Amanda Knox tried for the murder of Meredith Kercher in Italy *NEW TRIAL*#10

[SMK]

I was just reading over some more of the tweet points of Crini's summation.

He views the calumnia as a strategy which was tweaked and developed over time.

He says Knox needed to add material to the calumnia, so she blended in bits of the truth (basketball courts, a black man, going to the cottage, an assault, a scream).

He accuses her of adding "dreamlike components": The blood she saw on Raffaele's hands (from the fish?). Crini says this a device.

He says Knox’s calunnia is a strategy protracted over time - developed stealthily.
Anyone not sold on innocence know what he is getting at? Does it hold up?

 

[redheadedgal]

Possibly, Possibly. But I keep thinking there is something else at work in this case.....time will tell.....or maybe not

hi smk... "something else at work"... are you comfortable saying more about what you think is going on?

 

[TorisMom003]

How do we know that the sock was used to move the light brown purse? Also in some pictures I see a cream colored material purse that is on the floor. This purse also appears to be rather empty. How do we know that Meredith wasn't in the process of changing out her purse and was then attacked? Was the cream colored purse ever tested for DNA or anything?

 

[SMK]

hi smk... "something else at work"... are you comfortable saying more about what you think is going on?

Well, I have increasingly gotten the impression that something big and political is at work here (not little politics such as Mignini's pride or reputation, etc.) - but I can't make it out:

How could this be? How could Amanda Knox play some role in an international dispute? I didn't used to feel this way. Until the book, and the interviews, and the experts, and the photos, etc. I know something "off" is occurring, but I can't tell what ("Something's rotten in the state of Denmark".)

 

[SMK]

How do we know that the sock was used to move the light brown purse? Also in some pictures I see a cream colored material purse that is on the floor. This purse also appears to be rather empty. How do we know that Meredith wasn't in the process of changing out her purse and was then attacked? Was the cream colored purse ever tested for DNA or anything?

Interesting observation.

 

[redheadedgal]

Well, I have increasingly gotten the impression that something big and political is at work here (not little politics such as Mignini's pride or reputation, etc.) - but I can't make it out:

How could this be? How could Amanda Knox play some role in an international dispute? I didn't used to feel this way. Until the book, and the interviews, and the experts, and the photos, etc. I know something "off" is occurring, but I can't tell what ("Something's rotten in the state of Denmark".)

interesting! i have never theorized beyond the "wanting to save face" idea... but that doesn't mean there isn't more at play here.

re: international dispute: did you know that maresca defended a driver who killed a female american jogger in italy in 2011?

i have to say it, does he take issue with things "americano"? afterall, 6 years on, he's still trying to put one in prison, and later he defends an italian after he kills another?

incidentally, the driver? his last name is stefanoni :scared:

http://www.dispatch.com/content/sto...-driver-sentenced-in-powell-womans-death.html

 

[Harmony 2]

I was just reading over some more of the tweet points of Crini's summation.

He views the calumnia as a strategy which was tweaked and developed over time.

He says Knox needed to add material to the calumnia, so she blended in bits of the truth (basketball courts, a black man, going to the cottage, an assault, a scream).

He accuses her of adding "dreamlike components": The blood she saw on Raffaele's hands (from the fish?). Crini says this a device.

He says Knox’s calunnia is a strategy protracted over time - developed stealthily.
Anyone not sold on innocence know what he is getting at? Does it hold up?

Reading the information above gives me an unsettling, niggling and sick feeling in the pit of my stomach. What a nightmare if Amanda and Rafaelle are indeed innocent. I don't think the truth will ever be discovered and it is such a travesty. I am sure Meredith would not want someone to be falsely convicted and suffer the rest of their lives.

Well, I have increasingly gotten the impression that something big and political is at work here (not little politics such as Mignini's pride or reputation, etc.) - but I can't make it out:

How could this be? How could Amanda Knox play some role in an international dispute? I didn't used to feel this way. Until the book, and the interviews, and the experts, and the photos, etc. I know something "off" is occurring, but I can't tell what ("Something's rotten in the state of Denmark".)

I agree with this sentiment. I sense it too.

 

[SMK]

interesting! i have never theorized beyond the "wanting to save face" idea... but that doesn't mean there isn't more at play here.

re: international dispute: did you know that maresca defended a driver who killed a female american jogger in italy in 2011?

i have to say it, does he take issue with things "americano"? afterall, 6 years on, he's still trying to put one in prison, and later he defends an italian after he kills another?

incidentally, the driver? his last name is stefanoni :scared:

http://www.dispatch.com/content/sto...-driver-sentenced-in-powell-womans-death.html

wow - that is a weird coincidence. .... Yes, sort of like America and Italy in some strange kind of war. Mignini, too - just the polar opposite of the American media types. .... It's just a very odd thing. The amount of experts willing to give of their expertise. And the books, I find unusual. Something just seems to have arisen which I hadn't expected.

 

[SMK]

Reading the information above gives me an unsettling, niggling and sick feeling in the pit of my stomach. What a nightmare if Amanda and Rafaelle are indeed innocent. I don't think the truth will ever be discovered and it is such a travesty. I am sure Meredith would not want someone to be falsely convicted and suffer the rest of their lives.



I agree with this sentiment. I sense it too.

Yes , I would agree, if innocent. It's a strange thing, that Meredith herself is the only one who really can tell the truth about what happened that night - and she has been silenced. And thank you for confirming what I have been sensing.

 

[SMK]

Correction: I did not mean Meredith alone could tell the truth, but that it would be believed. If she could speak, she could clear the whole thing up in an instant.

 

[Amber29]

How do we know that the sock was used to move the light brown purse? Also in some pictures I see a cream colored material purse that is on the floor. This purse also appears to be rather empty. How do we know that Meredith wasn't in the process of changing out her purse and was then attacked? Was the cream colored purse ever tested for DNA or anything?

We don't know that is why the sock is there but it's kinda odd placement if it wasn't put there and used intentionally.
http://perugiamurderfile.org/gallery/image_page.php?album_id=21&image_id=3398

And the switching out purses is plausible IMO thanks for that

 

[quesarita]

Correction: I did not mean Meredith alone could tell the truth, but that it would be believed. If she could speak, she could clear the whole thing up in an instant.

I've always thought Rudy could clear up a lot if he wanted to.

 

[quesarita]

And in fact, I can think of no good reason for him to protect Amanda and Raffaele.

 

[redheadedgal]

snipped by rehead for brevity

3. The pro-guilt sites keep taking Knox to task, citing her book quotes
as in today's post: http://truejustice.org/ee/index.php

the post (and site) you refer to is a joke!

just casually reading the latest entry, i saw these errors (lies):

--amanda is a fool to take her complaint to the ECHR b/c it's too late to do so
(wouldn't amanda's lawyers ensure the application is filed appropriately? and on time? i would suggest it is those @ TJMK who misinterpret/misread/fail to read the guidelines)

--amanda told many versions of being hit by ficarra
(all versions cited are basically the same and missed details in one doesn't negate it or any other)

--amanda is at fault for AD -the interpreter- being called to the police so late at night b/c she's the only one not fluent in italian
(well duh! OF COURSE that's why she needed an interpreter. BUT TO BLAME HER FOR NEEDING ONE? and why be an interpreter if one complains about being called/asked to "interpret"?)

--amanda is also at fault for the calling of AD b/c she chose to accompany RS to the police
(but police asked to talk to her anyway!)


who writes this bizarre, delusional, ficticious garbage?

 

[MichaelSmith]

Thank you I could not remember but I thought that was the case about her carrying another bag.

I wonder what was actually in the purse on her bed and why the sock was used to move it.

An Ipod.

 

[Katody]

wow - that is a weird coincidence. .... Yes, sort of like America and Italy in some strange kind of war. Mignini, too - just the polar opposite of the American media types. .... It's just a very odd thing. The amount of experts willing to give of their expertise. And the books, I find unusual. Something just seems to have arisen which I hadn't expected.

But that's the sentiment of many in Italy.
just look up:

Strage del Cermis

Strage di Ustica

23 American CIA convicted in Milan in 2009

 

[redheadedgal]

Yes , I would agree, if innocent. It's a strange thing, that Meredith herself is the only one who really can tell the truth about what happened that night - and she has been silenced. And thank you for confirming what I have been sensing.

Correction: I did not mean Meredith alone could tell the truth, but that it would be believed. If she could speak, she could clear the whole thing up in an instant.

i think we all know what you meant in the first quote... it's all good.

and what i said in my earlier post, about the TJMK site being "a joke"... i was in no way implying anything about you for referencing it. just want to be clear

 

[MichaelSmith]

Guede goes free in a few weeks due to some rule change.

http://www.giornaledellumbria.it/article/article144983.html

 

[SMK]

i think we all know what you meant in the first quote... it's all good.

and what i said in my earlier post, about the TJMK site being "a joke"... i was in no way implying anything about you for referencing it. just want to be clear

I understand - I take all I read there with a huge grain of salt

 

[SMK]

I've always thought Rudy could clear up a lot if he wanted to.

If he was the lone wolf, he will never admit it. Because it means the rulings about multiple attackers were wrong, and that he received far too short a sentence.