Amy Bradley, 23, Disappeared from cruise ship en route to Curaçao, 24 March 1998 #4

[tara83]

I've thought from the start she was murdered on the ship and her body thrown overboard.I doubt her poor family will ever find her.

 

[Hiandmighty]

Here are a couple links about his arrest

http://www.caribbean360.com/news/fl...ng-sex-tourism-business-in-dominican-republic

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/cri...ourism-business-prosecutors-article-1.2356426

I'm going through the earlier pages and wanted to point this out from the link about Alfred Cotten:

"The case was handled by the Manhattan District Attorney’s Human Trafficking Response Unit and Homeland Security.

Read more: http://www.caribbean360.com/news/fl...-business-in-dominican-republic#ixzz5D2nl2CDV

FBI was not involved in this case. It was tried locally in a Manhattan city court by the NYC district attorney.

"Lawyers for the couple said they have never been in legal trouble before and shouldn’t be now, because prostitution is legal in the Dominican Republic."

 

[liltexans]

Prostitution is also legal and regulated in Curaçao.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_the_Dutch_Caribbean

Prostitution in the Dutch Caribbean (Aruba, Bonaire, Curaçao, Saba, Sint Eustatius, and Sint Maarten) is legal and regulated.[1][2] At least 500 foreign women are reportedly working in prostitution throughout the islands.[3][4] Bonaire,[5] Sint Eustatius, and Curaçao are sex tourism destinations.[2]

 

[Hiandmighty]

Now debunked concepts

1) there was no beach sighting of Amy with two handlers with her tattoos sighted. This was imaginary and part of the long con

2) Alfred Cotten and his wife are not associated with this case in any way, shape or form.

 

[Hiandmighty]

Prostitution is also legal and regulated in Curaçao.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_the_Dutch_Caribbean

Prostitution in the Dutch Caribbean (Aruba, Bonaire, Curaçao, Saba, Sint Eustatius, and Sint Maarten) is legal and regulated.[1][2] At least 500 foreign women are reportedly working in prostitution throughout the islands.[3][4] Bonaire,[5] Sint Eustatius, and Curaçao are sex tourism destinations.[2]

Which again, makes the idea far fetched to suggest a high profile American woman was kidnapped for sex in a place where prostitution is legal and then her kidnappers continued to parade her around publicly in the United States!

 

[Mica]

The beach sighting with the tatoos was part of the long con the bradleys fell into when they were extorted out of money.

"Amid all the negativism, however, the Bradleys say they recently received the most promising information yet as to Amy's whereabouts. Based on an in-person meeting with one of two men who claim they saw Amy on a remote beach last year, Iva Bradley has made plans for an intensive search and has set up a fund with a nonprofit group to support a hoped-for rescue later.

"This is the biggest, most hopeful sign yet," Iva Bradley says of the latest reported sighting. "It's a very positive situation, and these two guys have identified Amy right down to her tattoo around her navel and her navel ring.

What is clear is that the Bradleys are willing to go to whatever legal lengths are necessary to get Amy back — including, Iva Bradley says, hiring "paramilitary forces."

https://www.styleweekly.com/richmon...litary-operation-to-bring/Content?oid=1384781





To sum up, the beach sighting was imaginary. It never happened.

The beach con involved Frank Jones and a photo of a supposed Amy. Proven to be a complete fraud for money scheme.

The beach sighting in Porto Marie involving David Carmichael was very real. I wasn’t aware it has been disproven.

 

[Hiandmighty]

Does anyone have a decent link to the disappeared epi? I can’t find a proper working one. About to throw my tv out the window! TIA


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Maybe try amybradley.net though many links are dead now

 

[Dushi]

The David Carmichael sighting...

He says he saw her in August 1998, five months after she disappeared
He said she looked frightened, but in his words he said he thought nothing of it

It wasn't until he saw a pic five months later that he reported his sighting

 

[Hiandmighty]

The beach con involved Frank Jones and a photo of a supposed Amy. Prove to be a complete fraud for money scheme.

The beach sighting in Porto Marie involving David Carmichael was very real. I wasn’t aware it has been disproven.

As far as I can tell, David Carmichael and his buddy were the two people Iva mentions in the InStyle link whose eyewitness accounts on the beach of Amy and two handlers led the Bradleys to hire paramilitary forces (frank jones) to get her.

So if this is correct-- and the timeline fits, the location fits etc then Dvid Carmichael is indirectly related to the long con.

His is just another "100% sure" eyewitness account that never was substantianted and is yet another person who never received reward money.

 

[Mica]

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What&#8217;s interesting to me is the FBI became publicly involved with Amy&#8217;s case sometime in early 2017 and about 10 months or so after the FL couple&#8217;s sentencing. Maybe just another one of those coincidences.

IIRC, Amy Bradley was removed from the missing person&#8217;s page of the FBI for quite some time until Special Agent Erin Sheridan revisited the case. Agent Sheridan is assigned to the violent crimes task force working homicides and cold cases. I doubt she would be assigned to a case of suicide by going overboard. IMO

>>snip
Erin Sheridan

I&#8217;m assigned to the violent crimes task force working homicides, serial sexual assaults, or serial killings. And I tend to work on the cold cases and the unusual homicides or the unusual crimes. And for me, I am drawn to cold cases.


https://www.fbi.gov/video-repository/fbirecruitingerinsheridan-bwonbu0sqrg1.mov/view

 

[Hiandmighty]

What&#8217;s interesting to me is the FBI became publicly involved with Amy&#8217;s case sometime in early 2017 and about 10 months or so after the FL couple&#8217;s sentencing. Maybe just another one of those coincidences.

IIRC, Amy Bradley was removed from the missing person&#8217;s page of the FBI for quite some time until Special Agent Erin Sheridan revisited the case. Agent Sheridan is assigned to the violent crimes task force working homicides and cold cases. I doubt she would be assigned to a case of suicide by going overboard. IMO

>>snip
Erin Sheridan

I&#8217;m assigned to the violent crimes task force working homicides, serial sexual assaults, or serial killings. And I tend to work on the cold cases and the unusual homicides or the unusual crimes. And for me, I am drawn to cold cases.


https://www.fbi.gov/video-repository/fbirecruitingerinsheridan-bwonbu0sqrg1.mov/view

The FBI has been involved since 2 days after she went missing when they boarded the ship. I may or may not have time to find that link.


ETA: the original FBI links went dead for a while and then were updated last year with the new posters


ETA: maybe not a great source, but found this:

"To contact Curacao authorities and the FBI, the Bradley family had to depart the Rhapsody. In 1998, the US government had no power to prevent the ship from moving, to board the ship or to ensure a search to was conducted to federal standards. It was only a few days between Amy&#8217;s disappearance and the FBI&#8217;s arrival, but any sort of crime scene on the ship had long been destroyed. The perpetrator &#8211; and Amy &#8211; were long gone."

https://justcogens.org/2017/10/23/amy-lynn-bradley-the-murky-waters-of-maritime-jurisdiction-part-i/


"it took 2 days for FBI to board the ship."
https://www.nytimes.com/1998/11/16/us/for-missing-woman-s-family-no-answers.html

 

[TTF14]

Did the band guy pass the polygraph? I recall them saying he took one (on the Disappeared episode), but I don't recall them saying what the results were....just that he gave a thumbs up.

 

[Mica]

"Then Jones finally told them it was time to attempt a rescue — and that he needed more money. When the family demanded proof that the woman Jones's men were tracking was their daughter, he sent them some photographs of her sitting on the beach with the blond-haired man. "When I got the pictures, I knew Amy was OK, and it was just a matter of time," remembers Iva Bradley, who recognized the tattoo on her daughter's ankle."

"Another member of Jones's team, Jono Senk, told Primetime that the photographs supposedly showing Amy on the beach with her blond-haired captor were in fact taken by Jones on a beach in Pensacola, Fla. Senk said he posed as the "captor," wearing a blond wig, while the woman in the picture was an acquaintance of Jones."

http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=131968&page=1

Frank Jones is the conman not David Carmichael.

 

[Dushi]

There was suggestion that Amy could have gone ashore to buy cigarettes.
Has that been debunked? Could something have happen off of the ship?
Was the ship docked and passengers going ashore when Mr. Bradley realized Amy was missing?

 

[Mica]

I guess I'm more likely than you to see that happening. It would be nice if everyone in the military were honorable, but they're not.

Still, I think she went overboard one way or another.

At the time of the sighting David Carmichael was not aware of whom Amy Bradley was. He made the connection months later after watching America’s Most Wanted and then again on Unsolved Mysteries.

 

[Hiandmighty]

Frank Jones is the conman not David Carmichael.

Exactly.

 

[JSolt1210]

Did the band guy pass the polygraph? I recall them saying he took one (on the Disappeared episode), but I don't recall them saying what the results were....just that he gave a thumbs up.

Actually, I just noticed the episode doesn't say one way or the other. Although the whole "smiling, with his thumbs up" part suggests he passed&#8212;or that at least he was told that he passed.

From the episode, around the 18:09 mark:

Narrator: Douglas agrees to submit to a polygraph exam. Afterwards, Amy's father, Ron, says he's troubled by Douglas's seeming non-chalance.

Ron: He came out of the interview smiling, with his thumbs up, to his band members, like 'everything's cool.' It made me feel like I wanted to strangle him actually...

Narrator: Douglas tells investigators that he knows nothing about Amy's disappearance. After countless hours of interviews at sea, the FBI investigation doesn't produce any other viable leads.

 

[TTF14]

Actually, I just noticed the episode doesn't say one way or the other. Although the whole "smiling, with his thumbs up" part suggests he passed&#8212;or that at least he was told that he passed.

From the episode, around the 18:09 mark:

Narrator: Douglas agrees to submit to a polygraph exam. Afterwards, Amy's father, Ron, says he's troubled by Douglas's seeming non-chalance.

Ron: He came out of the interview smiling, with his thumbs up, to his band members, like 'everything's cool.' It made me feel like I wanted to strangle him actually...

Narrator: Douglas tells investigators that he knows nothing about Amy's disappearance. After countless hours of interviews at sea, the FBI investigation doesn't produce any other viable leads.

Hmmmmm......a glaring omission.......

 

[Mica]

As far as I can tell, David Carmichael and his buddy were the two people Iva mentions in the InStyle link whose eyewitness accounts on the beach of Amy and two handlers led the Bradleys to hire paramilitary forces (frank jones) to get her.

So if this is correct-- and the timeline fits, the location fits etc then Dvid Carmichael is indirectly related to the long con.

His is just another "100% sure" eyewitness account that never was substantianted and is yet another person who never received reward money.

Frank Jones contacted the Bradley&#8217;s via email in the fall of 1999 months after David Carmichael spoke to them. The two are not connected nor are the timelines or stories.

 

[Hiandmighty]

Frank Jones contacted the Bradley&#8217;s via email in the fall of 1999 months after David Carmichael spoke to them. The two are not connected nor are the timelines or stories.

Goodness! How many beach sightings were there?!


Can someone link them all up. I'm running out of steam on this.