Amanda Knox tried for the murder of Meredith Kercher in Italy *NEW TRIAL*#9

[otto]

He's not Meredith's lawyer, he's the lawyer retained by the Kercher family to secure them a massive multi million euro payout. They won't get that if penniless Rudy Guede is convicted on his own.

Could you please provide a link to support the claim that, in Italy, the victim is not represented by a lawyer during the trial.

 

[Cappuccino]

I think we need proof in the form of a link before the victim's lawyer should be labelled a liar. A link to the current, updated blog that Knox publishes is not sufficient, as we all know that it takes mere seconds to change the content on a blog.

I think we need proof from you in the form of a screenshot before we accept your completely unsubstantiated charge that Amanda ever had solicitations for funds in Meredith's name posted on her web site. TIA.

 

[Cappuccino]

Could you please provide a link to support the claim that, in Italy, the victim is not represented by a lawyer during the trial.

If Italian law, on paper, accords Maresca with his lies the status of Meredith's lawyer then that is something else the ECHR needs to take a look at.

Now show me a link that proves that Maresca is not looking for a multi million euro payout for the Kercher family.

 

[otto]

The victim is allowed a voice in every civilised justice system, its called the State prosecutor. Maresca is not the state prosecutor, he has no interest in impartial justice, he is a civil lawyer whose interest is to sue for a multi million euro settlement for his clients - the Kercher family. He should be speaking to a separate court formed for the purposes of civil proceedings, not to a criminal court formed to decide guilt or innocence.

In the US, the criminal trial is presented separately from the case presented by the victim's lawyer. In Italy, the victim's lawyer presents a case simultaneously. It's a completely different legal system. If Knox wasn't prepared to accept the law of Italy, she should have stayed home.

 

[Amber29]

"She has a personal website where she invites people to collect donations in the memory of the victim, Meredith Kercher, which is an unbearable contradiction for the family," Mr Maresca said.

This is what I'm seeing he said.

Which I completely agree with. Her family doesn't seem to want AKs help in donations for the fund in their daughters name.

 

[Katody]

I think we need proof in the form of a link before the victim's lawyer should be labelled a liar. A link to the current, updated blog that Knox publishes is not sufficient, as we all know that it takes mere seconds to change the content on a blog.

I think unless we see a link confirming Maresca's words it is safe to conclude he is a liar.

 

[aa9511]

Good thoughts; thanks for your input - and yes, "premature" does seem to describe the whole publishing thing for both (as they knew in Italy, the rulings were far from finalized).

Does anyone know how the law works regarding these type of books related to the suspects in a case? For example, would she have been allowed to still publish the book if she was still in jail? I don't even know how that works in the U.S., much less in Italy. Are convicted felons in the U.S. allowed to publish books in their name? It is confusing, because I'm assuming they are allowed to write in prison, of course, and so then they could just give their "final copy" to someone on the outside to publish, no? Or even have back and forth with the editing and everything from the prison, through family members or something?

I'm wondering because I don't think that Ryan Ferguson wrote any book in the 10+ years he was involved in his case. Maybe he will write one now, but if he had wanted to "capitalize" on his situation, he could have presumably written one a long time ago.

 

[Amber29]

If Italian law, on paper, accords Maresca with his lies the status of Meredith's lawyer then that is something else the ECHR needs to take a look at.

Now show me a link that proves that Maresca is not looking for a multi million euro payout for the Kercher family.

And AK has made millions off of this trial with a book deal. What is your point?

Doesn't every civil suit ask for monetary compensation for the survivors?

Are you implying the Kerchers have done something wrong in seeking punitive reward from someone they consider their daughters killer?

 

[otto]

Oh very likely! The standard of evidence needed for guilters to assume the worst and nastiest thing possible about Amanda Knox ranges from flimsy to non-existent, as we can see in the post above.

It's far more simple than that. For six years, every single official that made a statement or ruling that did not favor Knox has been slandered. Today, it happens again. If this was the first time that a lawyer related to the case had been labelled a liar, people would be interested in understanding the reasoning. However, this is not the first, nor that last, time that this happens. This is normal. It is normal for Knox's defense to claim, day after day, that every single person related to the case, excluding her and Sollecito's lawyers, are liars.

Why should anyone believe it?

 

[SMK]

"She has a personal website where she invites people to collect donations in the memory of the victim, Meredith Kercher, which is an unbearable contradiction for the family," Mr Maresca said.

This is what I'm seeing he said.

Which I completely agree with. Her family doesn't seem to want AKs help in donations for the fund in their daughters name.

I think it would have been better had she simply left all things Meredith to her family.

As far as this assertion in the Daily Mail headline and various other news sites:

Knox is soliciting donations on her website for her defense as well as a separate, as yet-unspecified project in Miss Kercher's memory

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nda-Knoxs-convicted-murder.html#ixzz2ng3cqmYe

Could Maresca have read that in her memoir book or someplace? He must surely have gotten the idea somewhere?

 

[Cappuccino]

And AK has made millions off of this trial with a book deal. What is your point?

Doesn't every civil suit ask for monetary compensation for the survivors?

Are you implying the Kerchers have done something wrong in seeking punitive reward from someone they consider their daughters killer?

No, I'm implying their civil claim for damages should be held in a separate court to the criminal appeals process.

 

[otto]

I think Amanda's site is subdued an tasteful. Obviously it's about the injustice and it makes it about Meredith very much. Meredith will not have peace while there is injustice perpetrated in her name.

The Kerchers are asking for donations online, they've put up a website for that purpose: Meredith Kercher's Fund.

Amanda just linked to their website on hers. That's all.

Amanda is not soliciting money in the name of Meredith. What Maresca does by spinning lies like this is extremely disgusting and it makes me doubt he has actual approval of the family for his actions, just like with the disturbing and disrespectful slideshow he presented to the media and public in court.

BBM

Could you please provide a link.

 

[SMK]

No, I'm implying their civil claim for damages should be held in a separate court to the criminal appeals process.

It seems that Italy puts the civil and the criminal together:

Recall even Judge Hellmann's appeal ruling had him finding her guilty of calumnia regarding Lumumba.

 

[Amber29]

No, I'm implying their civil claim for damages should be held in a separate court to the criminal appeals process.

Well pity that's not how Italy does it. We have all known this since the first instance trial. It is nothing new.

 

[otto]

No, I'm implying their civil claim for damages should be held in a separate court to the criminal appeals process.

Why? Because that is how people from the US like it?

 

[Coldpizza]

Please post in a respectful and civil manner.

Friendly reminder: only MSM tweets for court proceedings are allowed and a link must be provided.

:bump:

Also, remember when stating something as fact you need to provide a link, if it's your opinion, then say so.

 

[aa9511]

It's odd that I can find nothing on Amanda's website about HER collecting money for HER to determine what to do with in Meredith's name. There is however a link to the Meredith Kercher Fund that takes you to the site that apparently Meredith's family has set up. There is also a link to the Raffaele Sollecito Fund that takes you to his site. Any donations made on the other two sites do NOT go to Amanda. Sounds like once again something that Amanda has done is being taken and turned around to be something evil.

IMO it is still wrong!!!!!! The Kercher family has made it VERY CRYSTAL CLEAR that they don't want to have anything to do with Amanda or Raffaele. I think both sides can agree on this, no?

Look at it from the Kerchers' viewpoint for one sec, please, they think that Amanda and RS are guilty, as in brutally killed their daughter. Why would they want money from people who support Amanda or RS??? That makes no sense!!! Wanting money from people who are in turn, supporting the defense and other things of the very people you think are responsible for their daughter's death?

No, they want nothing to do with the supporters of Amanda and RS, no offense to those on this forum. I'm just saying from the Kercher viewpoint.

So it is very wrong that they are even linking to the Kercher site from their site, that is very very wrong. Because then those people on her website supporting AMANDA, are in turn going to Meredith's site to donate??

No, it's all twisted, IMO. They should not be linking up and trying to connect with Meredith's family's site or anything having to do with Meredith.

 

[Katody]

I think it would have been better had she simply left all things Meredith to her family.

As far as this assertion in the Daily Mail headline and various other news sites:



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nda-Knoxs-convicted-murder.html#ixzz2ng3cqmYe

Could Maresca have read that in her memoir book or someplace? He must surely have gotten the idea somewhere?

I think he visited Amanda's blog and have seen the link to Kercher's Fund as a opportunity to attack.

Amanda's life is irreversibly connected with Meredith's Kercher murder and with Meredith Kercher. I don't think anyone, including the Kerchers has the right to demand Amanda to shut up about this.

I think the Kerchers would have had much better position to make such demands had they chose the most dignified IMO position of neutrality in this trial and not declaring Amanda's guilt before the decision of an independent court.

 

[TorisMom003]

I think it would have been better had she simply left all things Meredith to her family.

As far as this assertion in the Daily Mail headline and various other news sites:



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nda-Knoxs-convicted-murder.html#ixzz2ng3cqmYe

Could Maresca have read that in her memoir book or someplace? He must surely have gotten the idea somewhere?

It would be extremely difficult for Amanda to leave all things Meredith to Meredith's family. Amanda's life is forever entwined with Meredith. There is nothing now that can change that fact. Even if Amanda is found not guilty the two will always be connected. To suggest that Amanda leave all things Meredith to her family is to suggest that Amanda ignore the years since Meredith's murder and what all Amanda herself has had to endure. The same goes for RS.

MOO

 

[Amber29]

IMO it is still wrong!!!!!! The Kercher family has made it VERY CRYSTAL CLEAR that they don't want to have anything to do with Amanda or Raffaele. I think both sides can agree on this, no?

Look at it from the Kerchers' viewpoint for one sec, please, they think that Amanda and RS are guilty, as in brutally killed their daughter. Why would they want money from people who support Amanda or RS??? That makes no sense!!! Wanting money from people who are in turn, supporting the defense and other things of the very people you think are responsible for their daughter's death?

No, they want nothing to do with the supporters of Amanda and RS, no offense to those on this forum. I'm just saying from the Kercher viewpoint.

So it is very wrong that they are even linking to the Kercher site from their site, that is very very wrong. Because then those people on her website supporting AMANDA, are in turn going to Meredith's site to donate??

No, it's all twisted, IMO. They should not be linking up and trying to connect with Meredith's family's site or anything having to do with Meredith.

Exactly! This was the only point IMO that Maresca was making hence the "it is a complete contradiction for the family."

He is not the liar here, he is the voice for the victim and her family.