Anthony`s volunteer fingerprints-Potential case being built against them?

[tehcloser]

There reaches a point where you can no longer defend the indefensible....we are there. These people have crossed ever line known to mankind, and it is time for people to quit enabling them..IMO

 

[SuziQ]

Exactly, the very fact that they didn't call 911 when they found the knife, the clothes, ect. is a dead give away, to me, that they suspected KC.

I have asked myself, if I truly thought my granddaughter was missing and someone had taken off with her, would I do away with a knife that might have fingerprints, ect. For me the answer is NO! I believe the jury will see it the same way

True, if they didn't think it was KC, wouldn't they have wanted the person responsible caught?

 

[Chilly Willy]

A crime doesn't have to be successful to be a crime.

True, but if George and/or Cindy were really attempting to cover up a murder or to cover for the murderer, they did a pizz poor job. With the mountain of evidence against Caylee, is it at all reasonable to believe that Cindy thought Casey would be in the clear if only those darn pants were clean?

Covering for the murder would be destroying the car, or at the very least signing it over to the tow company to cover the fees. It wouldn't be bringing it home. Calling 911 and reporting a missing child whose absence might otherwise go unnoticed pretty much forever, is not covering for a murder. Cindy did stupid little things and made some conflicting statements, but nothing that she did rises to the level of cover-up. Not even anywhere near.

 

[Short_Stuff]

They will not charge the GA and CA, unless of course "direct" evidence in their involvement is found.
Why? Because they need GA to testify at the trial.
(Not saying they are involved or arent, this is all JMHO from following the case).

 

[butwhatif?]

Maybe LE watcked LKL, Ca say Everything KC said was true. GA said the smell was rotton food. One statment for the GJ and another for the jury pool.

A's atty saying they have done "NOTHING WRONG!"

Well he's saying that they have made conflicting statements now, and that that will not happen the next time they go on record.
He's realistic and honest about the situation- I like him.

Also as far as I know, believing your daughters lies is not a crime. Otherwise half the population would be locked up. GA saying that the smell was rotting food, could be a lie, denial, or simply his opinion. The forensics report clearly states that although there was no pizza in the pizza box there were food items in the bag of the trunk.(p2287)
If the A's are charged in the future it will be on something concrete, not something as vague and open to interpretation as this imo.

 

[curiositycat]

There reaches a point where you can no longer defend the indefensible....we are there. These people have crossed ever line known to mankind, and it is time for people to quit enabling them..IMO

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

 

[impatientredhead]

It wasn't his car and he did not know the entire circumstance!

I am *not* suggesting I agree with how they have handled things. I am simply saying that I don't expect charges related to the items mentioned here. I can think of MANY other cases where relatives have done similar things and were never charged. My only point being I don't think the prosecutor will find this to be a winnable case and I don't think we will see them in court for these items.

 

[McSev]

Exactly, the very fact that they didn't call 911 when they found the knife, the clothes, ect. is a dead give away, to me, that they suspected KC.

I have asked myself, if I truly thought my granddaughter was missing and someone had taken off with her, would I do away with a knife that might have fingerprints, ect. For me the answer is NO! I believe the jury will see it the same way

You know the thing that confuses me? When exactly did the clothing get taken from the car? Within the first 24 hours? Any why only those? There are things which were still in the car when the detective came to secure it.

 

[curiositycat]

They will not charge the GA and CA, unless of course "direct" evidence in their involvement is found.
Why? Because they need GA to testify at the trial.
(Not saying they are involved or arent, this is all JMHO from following the case).

They may indeed charge them. They no longer need GA. They have remains of the murder victim.

 

[Chilly Willy]

But there was knowledge that Caylee was missing for a long time. GA admitted in interviews that he took a moment prayed Casey or Caylee was not in the trunk of the car. He didn't think there was body involved. He knew there was.

There was no knowledge that Caylee was 'missing' meaning had not been seen or in the care of her mother.

 

[Coolmomof4]

Maybe Caylee died on the night of June 15th in Caseys room. Casey wrapped her up in a blanket/sheet whatever she had handy and placed her in the trunk.
The duct tape had been put over the child's mouth earlier as maybe she was crying when she heard Casey and Cindy fighting.

George in fact really never saw Casey or Caylee leaving on the afternoon of the 16th. He just tossed that out there as it probbaly sounded good to him at the time and he thought it would change the time line to make it look like they had not tossed Casey out of the house the night before.

My theory is similar. George never saw Caylee on the 16th. I am wondering if perhaps the clothes that were found (questionable still with the different reports) may have been the clothes Caylee was wearing on Sunday at the Father's Day visit, and NOT the outfit George described in so much detail.

 

[evergreen]

Obviously they did NOT cover up a murder. Casey is in jail.

despite all best efforts and questionable efforts by the As to keep her out...

 

[SuziQ]

And IIRC he was so concerned he went back out there in his PAJAMAS to retrieve the bag, after he thought about it. I'd say that's a stand-up guy.

I think the poor guy dug through the entire disgusting dumpster before finding out LE already picked up the bag.

 

[evergreen]

They will not charge the GA and CA, unless of course "direct" evidence in their involvement is found.
Why? Because they need GA to testify at the trial.
(Not saying they are involved or arent, this is all JMHO from following the case).

they won't charge the As but the message being sent to the As now is that if you don't "cease and desist" with the BS, your lives will be turned upside down by LE.

 

[McSev]

Well he's saying that they have made conflicting statements now, and that that will not happen the next time they go on record.
He's realistic and honest about the situation- I like him.

Also as far as I know, believing your daughters lies is not a crime. Otherwise half the population would be locked up. GA saying that the smell was rotting food, could be a lie, denial, or simply his opinion. The forensics report clearly states that although there was no pizza in the pizza box there were food items in the bag of the trunk.(p2287)
If the A's are charged in the future it will be on something concrete, not something as vague and open to interpretation as this imo.

I'm not saying I want them charged -- but I do believe the inference will compel them to not omit certain parts of their experiences.

Speak of omitting...one can lie by omission.

 

[Carrington]

Looking back:
George told him his GD and Daughter were missing, RIGHT?
The car smelled like death, RIGHT
He should have called 911 as soon as George pulled out of the lot.
George being stopped by LE at that time, would have saved a lot of heartache.
IMO

 

[curiositycat]

You know the thing that confuses me? When exactly did the clothing get taken from the car? Within the first 24 hours? Any why only those? There are things which were still in the car when the detective came to secure it.

I have questions regarding that also. But when I go down that path I begin to think that Cindy knew the truth from the minute she heard the conversation(if it's the truth) between KC and LA. She may have removed it before LE got there at that point. Pure speculation. Like you I am confused. But not about the proceeding cover-up. From that point on..it was all about saving KC's rear.

 

[diablo]

They by their own admission to LE, they (former homicide and nurse) know what a dead body smells like. They knew the car smelled like a dead body and what that meant. Before calling LE, they drove the car home, hid it in their garage and removed and cleaned items from the car that they knew was a crime scene.

If I recall Lee's statement right, he did say when he first showed up at the house (after GA had told him to go there) and while cindy was still driving up, the garage door was closed with the car inside.

Of course one typically locks all doors when leaving the house empty, but they did more than just close the door. I believe GA admitted to scrubbing the trunk to eliminate the odor.

 

[FloridaKatz]

I think we are losing sight of what the A's 'could' be charged with if LE is inclined to do so - as SuziQ here has stated they, as a prior LE and a nurse knew what the smell of death was - first George did not call LE when he went to pick up the car from the two yard - okay we can dismiss that, they were frantic trying to find Caylee and Casey at the time - then Cindy takes out the stuff from the car knowing full well what it smelled like, washed the pants and knife, put the toys out back - okay we can dismiss that she was frantic also - THEN George proceeded to clean the truck - we cannot dismiss that - I'm sorry they tried to air out the car and they knew what death smelled like - THAT is when Cindy tracked Casey down and demanded to know where Caylee was and we started the circus with the 911 call.

THEN we have Cindy not giving items to LE as requested because she told them there was nothing for them - doesn't matter - LE needed it, Cindy did not hand it over - credit card statements, medical records

THEN Cindy changes her story to LE AND at bond trial - that IS punishible by law, LE dismisses it, they aren't done with Cindy yet

THEN Cindy has been recorded by LE as to arguing and talking to supenoa'd witnesses for trial - tow truck driver told LE that Cindy went back and argued with him and the friends of Casey told LE that she talked to all of them

THEN Cindy and George won't assist in searches condoned and sponsored by LE - i.e. Equasearch

THEN we see the email about the hairbrush - with this I'm sure there are more emails to follow

I'm sure nothing would have been done UNTIL the body was found and items from the house are found with the body - then LE gets the supenoa to get items from the house in which they took the computers again and a bunch of other stuff

It went past the frantic grandparents to ones trying to stop an investigation

And just think, where would we be with this if CA had NEVER made any of those 911 calls. Would anyone have ever come forward to report Caylee missing?

 

[Chilly Willy]

despite all best efforts and questionable efforts by the As to keep her out...

If that was their best efforts, I'd hate to see their worst ones.