All Things Britney Spears Part 4

[Taximom]

Maybe he's growing up. I haven't seen any bad behavior on his part lately in the news, and you can bet people are watching.

ANYWAY, Larry King Live will be talking about Britney tonight. No surprise there.

 

[White Rain]

He's making a good home for his children compared to what? He's in the media and is a media just like she is said to be...and he seems to do it in ways to lash back at her..c'mon getting jiggy with herpehilton? After knowing what the mother of his children went through with her?

He's making a good home for his children on who's dime? Not his. That blingity bling he likes to show off I'm sure was not included in his expense report furnished to the courts more than likely.

He's seen at nightclubs getting groovy, getting his "drink on" and obviously he isn't the squeaky clean that he wants everyone to believe. IIRC wasn't he also given the orders not to consume alcohol /drugs prior to having the children as well as in front of?

IIRC it was him who brit kicked out for smoking weed in front of the kiddos. Now personally I think marijuana is way less dangerous than alcohol, but I don't agree with either being in front of nor around children. He abandoned his first baby mama to get with Brit..and had her knocked up before you could say "use a condom honey".

I just think she's one upped him currently which is making him look "good" but if we go back in the past...He doesn't have a good track record either.

I agree with your post somewhat...
BUT....imo Kevin hasn't really been seen out THAT much since the custody fights...and believe me, if he WERE out alot his pic would be plastered everywhere. I don't think he has partied nearly as much since gaining custody.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

What do you mean by self-medicating? Wasn't she being drug tested? I know of someone who acted just like her and the reason they pushed people away is so they don't hurt them. My friends son was
bi-polar and did the same thing. He ended up beating the crap out of his mother and those two were close as could be. After he came out of his episode and realized what he did he walked in front of a train and ended his life. I have a soft spot for people with mental illness and I think she for sure has something.

She apparently didn't show up for quite a few of the tests. I agree. She's got a mental problem.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

Will he get more money from Britney for their support now? I would think so, but I don't really know.

ETA: Just saw White Rain's comment.

yes, as he should, he will receive more money from Brit every month.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

But does she need to be locked up for him to get that much more money? Doesn't he just have to have primary physical? Is the consensus that he is so bad he would have her locked up for money? That is pretty serious charge.
This is in general WR, to those that might believe this is the case.

No, she doesn't have to be locked up for him to get more financial support now that he's got sole temporary custody.

 

[OrdinaryLife]

Ok, I'm going to be the odd person out here. But couldn't this poor girl be suffering from post partum psychosis?

She's had two babies basically back to back, a couple marriages, an annulment, a divorce, flopping albums, serious family issues, she doesn't come from a moneyed family so even though she came into money at a younger age, she was never educated on how to handle it. (In all honesty, it reminds me of the Eminem/Kim situation)

Compile that with living in a fishbowl..whether self provoked or not, people are entitled to some privacy at some point and I don't see her having any...period. Close friends are no longer, staff is constantly changing etc. Her own doing? Probably most of it is. BUT how can she seriously trust anyone w/ how many times she's been screwed over?

I think Kfed and his legal team are jumping w/ joy over this latest development. I don't think he's the all end saviour he portrays himself to be either. He's out at nightclubs, even when he's not "working as the host" getting it on w/ HerpeHilton EWWWWWWWW. That's not safe for your kids -(to be mouthing all over that and then come home and kiss your boys goodnight?) Drinking etc. I don't see him w/ his other children always being photographed w/ nanny in tow, but I Almost always see a nanny present in the photos of him and their two boys together.

do I think she needs help? You betcha! Long term? Most definetly? Do I think it should be here? (In that states?) no way. She needs to go somewhere (comfortable) but relaxing. While knowing that she can still "come back" just as a stronger, more emotionally stable person.

Even w/ her issues, if she were to have stopped in the beginning and turn the kiddos over to FedEx, she would have been labeled a piss poor mom still. Since she didn't and is having a serious breakdown, she's of course a piss poor mom. (IE No winning w/ people it seems)

My concern is if she is told she is losing her kids indefinetely (IE however long it takes for her to become stable) that's it - it's over for her. Sick or not, I really believe she loves her children, just because someone is mentally ill, I don't think they should be stripped of them (children)

What else does she have at this point? I also think she's so far over the edge emotionally that she can't think straight. So those that are truly trying to help w/o gain (does she really have any of those in her camp though?) She's pushing them away because maybe it's a defense mechanism?

Anyways, just my thoughts - I don't see it as a publicity stunt, but the breakdown of someone who is truly lost, and hurting, and doesn't know what to do to breakout of the situation. It truly is heartbreaking.

I have not posted on a "Brit" thread simply because I felt I was also the "odd person out". I truly think/feel the way you do and I so very much appreciate this post.

