Amanda Knox tried for the murder of Meredith Kercher in Italy *NEW TRIAL* #2

[rose222]

Hi all, just have to post this before I leave:

Amanda Knox Interview with Diane Sawyer Part 3 Full interview - YouTube

In the Diane Sawyer interview, at :12 seconds when asked the 3 questions if she killed Meredith or involved or does she know something about it, I do not believe her answers, especially to question 3. Something about the way she says them doesn't look right. And also, to the question is there any information you know which you haven't told police, she says no and then adds, "I wasn't there." The "I wasn't there" part struck me, I can't figure out why. I would have said something like, "Of course not!! How would I know anything, I was just sitting at my boyfriend's house, I had no idea what was happening to her!!" Instead she says "no...(long pause)..I wasn't there" (with a raised eyebrow which I found odd, as if she was trying too hard to be convincing). As if the only reason she doesn't have any information for the police is because she "wasn't there," which just happens to be the thing that the prosecutors CAN"T PROVE. How convenient. NOT that she didn't have any information b/c she had no idea what was going on and how could she possibly have any information, but because she "wasn't there."

But I have to add that I found the rest of her interview to be belieavable in terms of her delivery of it, I didn't feel like she was acting, except in the parts when discussing Meredith. Those parts there was definately some over-acting going on. But as far as the (little) detail Diane Sawyer asked her about, she seemed convincing. However, not like Diane asked her any tough questions, such as answers to different details - the things she asked were pretty obvious (like why did you lie about Lumumbo), so I'm sure Amanda and her defense and PR team had already rehearsed those.

This isn't evidence but to me she looks guilty. She is not able to show any real emotion when it comes to the murder and Meredith. She looks angry when she says 'I wasn't there' as though we're not supposed to suspect her at all. When she talks about her family and herself oh do the genuine tears come rolling out.

Again, this isn't evidence but she has killer eyes. Just look at her photos post-murder. Her eyes are so strange.

 

[rose222]

I do feel at times that many Americans support Knox merely because she herself is American. I can never understand that. Poor Meredith suffered so much. She felt pain just like Caylee Anthony and Travis Alexander. Her blood (the poor girl bled to death) was no different from theirs. Right is right and wrong is wrong no matter what nationality, race, religion...

 

[rose222]

I watched an interview with Knox's father. He says after the first trial that the jurors did not look at him at all. As though that were a sign of their wrong doing. They were probably too disgusted to look at Knox or her family.

 

[rachaellouise]

As if the jurors owe him a look!

 

[rose222]

Here's a good one for you guys. Big headlines today that state in bold letters " No Amanda Knox DNA at Meredith Kercher murder scene" as though it were fact. Actually what they mean is that is what the Defense claims.

Anything to sell papers I guess...

 

[sherlockh]

Here's a good one for you guys. Big headlines today that state in bold letters " No Amanda Knox DNA at Meredith Kercher murder scene" as though it were fact. Actually what they mean is that is what the Defense claims.

Anything to sell papers I guess...

Yah, that is an old one. As if that means anything. Besides they not mean the murder scene but the victim's room. Oh well.

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http://themurderofmeredithkercher.c...Knox.27s_DNA_was_not_found_at_the_crime_scene

 

[Footwarrior]

I do feel at times that many Americans support Knox merely because she herself is American. I can never understand that. Poor Meredith suffered so much. She felt pain just like Caylee Anthony and Travis Alexander. Her blood (the poor girl bled to death) was no different from theirs. Right is right and wrong is wrong no matter what nationality, race, religion...

No, we support Amanda because she wasn't involved in the murder of Meredith.

Noted criminal profiler John Douglas said:

... none of the behavioral or forensic evidence leads to Amanda and Raffaele. There's no history or experience related to violence or mental illness in their backgrounds. None of the behavioral or forensic evidence leads to them. This is not a case of serial killers, cold blooded murderers. They used marijuana, but that&#8217;s not some hard core drug that will change a normal personality.They should&#8217;ve walked out of there.

The forensic evidence shows that Meredith died shortly after she arrived home. At a time when Amanda was a half kilometer away watching a movie and a video with Raffaele.

What went wrong with this case is also rather clear. It's called investigator tunnel vision. The investigators decided that Amanda was guilty based on behavior. From that point on, they only looked for evidence supporting that conclusion.

 

[otto]

Don't forget about Levi Chavez! Boy, these murderers seem to think of everything but they just can't get around that pesky cell phone problem! No way to get around that. Only solution is they have to turn off their phones...haha. They think of everything like not keeping texts, etc. etc., but when it comes time to do the deed they have no choice but to just turn it off.

That's an interesting point ... that now a "turned off" cell phone can be interpreted as involvement in a crime. When cell phones first became popular, the cell phone had to remain on, and ping off a cell tower to implicate someone in a crime. Now everyone has a cell phone and everyone uses it 100% of the time ... to the extent that having the phone turned off is now suspicious.

I find that to be an interesting paradigm shift.

 

[otto]

No, we support Amanda because she wasn't involved in the murder of Meredith.

Noted criminal profiler John Douglas said:


The forensic evidence shows that Meredith died shortly after she arrived home. At a time when Amanda was a half kilometer away watching a movie and a video with Raffaele.

What went wrong with this case is also rather clear. It's called investigator tunnel vision. The investigators decided that Amanda was From that point on, they only looked for evidence supporting that conclusion.

BBM

The above bold statement is actually not true. It is not known when Meredith was murdered, other than it happened between 9 PM and midnight. Her father called her cell phone shortly after midnight and it pinged off another tower - so it was already removed from the scene (the cottage) of the crime ... meaning that the assault occurred before midnight. Investigators have attempted to understand the circumstantial evidence to determine a time of death - like the scream, the running up the metal stairs, Guede running through the streets, the irregularities and lies about Sollecito's computer use, and so on, but there is no known time of death.

 

[rose222]

The Massei Report

"The time of death can be said to be within a ten hour time window of between 18.50 hrs on 1st November and 04.50 hrs on 2nd November. The court and all the consultants and experts agreed on this time window [Page 179]. The mid point of this window is 23.50 hrs on 1st November. Meredith was last seen alive by her friends at 21.00 hrs on 1st November 2007.

However, forensic medical evidence is only one aspect of this case. Evidence with regards to biological trace evidence, telephones, computers and witness statements, for example were also introduced to the court and are detailed in the Massei Report. After careful consideration and weighing of all the facts the court concluded that Rudy Guede, Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito entered the house at 7 Via della Pergola at around 23.00 hrs [Page 361] and Meredith was murdered shortly after 23.30 on 1st November 2007 [Page 382] "

http://www.truejustice.org/ee/index.php?/tjmk/C441/

 

[Harmony 2]

The evidence collection was horrendously compromised and is evident in this video recording of the forensic team gathering evidence at the scene...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=APLa0lBfTLo

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crime scene collection guidelines:

http://www.crime-scene-investigator.net/collect.html

 

[Footwarrior]

BBM

The above bold statement is actually not true. It is not known when Meredith was murdered, other than it happened between 9 PM and midnight. Her father called her cell phone shortly after midnight and it pinged off another tower - so it was already removed from the scene (the cottage) of the crime ... meaning that the assault occurred before midnight. Investigators have attempted to understand the circumstantial evidence to determine a time of death - like the scream, the running up the metal stairs, Guede running through the streets, the irregularities and lies about Sollecito's computer use, and so on, but there is no known time of death.

The five witnesses associated with the broken down car were present from about 10:30 to perhaps 11:15. Two in the car in the parking lot entrance directly across the street, two friends in a car that was parked in the cottage driveway and a tow truck driver. The cottage as dark and quiet, as if nobody was home. If Meredith was alive at this time, what was she doing? Why didn't she do any of the things we might expect her to have done after coming home?

 

[dog.gone.cute]

I do feel at times that many Americans support Knox merely because she herself is American. I can never understand that. Poor Meredith suffered so much. She felt pain just like Caylee Anthony and Travis Alexander. Her blood (the poor girl bled to death) was no different from theirs. Right is right and wrong is wrong no matter what nationality, race, religion...

:goodpost: Good points, rose ... and I agree !

The Americans were "duped" about Knox : her family hired a very expensive PR Firm, which "spun" the "Knox story" to the US media, which was then relayed to the American public ...

American journalism has reached an all time low -- and this case is a PRIME example, IMO ...

:moo:

 

[sherlockh]

The evidence collection was horrendously compromised and is evident in this video recording of the forensic team gathering evidence at the scene...

Horrendously? How many evidence collection videos have you compared to make such judgements? I am sure there is always room for improvement but it does not explain away any of the evidence.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

I watched an interview with Knox's father. He says after the first trial that the jurors did not look at him at all. As though that were a sign of their wrong doing. They were probably too disgusted to look at Knox or her family.

As if the jurors owe him a look!

BBM: Exactly ... the jurors owed him NOTHING !

Curt Knox, Edda Mellas and their family's behavior was appalling, IMO :banghead:

:moo:

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Here's a good one for you guys. Big headlines today that state in bold letters " No Amanda Knox DNA at Meredith Kercher murder scene" as though it were fact. Actually what they mean is that is what the Defense claims.

Anything to sell papers I guess...

:waitasec: :waitasec: Let me guess, rose ... had to be US Media "headlines" ...

Again, US media journalism is the lowest of the lows when it comes to reporting this case ...

:moo:

 

[rose222]

:waitasec: :waitasec: Let me guess, rose ... had to be US Media "headlines" ...

Again, US media journalism is the lowest of the lows when it comes to reporting this case ...

:moo:

Yes, yes! And the funny thing is they are busy bashing Italian everything. Hey it's not so bad over there in Italy!

 

[dog.gone.cute]

From : http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/30/amanda-knox-trial_n_4015320.html

The bar owner, Diya `'Patrick" Lumumba, showed up at the trial Monday, saying he did so to underline the damage he suffered from Knox's false accusations.

"I say the same thing I said six years ago. I think she is guilty, and that is why she slandered me," Lumumba told reporters.


BBM: Great statement from Patrick Lumumba !

 

[rose222]

From : http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/30/amanda-knox-trial_n_4015320.html

The bar owner, Diya `'Patrick" Lumumba, showed up at the trial Monday, saying he did so to underline the damage he suffered from Knox's false accusations.

"I say the same thing I said six years ago. I think she is guilty, and that is why she slandered me," Lumumba told reporters.


BBM: Great statement from Patrick Lumumba !

She hasn't given him a cent even with her new book and all.

I'm so glad you suggested that I don't buy her book back when I was undecided about this case. Thanks.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

She hasn't given him a cent even with her new book and all.

I'm so glad you suggested that I don't buy her book back when I was undecided about this case. Thanks.

BBM: Yep, not one cent ... :banghead: Knox is totally ignoring Patrick Lumumba -- and -- the court order !

I'm glad you didn't buy Knox's book Waiting to Be Sold :doh: I mean Waiting to Be Heard ...

It is a HUGE flop ...

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