All Things Britney Spears Part 4

[lymom3]

My concern is if she is told she is losing her kids indefinetely (IE however long it takes for her to become stable) that's it - it's over for her. Sick or not, I really believe she loves her children, just because someone is mentally ill, I don't think they should be stripped of them (children)

I agree with most all of your post but those kids are too little to be subjected to her and her craziness right now. They are probably flat out scared of her at this point. When she is stablized then someone should be allowed to bring the children to see her for short periods of time. She has to become a person who is not scary to herself and others before she can reasonably expect to be able to see her babies. If she can't mentally get to a place to understand that, then she obviously is not mentally fit enough to see them yet.

It is very disheartening to feel that everything in your life is gone, taken out from underneath you. BUT, she has to find the will within herself to fight. If those children mean so much to her then she will fight to get better to see them and perhaps get them back. If she can't muster the fight for that, then she still has work to do for her.

I do pray for the best for her. At least she is more fortunate than many mentally ill people. She has money to get the best help. That gives her more of a chance than many.

 

[KOOL LOOK]

This story is a heart breaker. I don't hold Brittaney one hundred fold into account. She was young, loaded and used. Kevin 50% culpable, Britney 50 % culpable for the problems in their little families life.

There was no acting out on Britney's part til she was destroyed in the most tender time of her life, motherhood. Kevin, watch yourself, your held into account to buddy boy, when your wife falls apart, you ain't squeaky clean.

Britney needs to oust everyone out of her life, bring her mom and dad back in, and start a new beginning and get re-rooted in the basics, unfortunately most of us have to enter into the pit before we want to crawl out, but that's okay too. That's when we learn to humble ourselves. There isn't any humbling when your high on the mountain, only in the valleys of life can a person grow understanding, wisdom and strength. God be with this hurting, painful family.

I say, take the cameras off Britney, anyone out there filming while she's being put in an ambulance has no idea the harvest their going to reap.

 

[Floh]

Ok, I'm going to be the odd person out here. But couldn't this poor girl be suffering from post partum psychosis?

She's had two babies basically back to back, a couple marriages, an annulment, a divorce, flopping albums, serious family issues, she doesn't come from a moneyed family so even though she came into money at a younger age, she was never educated on how to handle it. (In all honesty, it reminds me of the Eminem/Kim situation)

Compile that with living in a fishbowl..whether self provoked or not, people are entitled to some privacy at some point and I don't see her having any...period. Close friends are no longer, staff is constantly changing etc. Her own doing? Probably most of it is. BUT how can she seriously trust anyone w/ how many times she's been screwed over?

I think Kfed and his legal team are jumping w/ joy over this latest development. I don't think he's the all end saviour he portrays himself to be either. He's out at nightclubs, even when he's not "working as the host" getting it on w/ HerpeHilton EWWWWWWWW. That's not safe for your kids -(to be mouthing all over that and then come home and kiss your boys goodnight?) Drinking etc. I don't see him w/ his other children always being photographed w/ nanny in tow, but I Almost always see a nanny present in the photos of him and their two boys together.

do I think she needs help? You betcha! Long term? Most definetly? Do I think it should be here? (In that states?) no way. She needs to go somewhere (comfortable) but relaxing. While knowing that she can still "come back" just as a stronger, more emotionally stable person.

Even w/ her issues, if she were to have stopped in the beginning and turn the kiddos over to FedEx, she would have been labeled a piss poor mom still. Since she didn't and is having a serious breakdown, she's of course a piss poor mom. (IE No winning w/ people it seems)

My concern is if she is told she is losing her kids indefinetely (IE however long it takes for her to become stable) that's it - it's over for her. Sick or not, I really believe she loves her children, just because someone is mentally ill, I don't think they should be stripped of them (children)

What else does she have at this point? I also think she's so far over the edge emotionally that she can't think straight. So those that are truly trying to help w/o gain (does she really have any of those in her camp though?) She's pushing them away because maybe it's a defense mechanism?

Anyways, just my thoughts - I don't see it as a publicity stunt, but the breakdown of someone who is truly lost, and hurting, and doesn't know what to do to breakout of the situation. It truly is heartbreaking.

