Amanda Knox Discussion-Friendly Thread

[FergusMcDuck]

The case against Knox and Sollecito stands finally as Not Proven.

They were acquitted.

As for Guede as sole perpetrator:

Such a mechanical action is hardly attributable to the conduct of one person alone. Marasca/Bruno p. 25

The theory of multiple attackers is a judicial fact; "established in Micheli, confirmed in Massei, again in Nencini, and filnally in Marasca."

So we will never have jurisprudence of Guede as a lone wolf burglar, rapist, and murderer.

And we can thank the incompetent Perugia police and prosecutors for that mistake.

 

[SMK777]

They were acquitted.



And we can thank the incompetent Perugia police and prosecutors for that mistake.

They were acquitted because the evidence was not sufficient to prove the case. Not Proven is apparently the same as not guilty verdict in the US.

But even the 5th chamber final court's opinion was that Guede had not acted alone.
And they let stand that Knox was present at the villa during the commission of the crime.

 

[FergusMcDuck]

They were acquitted because the evidence was not sufficient to prove the case. Not Proven is apparently the same as not guilty verdict in the US.

Not Proven doesn't enter this. It is an Italian case and they were found not guilty.

But even the 5th chamber final court's opinion was that Guede had not acted alone.
And they let stand that Knox was present at the villa during the commission of the crime.

I've explained both of these already. Guede acting alone was not something the Marasca court was deciding on - it was already finalized and even if they wanted to touch it, supreme court decisions need to harmonize with each other. And Marasca wasn't a fact finding court, it explained how Nencini couldn't use the signed statements to establish Amanda was at the house while ignoring the total lack of physical evidence of her participating in the murder.

 

[SMK777]

Not Proven doesn't enter this. It is an Italian case and they were found not guilty.



I've explained both of these already. Guede acting alone was not something the Marasca court was deciding on - it was already finalized and even if they wanted to touch it, supreme court decisions need to harmonize with each other. And Marasca wasn't a fact finding court, it explained how Nencini couldn't use the signed statements to establish Amanda was at the house while ignoring the total lack of physical evidence of her participating in the murder.

Ok. Well, we are entering 2025 and the case as they say is history.

Amanda is married with two children. Sollecito and Guede are living their own lives.

Mignini has become Amanda’s friend and they exchange Christmas cards, and he met her little girl. Mignini made clear that Amanda in his eyes has matured into a very good person.

I and others will always have questions but that holds true for other cases lost in the whirlygig of time.

Amanda Knox prosecutor details their unexpected friendship after acquittal

Amanda Knox prosecutor details their unexpected friendship after acquittal

Amanda Knox and prosecutor Giuliano Mignini have formed a surprising friendship after facing off in court for close to a decade

nypost.com

 

[imstilla.grandma]

 

[imstilla.grandma]

“Living with a false conviction is horrific, personally, psychologically, emotionally,'' she said on the podcast. “I'm fighting it, and we'll see what happens.”

https://www.newsmax.com/world/globaltalk/italy-knox-slander-conviction-murder/2025/01/23/id/1196158/

 

[SMK777]

Amanda Knox fails to overturn slander conviction in Italy

Ms Knox served four years in prison for the 2007 murder of British student Meredith Kercher before being acquitted in 2011. But among a complex series of legal twists and turns, she was convicted of wrongly accusing a Congolese man of the killing.

news.sky.com

 

[SMK777]

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“Living with a false conviction is horrific, personally, psychologically, emotionally,'' she said on the podcast. “I'm fighting it, and we'll see what happens.”

https://www.newsmax.com/world/globaltalk/italy-knox-slander-conviction-murder/2025/01/23/id/1196158/

I guess this was the end of any legal measures that can be taken.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

Amanda Knox fails to overturn slander conviction in Italy

Ms Knox served four years in prison for the 2007 murder of British student Meredith Kercher before being acquitted in 2011. But among a complex series of legal twists and turns, she was convicted of wrongly accusing a Congolese man of the killing.

news.sky.com

From the article above. I was curious Mr. Lumumba's stance on this:

Patrick Lumumba, who was in the court, said: "I am very satisfied because Amanda made a mistake and this sentence must accompany her for her entire life."

Ms Knox was ordered to pay the trial's legal costs, as well as those of Mr Lumumba's lawyer.

*ETA: From a Toronto Star article below in regards to Mr. Lumumba (might be a paywall, I don't subscribe but was allowed to view article):

Arriving at court, he underlined that Knox “has never apologized to me.”

Italy’s top court upholds Amanda Knox’s conviction for falsely accusing innocent man of murder

ROME (AP) — Italy’s highest court on Thursday confirmed a slander conviction against U.S. defendant Amanda Knox for accusing an innocent man of murdering her British flatmate 17 years ago

www.thestar.com

 

[Tower]

From the article above. I was curious Mr. Lumumba's stance on this:

Patrick Lumumba, who was in the court, said: "I am very satisfied because Amanda made a mistake and this sentence must accompany her for her entire life."

Ms Knox was ordered to pay the trial's legal costs, as well as those of Mr Lumumba's lawyer.

I feel great sympathy for Mr. Lumumba. I think he was wronged as much by police (ignoring his bar patrons who backed up his alibi that the bar was open and he only tallied their bill when they left. Plus many other errors) as by Amanda. And the police have a much greater responsibility to conduct a murder inquiry properly, not coerce confessions from a young woman who does not speak the language fluently, etc.

The idea that police decided “see you later”
In broken Italian meant that she intended to meet Lumumba later that night is not following the evidence, but jumping to pre-formed conclusions. While Amanda made a mistake, the police detained him, botched the investigation and ruined Lumumba’s business when there was no evidence against him. Jmo

 

[Ashleym324]

I just finished reading through this entire thread and I find it so shocking that there are actually people who believe she is guilty.
I’m so glad she’s free, happy, doing activism work, and raising a family. Good for her

 

[Ashleym324]

Has anyone read her new book yet?