All Texas Equusearch-Related Filings #1

[The World According]

God bless LE, TES, and all of you donated and those who prayed. God bless you all! The entire one hundred thousand dollar plus TES search effort could all have been avoided if only we had gotten the truth.
I recall Tim saying how gut wrenching it was to be on the other end of the phone and have to tell folks TES could not help look for their loved one; because, this case had thoroughly depleted their funds. Can you imagine?!!!!
www.Texasequusearch.org

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George admits he knows the smell in the car is decomposition, human decomposition.
Cindy Anthony said , "She ( Caylee ) wasn't there when Dominic was there in November.
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"MY number one suspect has been Jesse" Cindy Anthony tells Yuri Melich. She continues "I believe Jesse know where Caylee is at!"

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Child of Mine , a beautiful Carole King song at Caylee's memorial, a memorial that Mr. Miller and the hard working, devoted detectives that lived and breathed looking for this baby for were NOT INVITED TO. That makes me angry.

 

[The World According]

Exactly...NeJame and TES won..

The previous Order remains in full force and effect.

So what's New?
1..The Defense is ordered not to, basically, leak any information. PERIOD.

2..The location for the review of the files will be at a mutually agreed upon location between the Defense and counsel for TES.

3..If the Defense finds searchers they want more info on..then TES, the State Prosecutors and the Defense will attempt to determine if disclosure of the docs should be released to the Defense..if they can't agree the files will be tabbed and brought before the court subject to the conditions of the previous Order .Not sure if the Defense thought the Judge would include the State Prosecutors in this scenario..

4..The Monitor will now be a Magistrate.

:waitasec: I don't see how this is a Victory for the Defense..a Victory for TES yes, and IMO even the State Prosecutors..since the Judge has included them along with TES to determine if disclosure of information regarding searchers should be released to the Defense...

You know friend, the entire reason the defense asked Judge Strickland to step aside was they wanted a do over regarding having less restrictions on the TES records, they wanted to be able to copy them in mass, then have the private investigators research the volunteers. So that backfired, big time.

It is just my opinion. I could be wrrr wrrr , not exactly right. Judge Strickland we are laughing with you, sir!

 

[CarolinaMoon]

I just don't understand the media hoopla about the latest order. If you go back to Perry's original order from July 21, it reads:

2. Counsel for the parties and for Texas Equusearch shall comply with the prior Orders entered by Judge Strickland on August 27, 2009 and April 5, 2010 addressing the inspection and disclosure of said documents in posession of Texas Equusearch. However, contrary to the prior Orders, counsel for both parties shall be allowed to take notes during the inspection of said documents.

http://www.ninthcircuit.org/news/Hi...ior Rulings by Disqualified Judge 7-21-10.pdf

Perry again supported the decisions rendered by the previous judge. The only difference is that he has allowed notes to be taken by both sides.

In addition, if you go back to Strickland's orders, only searchers who were within 50 yards of the remains site are to be considered.

4...If any searchers are further identified by counsel for the Defendant, CASEY MARIE ANTHONY, as being in the immediate proximity of where the remains of Caylee Marie Anthony were found, said searchers may be presented to the Court for an in camera review and inspection so that a decesion can be made by the Court to determine materiality, relevance and possible disclosure...

BBM
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20582267/detail.html

So, there isn't going to be any fishing here. All Baez and Mason got was some very strict monitoring in a neutral location where there will be no shenanegins!

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Great piece from the Orlando Sentinel on the battle of the legal egos...

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...-anthony-lawyer-wars-20100821,0,4101168.story

'Sometimes, between the noise of media appearances, post-hearing press conferences, court filings and personal attacks, it's easy to forget this case is about the murder of 2-year-old Caylee Marie and the life of her mother/murder suspect. The vitriol may subside for the moment after Orange-Osceola Chief Judge Belvin Perry last week called the various parties to a private conference to "discuss the tone of recent pleadings," according to court administration spokeswoman Karen Levey.'

 

[beach]

Great piece from the Orlando Sentinel on the battle of the legal egos...

