State had a variety of options to impeach LB, JJ testimony, the testimony of the other searchers in her group, perhaps phone and email records? I wonder if this depo will ever be rescheduled.

Oh wow. I am so ignorant of the law ~ I guess I thought subpoenas went on forever into eternity ~ just like taxes. The thought that she wouldn't be rescheduled never even occurred to me . . . Thanks, nums. You're always good at making me open my eyes and seeing new perspectives.

 

[Sooner Fan#1]

Originally Posted by ThinkTank
I see that person found another blog to infiltrate with Defense slant, after they were told to STOP sleuthing TES searchers, and was BANNED from here!
I wonder if the Mods of that blog have been warned about this person?
They are also posting on Val's Hinky and getting some response from Val.
They are posting the same type of statements which got them BANNED from here.



under what name?
I would NOT suggest clicking on the name though.

Well...you'd think they would change their name...on Val's site it's the same....I will PM you the name they go by on JB'S website......if you want...yeah...I ran scans and got some alerts...shut me down for a while. I use CCleaner and also the reg edit feature, plus Norton and Malware Bytes...Paranoid much LOL ?

 

[nums24]

Oh wow. I am so ignorant of the law ~ I guess I thought subpoenas went on forever into eternity ~ just like taxes. The thought that she wouldn't be rescheduled never even occurred to me . . . Thanks, nums. You're always good at making me open my eyes and seeing new perspectives.

I'm curious to see if they are able to reshedule before the status hearing. I believe the state must depose her before 10/31/10. If she doesn't reschedule before the hearing, I wonder what HHJP will have to say.

 

[Gaia713]

Well I liked what BS said at the end of the video that is does not matter if they find 4000 people that were on Suburban, if they are not in the exact spot and can testifiy that there was no body there, who cares. Whew.

I always find him to be a "voice of reason" when things seem to be getting out of control

 

[The World According]

"Just so all minds are clear, " Judge Perry said he will help them get any reluctant witnesses scheduled. You bet your life this depo will be rescheduled, just as sure as the sun comes up every morning!!!

 

[RR0004]

:waitasec: Seems to me, everytime that person (or personS) posts, on whatever site, they tip the defense's hand. They function like the defense's canary in the coal mine. The IS post in question here pretty much lays out what the defense hopes to do with these ridiculous TES investigations... but why would they want to alert anyone to what they might be digging for? (Not that we aren't pretty much aware and prepared ahead of time, every time, but YKWIM?)

It is all very :banghead: IMO. Agree with previous poster who suggested ignore feature, but want to add "take notes, THEN ignore." :twocents:

I really don't think it's the defense at work. It's just one contrary person. (IMHO)

 

[RR0004]

thanks to Nums and MM
Casey Defense Witness Backs Out Of Questioning

http://www.wftv.com/news/25370431/detail.html

<snipped>

A key witness, who could help defend Casey Anthony, backed out of being questioned under oath about falsifying documents, but Texas EquuSearch volunteer Laura Buchanan can't avoid prosecutors forever. She's under subpoena and she will have to answer their questions under oath about whether she made up a document to help Casey.

Investigators are looking into allegations that Buchanan falsified records to make it appear as though Caylee Anthony's body was not in the woods near her house on Suburban Drive in September 2008. That was three months after Caylee disappeared, and three months before she was found.

Buchanan was to be deposed by prosecutors for a second time Wednesday about those records. However, Tuesday, Buchanan backed out saying she was ill.

"It is certainly suspect and damning to the defense that all of a sudden she's too ill to proceed with the deposition," WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer said.

If investigators find Buchanan did falsify records in the death penalty case against Caylee's mother Casey, Buchanan could be in serious legal trouble.

"Were there any witnesses that can testify that they were at the location where Caylee's body was found prior to the discovery of the body and that the body wasn't there? That's the sole issue," Sheaffer said.

Sheaffer says, if they don't have that, they can do all the press releases and media interviews they want, but it won't help Casey convince a jury in that she's innocent.


You just can't make this stuff up!!!

Ya think some one in this entire mess will actually get arrested for pulling cr*p?

 

[The World According]

I do not know for certain that she did lie, so let me preface my remarks with that.
For the purpose of this discussion regarding if she lied will they charge her....I can give my opinion.

If, as and when it is determined that someone falsified a document in a death penalty murder trial and submitted it under oath as truthful, yes they will be charged and arrested for it. This is different than the misguided washing of the pants and spraying febreeze in a car. This would be knowing, purposeful lying, uner the penalty of perjury to prosecutors/federal officers and or police investigators.
I trust her lawyer has explained to her in great detail the consequences of doing so. Therefore, I do NOT expect her to sit in a deposition across the table from learned, seasoned Assistant District Attorneys and be in the same frame of mind as when she had Mort the interviewer in her living room. Much like I imagine what happened with Dominic Casey, faced with the me or them choice, I believe she will not dare perpetuate a lie when the depo continues.
When they presented Mr. Jordan with the various and sundry accounts of the folks that were ON HIS TEAM who detailed the exact area was under water, he came to a new understanding that he was "mistaken". You can imagine the same epiphany from her, and then some.
Just by her writings alone, it is clear she has followed the case with a deep interest and personal friendship with mom and pop. That tells me she is well aware of what happened publicly to Jill Kerley, how her entire past was published, nationally , including but not limited to her being a FELON, the drug charges, etc. To say it was humiliating would be a very understated guess.
The fact that Laura would contact Joe Jordan and tell him she is working with the defense, try to convince him he was with her at locations he knows he was not , when he has no idea what the hell she is talking about gives us clues into her level of ...... how shall I say this.....Ms. Wrayesque misguided thinking. Perhaps she heard of the thousands of dollars that Kio, Ricardo and others got for their short stories and photos and fancied her story as being worth life changing amounts to the tabloids. I have no idea.
The thing I do know is
she WILL have to complete her deposition
they WILL present her with ample evidence to contradict her claim and the document
she WILL have been advised with competent legal counsel at her side

and at the end of that deposition, in the words of Judge Belvin Perry, Jr. all minds will be clear.

Short answer to your question, if she lies to the prosecutors and if the document has been purposely falsified by her , will she be charged......YES. There is zero chance that could be tolerated, she would be held accountable to the strongest remedy the law allows, it would be swift and certain.

She will not do so, she will back off it it, like a scared kid, is my prediction. If she has lied have no doubt that she is ill over this. It is the kind of sick your grandmother warned you about if you tell a lie and then have to tell another to cover up for it. It is a guilt feeling in the pit of your stomach, that begins as emotional and can manifest itself to feel literally physical, it is also fear.
Nevertheless......if she has got a pulse, Judge Perry will order her propped up in bed on line with Skype and she WILL complete the depo. If Miss Kerley, dying of cancer is testifying, by God so is Ms. Buchanan.

Have faith in this Judge. He has dealt with people far more sophisticated than this crew and this is NOT above his or the prosecutors skill set to manage in VERY short order!


"Mea Culpa" is Latin for "I'm to blame." The literal translation from the Latin is 'through my own fault'.