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I was kind of wondering that too. Because in reading the order it is clear that not only did the original order not change, but that the defense was singled out for their behavior and extra restrictions were placed on them as a result?

Who on earth would interpret that as "defense can finely see the records!" I mean really?

The Casey Koolaide crew, that is who. It was the most brilliant display of lazy complacent journalism we have seen in this case. They looked at the demeanor of the lawyers exiting the closed meeting with the judge , listened to the defense spin without even going line by line with the old order and comparing it to what was alleged to be in the new one. A first year high school newspaper student would be taught contrast and compare. Perhaps some of you very smart folks could freelance for these places. It would be raising the bar, considerably, since you all are clear on the facts. Forgive me for being so blunt, but I call 'em as I see 'em.
 
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Exactly...NeJame and TES won..

The previous Order remains in full force and effect.

So what's New?
1..The Defense is ordered not to, basically, leak any information. PERIOD.

2..The location for the review of the files will be at a mutually agreed upon location between the Defense and counsel for TES.

3..If the Defense finds searchers they want more info on..then TES, the State Prosecutors and the Defense will attempt to determine if disclosure of the docs should be released to the Defense..if they can't agree the files will be tabbed and brought before the court subject to the conditions of the previous Order .Not sure if the Defense thought the Judge would include the State Prosecutors in this scenario..

4..The Monitor will now be a Magistrate.

:waitasec: I don't see how this is a Victory for the Defense..a Victory for TES yes, and IMO even the State Prosecutors..since the Judge has included them along with TES to determine if disclosure of information regarding searchers should be released to the Defense...


Great catch!!! I missed that!
This judge is brilliant. He gave 'em something to cry about!!!! They just never learn.
 
  • #1,083
Great catch!!! I missed that!
This judge is brilliant. He gave 'em something to cry about!!!! They just never learn.

ITA...I also loved nothing to be leaked directly or indirectly to the media....
 
  • #1,084
Maybe next time he files a motion Baez will try citing case law, instead of citing Cindy rhetoric.
 
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This is why I do not believe much of what comes out of the media. They love to put a spin on news with teasing words. The defense loves to use "half-truths" and want us to look for the truth in them. Hummmmmmm, kinda/sorta like CA and ICA do.

Unless it comes directly from the SAO, LE or the FBI it's just a spin story.

Be forewarned, this is only the beginning of it folks.
 
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ITA...I also loved nothing to be leaked directly or indirectly to the media....

I agree. But, what if it is "leaked" to JB's PI Jeremy Lyons?:waitasec:
 
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I also understand about the loonnng day! I've had an "H" of a week, but I plan on taking out my frustrations on Baez over the weekend.

I already have..I made a Tiramisu last night...and it's "resting" in my fridge
Now all I have to do is get DH to make a nice dinner:angel:
 
  • #1,088
So what exactly did JB get from this. He thinks he got what he wants as far as viewing the TES records (and obviously he does not know what is in those records because he has not seen them so could be much to do about nothing). AND he got BC to resign as BC was not having much luck controlling CA. Now CA will only have one attorney she can depend on....guess who that might be? Now JB will try his best to control CA which just might work because he knows how to shut her up.... ZIP IT..... jmo
 
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Well....reading between the lines here, but I interpret the "wording" in HHJP's Order and his request that they attempt to reach an agreement as a pretty big clue as to Judge Perry's tone during the in camera conference. In his honorable way, I do believe he let them know he has had ENOUGH of the BS and to get on with it. The defense better take that admonition of 'not releasing anything directly or indirectly' or somebody will be looking at a contempt charge. I would bet good money on that.

BBM
I sure hope so.
 
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I agree. But, what if it is "leaked" to JB's PI Jeremy Lyons?:waitasec:

I would think just looking at people's names, unless you know who you are looking for, and they could have done this before, you would not know if they had a criminal background. Defense wanted all the files with names, addresses, socials, I would imagine, so they could do backgrounds on everyone listed and in particular the locals... Someone from Nevada who was working everyday and could account for their time would not be good search material. However a local with an arrest record no matter how long ago or how minor, such as a traffic ticket, would be fair game. jmo
 
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Maybe next time he files a motion Baez will try citing case law, instead of citing Cindy rhetoric.

naaaah......I think he waits to be in court for others to give that to him.....:loser: Why qote case law anyway....this is a "special case" don't you know??????:blushing:
 