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...-anthony-lawyer-wars-20100821,0,4101168.story

'Sometimes, between the noise of media appearances, post-hearing press conferences, court filings and personal attacks, it's easy to forget this case is about the murder of 2-year-old Caylee Marie and the life of her mother/murder suspect. The vitriol may subside for the moment after Orange-Osceola Chief Judge Belvin Perry last week called the various parties to a private conference to "discuss the tone of recent pleadings," according to court administration spokeswoman Karen Levey.'

Good, comprehensive article about all the attorneys. Thanks for linking it, Mrs. G.

Nice that we have a 'court administrative spokeswoman' confirming that the "tone of the pleadings" was at the heart of this conference.
Reminds me of when my kids would not stop arguing, I would quietly call them to the side and say, "Look at me....NOW. In the eyes. No more. I have had ENOUGH. Do I make myself clear?" :angel:

I LOL'd when I read this about CM - (bbm)
"In an attached affidavit signed by Mason, the self-described Board Certified Criminal Specialist calls NeJame's comments regarding his behavior, "completely erroneous, insulting, scandalous, inflammatory, and, frankly, libelous."

I don't recall Nejame saying anything about Mason that Mason didn't say himself. He only quoted CM's own words during the 6/21 presser and attached a dvd of it. Cheney Mason is sooo full of himself. Good thing he is not the legal genius he believes himself to be.

 

[logicalgirl]

Machusia, thanks so much for posting this article in Today's News - WS'ers read this article! If you are like me, it will give you "heart" that there is some sanity in all the craziness we hear from the defense.

A really excellent summary about the lawyers in the TES debacle and ICA vs The State Attorneys, and all the various players
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http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...,4101168.story

What do you get when you mix a heinous child murder with simmering public outrage, an insatiable media appetite and high-powered legal egos?

The Casey Anthony case.

Interesting article about the lawyers involved.
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At it's core, defense counsel's motion accuses the undersigned of being a 'self-aggrandizing media hound'. Indeed. The irony is rich.
His Honor, Judge Stan Strickland

 

[pip]

Allowing the defense now to take notes on those files seems to undermine the 'tagging' for Judge Perry's review. Whether or not Judge Perry says yay or nay, they will already have the info they want, and will weave it into their storyline as to how the body was not there. Am I missing something? Maybe I don't understand the order.
It seems they just wanted to extract info and to be able to take notes with searcher details, which could not be memorized by merely looking at the files. (Which is why they never showed up to NeJames office) What is Judge Perry going to review after the fact? The defense is getting what they want. :waitasec: Confusing.

 

[drip~drop]

Great piece from the Orlando Sentinel on the battle of the legal egos...

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...-anthony-lawyer-wars-20100821,0,4101168.story

'Sometimes, between the noise of media appearances, post-hearing press conferences, court filings and personal attacks, it's easy to forget this case is about the murder of 2-year-old Caylee Marie and the life of her mother/murder suspect. The vitriol may subside for the moment after Orange-Osceola Chief Judge Belvin Perry last week called the various parties to a private conference to "discuss the tone of recent pleadings," according to court administration spokeswoman Karen Levey.'

I am so curious as to what "TONE" means, refers to. :0)

 

[Mrs G Norris]

I am so curious as to what "TONE" means, refers to. :0)

Oh, what I would have given to be a fly on the wall during that meeting!

 

[faefrost]

Allowing the defense now to take notes on those files seems to undermine the 'tagging' for Judge Perry's review. Whether or not Judge Perry says yay or nay, they will already have the info they want, and will weave it into their storyline as to how the body was not there. Am I missing something? Maybe I don't understand the order.
It seems they just wanted to extract info and to be able to take notes with searcher details, which could not be memorized by merely looking at the files. (Which is why they never showed up to NeJames office) What is Judge Perry going to review after the fact? The defense is getting what they want. :waitasec: Confusing.

Allowing the defense to take notes plus imposing the gag restrictions means that they cannot do anything with the files or the information until or unless they can convince the judge to release it. The notes are there to facilitate the defense deciding what if anything they might need (as opposed to desire) and enabling them to at least attempt to make a case for it before the judge.

Those privacy restrictions that are singling out the defense make it extremely clear that the judge will be watching for any attempts to do an end run around him in order to 'Kronk" TES searchers from their notes.