:clap: :clap: :clap:

 

[JinxieJada]

I realize most/if not all of us know how serious of an illness this can be. And I know most are educated in what the signs are. But humor me for a minute. Look at this list of symptoms and then think of all the media incidents about Brit lately....

From pregnancy-info.net

Although the onset of symptoms can occur at anytime within the first three months after giving birth, women who have postpartum psychosis usually develop symptoms within the first two to three weeks after delivery. Postpartum psychosis symptoms usually appear quite suddenly; in 80% of cases, the psychosis occurs three to 14 days after a symptom-free period.

Signs of postpartum psychosis include:

• Hallucinations
• Delusions
• Illogical thoughts
• Insomnia
• Refusing to eat
• Extreme feelings of anxiety and agitation
• Periods of delirium or mania
• Suicidal or homicidal thoughts

And here are some causes although noone knows exactly why it happens...Maybe I should say contributing factors to it rather than causes.




Causes of Postpartum Psychosis
Experts aren’t exactly sure why postpartum psychosis happens. However, they do offer a variety of explanations for the disorder, with a woman’s changing hormones being at the top of their list. Other possible reasons or contributing factors include a lack of social and emotional support; a low sense of self-esteem due to a woman’s postpartum appearance; feeling inadequate as a mother; feeling isolated and alone; having financial problems; and undergoing a major life change such as moving or starting a new job.




anyone else see maybe a bit of a connection besides the two of us?

 

[Hopeful One]

I think the kids should be taken away from her. Yes, it's sad that if it truly is just a mental illness (I don't mean to make light of a mental illness, I just mean if it's that and doesn't involve drugs), that she would lose her kids. But the kids are the first priority. And it's not like she would have to lose them forever. My sister's kids were taken from her because of her addiction and now she is fighting tooth and nail to get them back. And she will, so long as she does what is expected of her. That's all Britney would need to do. Sure it would take time but the best interest of the children is THE most important thing.

 

[SieSie]

I don't know why this just popped into my head, but I wonder if Madonna has tried to reach out to Britney at all. Madonna appears to be a good mother and can probably relate to a lot of the things Britney is going through (fame and fortune at a young age, paparazzi, etc...). I wonder if Brit would accept constructive criticism and loving guidance from someone like Madonna - someone Brit can trust who she doesn't think is just out for her money, because Madonna has plenty of her own.

:waitasec: Just a thought I had.

 

[JinxieJada]

I agree with most all of your post but those kids are too little to be subjected to her and her craziness right now. They are probably flat out scared of her at this point. When she is stablized then someone should be allowed to bring the children to see her for short periods of time. She has to become a person who is not scary to herself and others before she can reasonably expect to be able to see her babies. If she can't mentally get to a place to understand that, then she obviously is not mentally fit enough to see them yet.

It is very disheartening to feel that everything in your life is gone, taken out from underneath you. BUT, she has to find the will within herself to fight. If those children mean so much to her then she will fight to get better to see them and perhaps get them back. If she can't muster the fight for that, then she still has work to do for her.

I do pray for the best for her. At least she is more fortunate than many mentally ill people. She has money to get the best help. That gives her more of a chance than many.

oh no, I agree her children are probably very scared of her right now. Well no, not of her..but of her actions of lately. Even abused children still love their parents if you kwim?

Im talking about FedEx's attorney or maybe it was his rep stating they are appealing for her to be stripped of all rights to the children. I don't think that even if that's their intentions, should be publicized. With her already fragile mental state, well to me that's kicking her while she's basically incapacitated.

However, after her "adjustment" period of what is it? Like 72 hours or so? I think someone should bring the children into the "dayroom" area to see her. Nothing long term, maybe a half hour? Just so she can see them..be reminded of them.. And they can see that mommy is "ok". They have to be wondering..even at their young ages. That mommy is getting help, or however it explained to them, and that that person that mommy was that night, is not who mommy has become.

Hope that helps clarify a bit what I was trying to get at?

 

[Hopeful One]

Isn't her youngest a little old for her to be suffering from PPP now???

 

[Jules]

I don't know why this just popped into my head, but I wonder if Madonna has tried to reach out to Britney at all. Madonna appears to be a good mother and can probably relate to a lot of the things Britney is going through (fame and fortune at a young age, paparazzi, etc...). I wonder if Brit would accept constructive criticism and loving guidance from someone like Madonna - someone Brit can trust who she doesn't think is just out for her money, because Madonna has plenty of her own.

:waitasec: Just a thought I had.

I read somewhere a while ago that Madonna washed her hands of Brit because Brit turned her back on Kahbalah (sp?) that Madonna got her into.

 

[Hopeful One]

I don't know why this just popped into my head, but I wonder if Madonna has tried to reach out to Britney at all. Madonna appears to be a good mother and can probably relate to a lot of the things Britney is going through (fame and fortune at a young age, paparazzi, etc...). I wonder if Brit would accept constructive criticism and loving guidance from someone like Madonna - someone Brit can trust who she doesn't think is just out for her money, because Madonna has plenty of her own.

:waitasec: Just a thought I had.

That's a good thought but I have a feeling that Britney is beyond being willing to take the advice of someone. She has serious issues here and it's going to take more than a good 'talking-to' to straighten her out.

 

[JinxieJada]

:clap: :clap: :clap:

:woohoo:

Thanks - actually I was afraid I was going to have tomatoes and squishy fruit thrown at me LOL!

 

[SieSie]

I read somewhere a while ago that Madonna washed her hands of Brit because Brit turned her back on Kahbalah (sp?) that Madonna got her into.

Ah, interesting, I hadn't heard that. Thanks Jules.

 

[Jules]

Isn't her youngest a little old for her to be suffering from PPP now???

I think she's been suffering from it and coupled with a bit of BiPolar she's over the edge now. I seriously think she's got lots of problems. I pray she gets the help she needs before it's too late.

 

[JinxieJada]

Isn't her youngest a little old for her to be suffering from PPP now???

My experience and understanding of it/with it...is that its like any other mental illness, if it goes untreated it only gets worse w/ time..not better. you may have "ok" days and even some "good" days. But you're never quite yourself.

I also know though that people have different experiences, Im only going on my own.

 

[Hopeful One]

My experience and understanding of it/with it...is that its like any other mental illness, if it goes untreated it only gets worse w/ time..not better. you may have "ok" days and even some "good" days. But you're never quite yourself.

I also know though that people have different experiences, Im only going on my own.

Okay, I see. I guess I was thinking you were saying it just popped up out of the blue. But it's totally plausible that she's been suffering from it for awhile now and it's gotten out of control... kinda like an Andrea Yates situation (only not nearly as bad). Who knows, maybe she was even on meds for it and stopped taking them or something?

 

[southcitymom]

:woohoo:

Thanks - actually I was afraid I was going to have tomatoes and squishy fruit thrown at me LOL!

We only thow rotten eggs here!! :blowkiss:

I've appreciated your input on PPP. I've no idea what the mental disorder might be. I have long thought she had PPD.

 

[CarpeDiem]

I do agree things have been bad since she had the kid's, but perhaps we're paying more attention to her problems because of them. She's been doing really impulsive, bad things for herself since before Kevin and before the kids. Perhaps all the other stresses just made the pre-existing condition(s) worse, more pronounced. Look at this headline and article from exactly 4 years ago before the kids and Kevin were in her life:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/3366529.stm

 

[JinxieJada]

We only thow rotten eggs here!! :blowkiss:

:hand: Please no! Those make me :sick: LOL!

 

[Floh]

:woohoo:

Thanks - actually I was afraid I was going to have tomatoes and squishy fruit thrown at me LOL!

As if!

 

[JinxieJada]

I do agree things have been bad since she had the kid's, but perhaps we're paying more attention to her problems because of them. She's been doing really impulsive, bad things for herself since before Kevin and before the kids. Perhaps all the other stresses just made the pre-existing condition(s) worse, more pronounced. Look at this headline and article from exactly 4 years ago before the kids and Kevin were in her life:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/3366529.stm

I don't know - Maybe - but even in the article he said it was crazy "let's just do it" thing. That one I think I'm going to chalk up to being young and silly lol. Heck look at celebrities 3x their ages that do it and then go OH SH** what the hell where we thinking LOL...Even better...us in "reality land" that wake up one day..although usually a bit later than a couple days and go "What was I doing?" hehe