Having family members who are struggling with mental illness as well as severe post partum "depression", I cannot help but feel this is exactly what this woman is going through. Add in celebrity under a severe microscope, an ex husband who I truly think is out for himself even before all this began (poor, poor choice by BS), 2 babies within a year, break up of marriage (where I do not think any of us really know the dirt behind it all...), and BS was prime physically and emotionally for a breakdown. My own family member suffered and it was several years of meds and therapy that pulled her through. She is not bipolar nor does she suffer from any other mental illness. However, her last pregnancy/birth sent her as well as her family down a very frightening spiral. She is wonderful now, but it took time...much time.

I believe BS absolutely loves her sons. I also agree that KFed and lawyers are the ones feeding the frenzy. Post partum depression is not well understood and if it were the help out there would be quick. I cannot and will not judge this woman. So much occurred in her personal life so very, very quickly. More than she could handle. I will not blame her Mother. I think it is a shame how her private life is so under a microscope and KFed is reaping in the shambles of it. Once BS gets it together, she will have her babies back and they will know and love their Mom.

I wish her well and support. It's not her fault. It's not her fault.....

 

[White Rain]

I have not posted on a "Brit" thread simply because I felt I was also the "odd person out". I truly think/feel the way you do and I so very much appreciate this post.

Having family members who are struggling with mental illness as well as severe post partum "depression", I cannot help but feel this is exactly what this woman is going through. Add in celebrity under a severe microscope, an ex husband who I truly think is out for himself even before all this began (poor, poor choice by BS), 2 babies within a year, break up of marriage (where I do not think any of us really know the dirt behind it all...), and BS was prime physically and emotionally for a breakdown. My own family member suffered and it was several years of meds and therapy that pulled her through. She is not bipolar nor does she suffer from any other mental illness. However, her last pregnancy/birth sent her as well as her family down a very frightening spiral. She is wonderful now, but it took time...much time.

I believe BS absolutely loves her sons. I also agree that KFed and lawyers are the ones feeding the frenzy. Post partum depression is not well understood and if it were the help out there would be quick. I cannot and will not judge this woman. So much occurred in her personal life so very, very quickly. More than she could handle. I will not blame her Mother. I think it is a shame how her private life is so under a microscope and KFed is reaping in the shambles of it. Once BS gets it together, she will have her babies back and they will know and love their Mom.

I wish her well and support. It's not her fault. It's not her fault.....

I also think BS loves the boys...but I think she doesn't know HOW to be a mother. or a good one anyway.

 

[KansasCutie]

It's not her fault. It's not her fault.....

who's fault is it then??

 

[OrdinaryLife]

I also think BS loves the boys...but I think she doesn't know HOW to be a mother. or a good one anyway.

How can she when she is where she emotionally/physically is right now? My cousin, several times in institutions, medications until they found the "right one", and even shock therapy. This went on for 3 years after her last child. She could not be left alone with her children, not because they were afraid of what she would do to them, but to herself because she felt like she was the most horrible parent/woman. For what it's worth, she has four children and it was the last that sent her over the deep end. An RN. An educated woman.

It happens no matter what your status or standing is in life. We are human...

 

[White Rain]

How can she when she is where she emotionally/physically is right now? My cousin, several times in institutions, medications until they found the "right one", and even shock therapy. This went on for 3 years after her last child. She could not be left alone with her children, not because they were afraid of what she would do to them, but to herself because she felt like she was the most horrible parent/woman. For what it's worth, she has four children and it was the last that sent her over the deep end. An RN. An educated woman.

It happens no matter what your status or standing is in life. We are human...

I agree, but I meant that even without the mental problems, I don't think she really would know how to be a GREAT mom.
She had the babies young, not much of an education, and IMO not much of a mom of her own to learn from. Again, imoo.

 

[OrdinaryLife]

who's fault is it then??

I need to say I am not, on any level, giving BS a free pass of her choices. Please know, responsibility must be hers on some level. What I am saying is that some of her choices may have been influenced by depression. Frankly, if anyone of us have experienced depression, no matter on what level, we tend to make not the best decisions because we have lost a perspective that surrounds us.

 

[JinxieJada]

It happens no matter what your status or standing is in life. We are human...

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap: So very, very true. My parents had the "childhood sweetheart" situation. She left for the neighbor, in the summer of 04, wasn't happy was either killed/murdered w/ a gunshot wound to the head 6 months later (feb of 05) (still open almost 3 years later =( it was either self inflicted or her boyfriend/our former neighbor because they were fighting.)

My father couldn't live w/o her, became SEVERELY addicted to gambling, became depressed, we tried to have him committed but until he made threatening statements around LE there was nothing that could be done according to probate...Even though I went in there w/ his suicidal notes (I want to die, I hate life etc) 6 months after trying that he was found hanging in a hotel room downstate. (Fall of 06)

They had it all according to some, what they thought at the time was a good relationship, stable careers, good family life, nice home etc. But one little thing can send someone over the edge is what I discovered first hand. It doesn't matter who the hell you are!

 

[englishleigh]

I also think BS loves the boys...but I think she doesn't know HOW to be a mother. or a good one anyway.

I agree....and it's due to not having a "real" mother of her own, but a stage mom her whole life. I do think she loves the boys but she always puts Britney first, too, and you can't do that when you're a mother.