 

[Aedrys]

I just wanted to thank all of you for clarifying HHJP's most recent order. I almost blew my top when I first heard about it and was worried that HHJP was worrying more about appeal than keeping those searcher's info secret (I just had just read headlines at that point). Thank GOD for you guys explaining it. I feel so much better now and just want to smack Baez and Mason for being such idiots in believing this was a victory for them.

I think HHJP is at the end of his rope with them. I'm sitting here going, "Come on Baez and Mason, just try HHJP ONE MORE TIME! lol.

 

[pip]

Allowing the defense to take notes plus imposing the gag restrictions means that they cannot do anything with the files or the information until or unless they can convince the judge to release it. The notes are there to facilitate the defense deciding what if anything they might need (as opposed to desire) and enabling them to at least attempt to make a case for it before the judge.

Those privacy restrictions that are singling out the defense make it extremely clear that the judge will be watching for any attempts to do an end run around him in order to 'Kronk" TES searchers from their notes.

So they can write down all the info they want and if the Judge says NO GO, they can't use it? Good. But, I guess we all know now what her part of her appeals will be based on. The NO GO material.

 

[wildchild1961]

I just wanted to thank all of you for clarifying HHJP's most recent order. I almost blew my top when I first heard about it and was worried that HHJP was worrying more about appeal than keeping those searcher's info secret (I just had just read headlines at that point). Thank GOD for you guys explaining it. I feel so much better now and just want to smack Baez and Mason for being such idiots in believing this was a victory for them.

I think HHJP is at the end of his rope with them. I'm sitting here going, "Come on Baez and Mason, just try HHJP ONE MORE TIME! lol.

IMO.. JB seems to feel that this case will be tried in the media.. hence.. all the smoke and mirrors. I can actually see his point a bit (I am NOT saying I agre with it.. just saying I can see it.. lol) .. if ya don't have anything solid to fight with.. sometimes smoke and mirrors is all ya got. JB is losing and badly. IMO.. the best he can hope for now...is a "political" win.. just to salvage a bit of "credibility". It won't fool most thinking folks.. but it might just fool enough for JB to get some clients to keep his practice alive.

wild

 

[The World According]

I am so curious as to what "TONE" means, refers to. :0)

The childish, disrespectful, wholly unprofessional name calling, etc that should never appear in legal documents.

When my mom used to say , "Watch your tone", that meant knock off that poor attitude, and sas right now...or else.
I get the feeling that when Judge Perry admonishes folks in the privacy of his chambers, they get hip that he is not , as my mother was not, one to make empty threats. Thus they emerged with the we have arrived at an agreement and you will not hear us mention a complaint about TES again, from Cheney. Too funny.

moo

 

[faefrost]

So one of their procedural deadlines is Wednesday. Has anyone seen the defense around the courthouse digging through document boxes today? I know if I faced such a deadline and I "finally" had the access that I supposedly wanted, I would be working around the clock to review the materials. The defense should have been ready to go with this the moment the courthouse doors opened. (Somehow I don't think TES would have had a problem bringing 2 boxes a couple of blocks.)

 

[nums24]

From the Murder Docket today.... now what?


08/26/2010 Motion to Quash Subpoena Duces Tecum

 

[strawberry]

From the Murder Docket today.... now what?


08/26/2010 Motion to Quash Subpoena Duces Tecum

Great...just when I thought you had explained it clearly, now I have to go find what this was the first time around because I forgot.

 

[mom_in_il]

From the Murder Docket today.... now what?


08/26/2010 Motion to Quash Subpoena Duces Tecum

Maybe the defense missed yesterday's deadline?

 

[nums24]

Maybe the defense missed yesterday's deadline?

I don't know, I checked the clerk's site, someone in the media purchased the copies today, so maybe we'll get to see it later.

 

[Paintr]

From the Murder Docket today.... now what?


08/26/2010 Motion to Quash Subpoena Duces Tecum

When I hunted this up it explained it as

'A subpoena commanding a person to bring books, papers, records, or other items to the court.'

What was the defense supposed to show up with? Their tabbed searchers for HHJP's review?:waitasec: