American made 737-800 disintegrated upon crashing Russia -62 dead

[Gigi-G]

M1 plane crash... debris scattered significant damage to the freeway. And yet still identifiable parts of plane.



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[Gigi-G]

I'm sorry but I don't buy this 737 just disintegrated into nothingness. Do they think we are stoopid!! ✈

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[Gigi-G]

IMO I would of expected that anything identified from an investigation point of view. Should be tagged and bagged. Along with a grid overlay to at least find a reasonable determination of the last seconds as it hit ground. Tbf. We have only seen debris over the airport tarmac and surrounding grassland.
As to the b+w cctv. That shows it came down OFF the boundaries of airport into surrounding land...
You can't tell me that the pieces of fuz with the orange writing on is ALL.thats left of the 737.... I may be blonde but puhlease don't insult my intelligence... jeez.

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[CARIIS]

M1 plane crash... debris scattered significant damage to the freeway. And yet still identifiable parts of plane.

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Was this the one where capt killed the only working engine?

 

[CARIIS]

IMO I would of expected that anything identified from an investigation point of view. Should be tagged and bagged. Along with a grid overlay to at least find a reasonable determination of the last seconds as it hit ground. Tbf. We have only seen debris over the airport tarmac and surrounding grassland.
As to the b+w cctv. That shows it came down OFF the boundaries of airport into surrounding land...
You can't tell me that the pieces of fuz with the orange writing on is ALL.thats left of the 737.... I may be blonde but puhlease don't insult my intelligence... jeez.

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That is what I habe been sayingh!! There has to be another site where stuff started hitting EARTH.

Why have we not sign main breakup scene??


It just strange IMO

 

[LinasK]

I asked my hubby- who is a Mechanical Engineer- why no crater or burn marks, and he said because the plane was already disintegrating on impact. I got the same impression after watching the video that it was already on fire as it plummeted from 8,000 feet at a high rate of speed. The physics force involved in that is astronomical. Think about people who commit suicide off high buildings and they splatter (Sorry to be so graphic). Maybe it was a bomb, or maybe they ran out of fuel after circling for two hours. I can't believe this pilot didn't just divert to another airport like the other flights did. My gut feeling is that he was being careless and lazy because it was his last job with this airline, and he just wanted to be done with this flight and move on to the next airline.
Watch some episodes of the show Mythbusters- you can still catch the reruns on the Science Channel. You'll see that some of their explosions, especially the very last one of the crash dummy Buster, resulted in complete disintegration as if he never existed!
Every plane crash is different. This is NOT a conspiracy on anybody's part to hide the debris field.

 

[1&2&3]

On the following reconstruction video, we can see that the plane did hit the ground short of the runway, looks like it did a flip, and crashed before the runway started.

So, why are we not seeing pictures of the initial impact of the plane? It would appear that is where the majority of the plane would be.

If I am misunderstanding this reconstruction video, please post your thoughts.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/flydubai-plane-crash-chilling-3d-7597825

 

[Gigi-G]

I asked my hubby- who is a Mechanical Engineer- why no crater or burn marks, and he said because the plane was already disintegrating on impact. I got the same impression after watching the video that it was already on fire as it plummeted from 8,000 feet at a high rate of speed. The physics force involved in that is astronomical. Think about people who commit suicide off high buildings and they splatter (Sorry to be so graphic). Maybe it was a bomb, or maybe they ran out of fuel after circling for two hours. I can't believe this pilot didn't just divert to another airport like the other flights did. My gut feeling is that he was being careless and lazy because it was his last job with this airline, and he just wanted to be done with this flight and move on to the next airline.
Watch some episodes of the show Mythbusters- you can still catch the reruns on the Science Channel. You'll see that some of their explosions, especially the very last one of the crash dummy Buster, resulted in complete disintegration as if he never existed!
Every plane crash is different. This is NOT a conspiracy on anybody's part to hide the debris field.

I understand what you're saying. And I agree whole heartedly. The elementals and forces in any air crash provide unfathomable energies. But I'm sure the plane would of shed something more than just a bit of 4ft×3ft fuz.
Lockerbie WAS a bomb. Detonated mid air. And yet a thorough forensics done 'in situ' and after pan am 103 was reconstructed in a hangar. Amongst all that debris. Yes it was years later but it was confirmed it was a bomb.
The area where this 737 supposedly came down. Is cleared? Already?
There is no attention to detail... just grab what you see and we'll go thru it later kind of attitude.
In this day and age. With extensive improvements on getting data from minute pieces of debris. Or human dna for confirmation for relatives. Is far greater than back 25+years ago.

Smdh. It doesn't add up. That's all I'm saying.

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[AlwaysShocked]

If the pilot had decided to abort the second landing attempt and was going back up and then got caught in a windshear, the windshear could drop the plane like that. But it does look like there is a fire at the front of the plane prior to it hitting the ground.

As far as the Russians disseminating info to the world about things like this, I think Vlad has an old school KGB attitude about things like that.

 

[Gigi-G]

On the following reconstruction video, we can see that the plane did hit the ground short of the runway, looks like it did a flip, and crashed before the runway started.

So, why are we not seeing pictures of the initial impact of the plane? It would appear that is where the majority of the plane would be.

If I am misunderstanding this reconstruction video, please post your thoughts.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/flydubai-plane-crash-chilling-3d-7597825

Totally agree with you there.

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[MelmothTheLost]

Was this the one where capt killed the only working engine?

Yes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kegworth_air_disaster

 

[Gigi-G]

Was this the one where capt killed the only working engine?

Not sure. Will go check it out

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[Gigi-G]

Yes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kegworth_air_disaster

Thank you.. I am so sleepy I can go to bed again now.

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[LinasK]

I understand what you're saying. And I agree whole heartedly. The elementals and forces in any air crash provide unfathomable energies. But I'm sure the plane would of shed something more than just a bit of 4ft×3ft fuz.
Lockerbie WAS a bomb. Detonated mid air. And yet a thorough forensics done 'in situ' and after pan am 103 was reconstructed in a hangar. Amongst all that debris. Yes it was years later but it was confirmed it was a bomb.
The area where this 737 supposedly came down. Is cleared? Already?
There is no attention to detail... just grab what you see and we'll go thru it later kind of attitude.
In this day and age. With extensive improvements on getting data from minute pieces of debris. Or human dna for confirmation for relatives. Is far greater than back 25+years ago.

Smdh. It doesn't add up. That's all I'm saying.

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No, it wasn't cleared already, there just were no large pieces this time except for what we saw in the initial photos. If they find remains then yeah they can do DNA testing for the relatives.

 

[CARIIS]

The elementals and forces in any air crash provide unfathomable energies. But I'm sure the plane would of shed something more than just a bit of 4ft×3ft fuz.
Lockerbie WAS a bomb. Detonated mid air. And yet a thorough forensics done 'in situ' and after pan am 103 was reconstructed in a hangar. Amongst all that debris. Yes it was years later but it was confirmed it was a bomb.
The area where this 737 supposedly came down. Is cleared? Already?
There is no attention to detail... just grab what you see and we'll go thru it later kind of attitude.
In this day and age. With extensive improvements on getting data from minute pieces of debris. Or human dna for confirmation for relatives. Is far greater than back 25+years ago.

Smdh. It doesn't add up. That's all I'





So with you wish there was some kind of like plagerism video search!! I think the black and white is bogus - from something ages ago! Russia is not athird world country, the notion, in this day and age (terrosrism) a major airport only had hideous resolution black and white security cameras is ludicrious. A Camera aimed at some trees is even stupider IMO

If they dont have $ cameras , you would think they would put the cra#py ones pointed at something different than some trees !!!

It also came out very quick. And if there was any validityto it why all along thus far have the headlines not been something like "No clues as to what casused flight XXXX to catch fire before impact"

Whatever the thing in that video is , it was clealy ablaze -planes falling out of the sky on fire -the fire part would be the starting point of the question no?

What have they focusesd on:

weather
go arounds

it seems to me the big story would be a 5 year old jetliner aparetnly caught fire in mid air killing 62 Jmo

So they show this enormous fireball, and then proceed to show the world folks picking up the largest pieces that appear to have no scorching from this enormous explosion.

It defies physics.

The notion that they pulled up at the last minute in an effort to abort makes no sense either. If the thing was on fire before impact, how on earth are the pilots able "to see" through the smoke and flames?

Who could beleive that aircraft control systems are imune to raging flames and still working in order to respond to a command to go around again?

Every story has said short of the runway- where has the video been of grassy areas, that should be scorched beyond belief?

65.32

We can clearly see that that it was falling superfast, a 737-800 weighs 65.32 metric tons empty. So a 65 ton entity at high speeds impacts earth and leaves no crater?

Gonna check out images of other crashes next post sometimes the pictures go nuts!

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=How+many+tons+does+a+737+800+weigh

 

[CARIIS]

 

[CARIIS]

Cant seem to get thier story together are basic stuff

Closed-circuit TV footage showed the plane going down at a steep angle and exploding. The powerful explosion left a big crater in the runway

??????

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-black-boxes-from-deadly-plane-crash-badly-damaged/

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https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=black+boxes+russian+plane+crash&tbs=qdr:d


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[CARIIS]

I asked my hubby- who is a Mechanical Engineer- why no crater or burn marks, and he said because the plane was already disintegrating on impact. I got the same impression after watching the video that it was already on fire as it plummeted from 8,000 feet at a high rate of speed. The physics force involved in that is astronomical. Think about people who commit suicide off high buildings and they splatter (Sorry to be so graphic). Maybe it was a bomb, or maybe they ran out of fuel after circling for two hours. I can't believe this pilot didn't just divert to another airport like the other flights did. My gut feeling is that he was being careless and lazy because it was his last job with this airline, and he just wanted to be done with this flight and move on to the next airline.
Watch some episodes of the show Mythbusters- you can still catch the reruns on the Science Channel. You'll see that some of their explosions, especially the very last one of the crash dummy Buster, resulted in complete disintegration as if he never existed!
Every plane crash is different. This is NOT a conspiracy on anybody's part to hide the debris field.

I dont think they are hiding a debris feild! I think what they claim has happened does not add up with what they say.

If we go with no crater (rare) where if the burned out area from the massive exlosion?

Did they crash "on" the runway or are the reports that describe did not make the runway?

It is amazing they discovered the black boxes so quickly if the machine was in disintegration mode from thousands of feet above earth.

In air disintegration leaves as enormous debris feild for miles. Have we seen aerial footage of this wide debris area

This was found miles away from impact area

 

[CARIIS]

They cant get their story together - this is a pretty concrete deal they were or they were not


he committee said late Sunday that investigators had retrieved data from the plane's flight data recorder, which keeps an electronic log of how the airplane was working. That device had "good recording quality" and included information about the plane's final seconds, the committee said.

Russia: Black boxes from plane crash site are badly damaged

They could be damaged and still provide data but seems like they are all over place

 

[CARIIS]

Twa 800

in air disintegration

Check out the debris fiedl



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