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I agree. But, what if it is "leaked" to JB's PI Jeremy Lyons?:waitasec:

That could be a problem since he wold have to bill JAC and then th names would come out...it would be leaking indirectly IYKWIM???? That could be a problem.....BUT by then I guess there would be a hearing???? Who knows! Still think they have way more important things to be doing for this case instead of chasing down SODDI and whatever else crosses their path....Wonder if HHJP would ever or has ever questioned what the heck jb had been doing all this time instead of depos????:waitasec:
 
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I feel sure Judge Perry is going to err on the side of leniency when it comes to this, in particular. They are just now getting a chance to look. Then, if I read the Order correctly ('cause I did it swiftly *swoosh*), the defense, Nejame AND the SA need to try to reach an agreement regarding any docs the defense tabs. (fat chance, if you ask me ;) ) If they cannot agree, Judge Perry will review them. then set a hearing to hear arguments and rule. I can't see all that happening in the next few days.

Somebody correct me if I misread the Order, please. Its been a looooong day.

I believe Judge Perry "may" grant another week extension to the deadline to review the docs ..... because there were legitimate Motions pending which Judge P had to rule on (the Motion to Quash the Judge's Order for example).

However, I did not interpret the latest Order to say that a Hearing must be set for Judge P to make the FINAL ruling on any files which the defense tabs and has the Special Mag bring to Judge P. Wouldn't Judge P. simply make his ruling without a Hearing? I thought the fact that Judge P. told all sides to work together to resolve any disagreements BEFORE they bring the files to him for final ruling, means there would be no other Hearings on the matter, that Judge P. will just make a ruling and be done with it.
 
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So if the defense team does not ask for and receives approval for an extension date for their witness list and does not catch their trophy fish in time ~ does that mean all this effort by them, the state, the court and all of Florida's taxpayers' money is/was for nothing? Has this all been for the benefit of the future jury pool, then?

So much drama and posturing and such a small chance of results!

I think they are playing a chess game, and thinking a few moves ahead, and "think" they are laying groundwork for appeal issues ....
 
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I don't get the connection? Just because TES also tried to help on the Holloway case ... and worked on the Anthony case .... what is the big story or connection???

That's why I think it's so bizarre!! The "connection" seems to be:
1. TES was involved in both searches
2. Both KC and Joran van der Sloot are both in jail.

They must be desperate for something to print, since this makes no sense at all!!!!! (unless there is more to the article which was not included in the online version?)
 
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BBM

Am I just not getting it? What did BC get that the defense is not getting? They have access to all 4,000 records, just like BC did..... :waitasec:

Well, the defense has been whining for the better part of a year now.
As we sit here today they have not deposed Tim Miller. Moreover, according to Tim, the defense has not even deposed the thirty two searchers that they were given info on so very long ago.

What they got Snaz is the kind of talking to you and I likely got from our moms, stop that whining or I'll give you something REAL to cry about, from the judge. Only it wasn't a parent scolding a child it was a very serious, learned, respected Judge who would be believed ;above reproach, if he made any complaints to the bar. In slag, The Big Dog! We're not on Hopespring Drive where Dominic and Hoover are easily led. If there was any misunderstanding on their part of his role, and authority, I bet everything I own, that was cleared up straight away. They are lucky, imo, he gave them the professional courtesy not to hold the hearing in open court, and remove all doubt for the public. It would be career suicide for them to disobey the judge's orders about not releasing any names. Those B plans they are used to falling back on has just ratcheted up.They are dire need of what I jokingly refer to as the emergency plan. My very, very favorite; thanks to Intermezzo bringing it to our attention, is now they not only have Mark to contend with.....now they have also Mr. George, Jeff Ashton or Linda Drane Burdick to chime in to the judge and opine on which docuements are relevant. This is especially hyserical, because Mark and Linda have studied the documents and hand picked ones, the only ones they feel are. Where they stand on any others the defense pulls out is therefore clearly going to be a resounding NO.

In my opinion Jose and Cheney, either alone or combined are way out of their league against these folks. I say that, based on results!!! How very many defense motions have the Assistant District Attorneys mopped the floor with? Suffice it to say a LARGE majority of them. It is sometimes painful to watch. I would be mortified to have the opposing counsel stand in open court and argue to the judge, the motion is replete with errors,from top to bottom, it is wrong on the facts, wrong on the law, it contradicts itself paragraph by paragraph, it ...well.. it doesn't even come close to the legal requirements, it should not even be entertained by the court. These are the type of things Mrs. Drane Burdick has said regarding the defense motions. Saying they are way out of their league is , in the words of Mark Nejame, "Overly generous in my characterization". Oh the fun he has made of the defense...it is tough to measure.

Even so, they should thank God and their lucky stars that Judge Perry didn't ice the cake with ordering the inspection of the files, as he did with the inspection of the evidence ....to be videotaped. You just can't make this stuff up!!!!

When you were a little boy, Cheney and Jose, did your Grandfather ever tell you to be careful what you wish for or you just might get it, in spades? Law degrees aside, it is the good old fashioned common sense that seems to elude them.

Yes, in his own style of talking, ( referring to Joe Jordan ), Mr. Mason uses the terms wood- shedded. That is my guess of what happened here. It was not a tea party they were invited to behind closed doors so he could compliment everyone on their fine lawyering.
As always this is just my humble opinion.

O/T For all the folks who are asking me is Tim my Uncle or something..no he is not. I just admire him so, and what the defense and Cindy Anthony have done to he and Mark is vile, literally vile to me.

For all parents and , a little levity


[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXgoJ0f5EsQ[/ame]
 
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Well, the defense has been whining for the better part of a year now.
As we sit here today they have not deposed Tim Miller. Moreover, according to Tim, the defense has not even deposed the thirty two searchers that they were given info on so very long ago.

What they got Snaz is the kind of talking to you and I likely got from our moms, stop that whining or I'll give you something REAL to cry about, from the judge. Only it wasn't a parent scolding a child it was a very serious, learned, respected Judge who would be believed ;above reproach, if he made any complaints to the bar. In slag, The Big Dog! We're not on Hopespring Drive where Dominic and Hoover are easily led. If there was any misunderstanding on their part of his role, and authority, I bet everything I own, that was cleared up straight away. They are lucky, imo, he gave them the professional courtesy not to hold the hearing in open court, and remove all doubt for the public. It would be career suicide for them to disobey the judge's orders about not releasing any names. Those B plans they are used to falling back on has just ratcheted up.They are dire need of what I jokingly refer to as the emergency plan. My very, very favorite; thanks to Intermezzo bringing it to our attention, is now they not only have Mark to contend with.....now they have also Mr. George, Jeff Ashton or Linda Drane Burdick to chime in to the judge and opine on which docuements are relevant. This is especially hyserical, because Mark and Linda have studied the documents and hand picked ones, the only ones they feel are. Where they stand on any others the defense pulls out is therefore clearly going to be a resounding NO.

In my opinion Jose and Cheney, either alone or combined are way out of their league against these folks. I say that, based on results!!! How very many defense motions have the Assistant District Attorneys mopped the floor with? Suffice it to say a LARGE majority of them. It is sometimes painful to watch. I would be mortified to have the opposing counsel stand in open court and argue to the judge, the motion is replete with errors,from top to bottom, it is wrong on the facts, wrong on the law, it contradicts itself paragraph by paragraph, it ...well.. it doesn't even come close to the legal requirements, it should not even be entertained by the court. These are the type of things Mrs. Drane Burdick has said regarding the defense motions. Saying they are way out of their league is , in the words of Mark Nejame, "Overly generous in my characterization". Oh the fun he has made of the defense...it is tough to measure.

Even so, they should thank God and their lucky stars that Judge Perry didn't ice the cake with ordering the inspection of the files, as he did with the inspection of the evidence ....to be videotaped. You just can't make this stuff up!!!!

When you were a little boy, Cheney and Jose, did your Grandfather ever tell you to be careful what you wish for or you just might get it, in spades? Law degrees aside, it is the good old fashioned common sense that seems to elude them.

Yes, in his own style of talking, ( referring to Joe Jordan ), Mr. Mason uses the terms wood- shedded. That is my guess of what happened here. It was not a tea party they were invited to behind closed doors so he could compliment everyone on their fine lawyering.
As always this is just my humble opinion.

O/T For all the folks who are asking me is Tim my Uncle or something..no he is not. I just admire him so, and what the defense and Cindy Anthony have done to he and Mark is vile, literally vile to me.

For all parents and , a little levity


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXgoJ0f5EsQ

O/T TWA! I LOVE that video! It cracks me up every time.
 
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