 

[CW]

On CNN Headline Nancy Grace it was just stated that her drug test came back clean and that she didn't have any booze in her system either. My heart aches for her since it's all pointing towards mental health problems.

 

[White Rain]

On CNN Headline Nancy Grace it was just stated that her drug test came back clean and that she didn't have any booze in her system either. My heart aches for her since it's all pointing towards mental health problems.

Oh I am SO glad to hear this...in one way...but in another way (to me, since I have suffered depression) it's even sadder. I have been a victim of both drug/alcohol addiction and both were easier to treat than depression, imo...
Well I am still battling alcohol, but I pretty much have a handle on it...anyway, my heart aches for her as well. Just goes to show you can have ALL the money you ever need/want and still be miserable on the inside.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

On CNN Headline Nancy Grace it was just stated that her drug test came back clean and that she didn't have any booze in her system either. My heart aches for her since it's all pointing towards mental health problems.

I believe that report was a mistake Windy. There's no way they'd have the tox results that quickly and even if they did, there's no way it would be released to the media. Its against the law to release medical information about patients without their consent. As Britney has no legal representation at this point, it cannot happen.

 

[OrdinaryLife]

I agree, but I meant that even without the mental problems, I don't think she really would know how to be a GREAT mom.
She had the babies young, not much of an education, and IMO not much of a mom of her own to learn from. Again, imoo.

WhiteRain, I grew up within a verbal, emotional, and physical abusive family. I only have a HS degree because "someday some man will take care of me". This is what I knew, grew up with, and actually believed was true. That said, I am a good person, a good Mom (frankly, who is a great Mom/Dad? Don't we always doubt ourselves regardless of how hard we work at it? I love *good* , plus it keeps me humble.), and I learned from instinct and love. I suffered from minor post partum depression after my youngest was born, but I was lucky to snap out of it after six months. If I were to have lived my past childhood in such definition, I would have verbally and emotionally beaten my children and never made sure they were safe or fed. However, I did not live what I was taught or not taught, as it were.

Again, I cannot judge her. I do not know her life save from media stories.

 

[michelle]

On CNN Headline Nancy Grace it was just stated that her drug test came back clean and that she didn't have any booze in her system either. My heart aches for her since it's all pointing towards mental health problems.

I am feeling bad for her, my cousin had mental issues and was a great mom then one day just snapped. We were so worried she had shock therapy and was on lithium and everything, she is fine now but it was a few years of hell and worry. Mental Illness is very scary and sad. I hope she gets better.

 

[White Rain]

WhiteRain, I grew up within a verbal, emotional, and physical abusive family. I only have a HS degree because "someday some man will take care of me". This is what I knew, grew up with, and actually believed was true. That said, I am a good person, a good Mom (frankly, who is a great Mom/Dad? Don't we always doubt ourselves regardless of how hard we work at it? I love *good* , plus it keeps me humble.), and I learned from instinct and love. I suffered from minor post partum depression after my youngest was born, but I was lucky to snap out of it after six months. If I were to have lived my past childhood in such definition, I would have verbally and emotionally beaten my children and never made sure they were safe or fed. However, I did not live what I was taught or not taught, as it were.

Again, I cannot judge her. I do not know her life save from media stories.

Hi Data....not sure if you've ever seen some of my past posts or not...but IF not, I grew up in an EXTREMELY mentally abusive household...physically too, though not as much as mental. Shoot I'd rather have been beat though than hear some of the stuff my dad would say.
I have learned greatly from my parents (as in what I didn't want to be) but I also had my babies early....aged 17 and 19. I also was an only child.
I wasn't a GREAT mom...I never beat, starved, or mistreated my kids...but I was impatient and still liked to go out and party.
I raised my babies alone (no daddy, no child support, etc...) for 5 yrs, it was hard...I yelled alot...but I am a so much better mom now...
But my own mom wasn't a good mom. She didn't know how to be. I didn't know how to be. What you learn (imo) begins at home. Eventually if that isn't working, you will begin learning on your own. I so hope Brit can do this.

 

[curves]

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap: So very, very true. My parents had the "childhood sweetheart" situation. She left for the neighbor, in the summer of 04, wasn't happy was either killed/murdered w/ a gunshot wound to the head 6 months later (feb of 05) (still open almost 3 years later =( it was either self inflicted or her boyfriend/our former neighbor because they were fighting.)

My father couldn't live w/o her, became SEVERELY addicted to gambling, became depressed, we tried to have him committed but until he made threatening statements around LE there was nothing that could be done according to probate...Even though I went in there w/ his suicidal notes (I want to die, I hate life etc) 6 months after trying that he was found hanging in a hotel room downstate. (Fall of 06)

They had it all according to some, what they thought at the time was a good relationship, stable careers, good family life, nice home etc. But one little thing can send someone over the edge is what I discovered first hand. It doesn't matter who the hell you are!

JinxieJada, I'm so sorry, what a awul experience to have to cope with, :blowkiss: