April 29 weekend of Sleuthiness

[GhostCrab]

He's pretty young, isn't he? So he's not that far removed from law school. You think lawyers make a ton of money right after law school?

That's what every student in law school thinks too until reality hits them when they graduate.

If they can even get a job.

 

[NCEast]

What do you make of MH's testimony that she only wanted information to funnel through her to CPD early on? Why do you think she would say that?

I'm not accusing her of lying. I'm just saying there seem to be only 2 people in the world that knew about the painting plans, herself and NC.

Do you think RZ was lying when she said she saw NC jogging?

It was JA, not MH. It's hard to keep all of the initials straight.

 

[Just the Fax]

JTF, you really haven't been paying attention, have you?! 'Nother day, 'nother theory that involves perjury, by yet another witness who has apparently committed it.

Thanks Bottle Cap, but I have been paying attention...have you?
I responded to several posts that said JA would lie to help convict Bradley.

 

[CrimeAddict]

So you think JA lied and intentionally perjured herself on the stand to help convict BC????

I don't.

Me neither.
I think the ducks were there and they were moved. I think she had plans to paint and that was decided over a glass of wine as she walked around her house looking at things to organize. I think they kept it a secret because she was going to hide the money from BC! If I was murdered, I would want JA backing me up. She knew something was wrong, she called the authorities. IMO
We could only be so lucky to have a friend watching out for you like that.

 

[jrb0124]

3 years of law school and the lead ADA is making $45,000 ....WOW

What do you find unusual about that? Anyhow, he accepted the salary to take the job. I'm sure he had other offers he turned down...maybe

 

[BrownRice]

There are piles of shoes at all my doors, my friends call them the shoe graveyards (they also think I am a bug aphobe, I am and I admit it), and sometimes the animals hide one or two of a pair.

Really, you didn't need to share this. The thought of putting my foot into a shoe and finding out a small animal was in there really creeps me out. :crazy:

 

[Bottle Cap]

Let's also give a reply to all those bullet points, to be fair:

A. I don't think they tried to rule him out as a suspect
B. But since the police didn't investigate beyond him we don't know who else did, but there have been a couple of other witnesses they seem to have had also.
C. They didn't look for any other suspects, yes, I think there were other viable suspects.
D. What is a coincidence in this case? A lot of the coincidences seem to be over inflation of everyday tasks to me.
E. I think on this one you are being overly simplistic since we know the laptop, while in LE custody has other errors, then there is always that pesky erased cell phone of NCs.
F. You have no idea where she shopped for meat.
G. Eye Witnesses may not always be reliable, but there times they are reliable, I don't think we can discount them.
H. I am not sure about that happening with less evidence, but I am not going to go look it up - we will have to agree to disagree on that one.
I. The comment you made is the type that slays me. There is no proof that he did do it, but you want us to believe since there is no proof he didn't that that then means he is guilty. There is no proof that any of us are child molesters either, does that mean because that because there is no proof we aren't that we should all be arrested? We can't say, oh, proof doesn't matter, but since you can't prove you didn't do it that is on you. That is not how it works. The ones making the accusation have to offer up the proof, not the other way around.

I have doubts about how bad her marriage was. She made couple plans for her and BC to spend the evening with another couple for Saturday night. The realtor says he called her but there has been no proof of that, but she had not called her divorce attorney she had on retainer for months - don't you think if she was going to move out suddenly she would have called her attorney also? Then there is JP and his weirdness.

I have questions and they have not been answered in this trial to my satisfaction to say he is guilty.

A and B each require the other to be true in order for an if/then conclusion to be drawn, and neither one of them is something you have the answer to. Heck, throw C in there too. If you're using logic to draw conclusions, you should start with an objectively verifiable fact.

 

[NCEast]

You stated that these 3 ADAs have 100's of serious cases they are working on. That was what I called false...in fact the last stats I checked had the murder+rape arrests in WC for the year at under 100.

I don't know about Cummings, but both the female ADA and BZ ADA work in the drug unit of the Wake County District Attorney's Office.
They probably have not been handed any cases to work since this one landed in their laps since it's such a high profile case.

 

[Shadow722]

Nobody ever addresses this. JP would have had to drive around Cary looking for NC on her jogging route. He would have had to stop his car and either kill her on a jogging trail - at an hour popular with joggers due to the heat - or force her into his car. He would have driven down Fielding, in a car unknown to neighborhood residents, in broad daylight, and back out again. All this time, however long this would have taken, his children would be home alone. Really? Really??

Edited to include: add in there whatever time it would have taken for him to remove most of the clothes off a dead body. All in broad daylight.

To fully answer this question to your satisfaction would require a necessary bashing of the victim, NC and that I will not do. So I suggest you use your imagination, and think of three items already testified about:

NC desire to go running with JP sometime, and NC's conveniently deleted cell phone., and JP being out and about town @ 6:30 AM on the morning in question, and ADD into the mix that HM (yes that girl) is his alibi.

 

[Just the Fax]

You stated that these 3 ADAs have 100's of serious cases they are working on. That was what I called false...in fact the last stats I checked had the murder+rape arrests in WC for the year at under 100.

Overworked - underpaid

Fair enough?

 

[Danielle59]

Nobody ever addresses this. JP would have had to drive around Cary looking for NC on her jogging route. He would have had to stop his car and either kill her on a jogging trail - at an hour popular with joggers due to the heat - or force her into his car. He would have driven down Fielding, in a car unknown to neighborhood residents, in broad daylight, and back out again. All this time, however long this would have taken, his children would be home alone. Really? Really??

Edited to include: add in there whatever time it would have taken for him to remove most of the clothes off a dead body. All in broad daylight.

To bad we never got to see what was on her blackberry due to the CPD erasing it it may have had text messages of them planning to meet that morning. I am pretty sure, based on what we heard, that they did not ask to look at his cell phone messages.

 

[Bottle Cap]

Thanks Bottle Cap, but I have been paying attention...have you?
I responded to several posts that said JA would lie to help convict Bradley.

Sorry, I was just messin' with you a little. It astounds me, how people throw around theories that require mass perjury with seemingly little-to-no-concern on the part of the perjurer of the consequences to their own lives. All in an effort to frame an innocent man.

 

[cityslick]

Thanks Bottle Cap, but I have been paying attention...have you?
I responded to several posts that said JA would lie to help convict Bradley.

I'm confused as to why you think this is impossible when we have had testimony that has called into question JA's character.

MH testified that JA only wanted info to flow through her to CPD? Why is that?

CDittner testified that she received an email from JA asking only for negative info pertaining to BC.

 

[CrimeAddict]

I know I sound like a broken record, but can someone who truly believes that BDI explain the empty stomach, alcohol content and caffeine?

*crickets*

We have discussed this for the past 2 months.
My personal theory is that she was not a huge eater and her last bites of food were at normal dinner time. The onion that was left in her system the ME said can linger for a while.

I can't comment on the alcohol, I can't remember what the content they said was. But I Know her friends at the party said she had about 4 glasses of wine and 3-4 beers that night over the course of the night 6pm-1230am and did not appear drunk. The man and wife who testified that NC helped them with their kids into the car also commented she was not drunk otherwise they would never have let her help them with the kids.

Caffeine according to the ME can stay in your system for a few days. I can't recall the exact amount of time, was it 48 hours? Maybe someone can help me out here. HP and her friend testified she had a diet coke with lunch which was a sandwich, at the pool- at HP's on July 11 afternoon.


Hope this helps.

 

[Danielle59]

He's pretty young, isn't he? So he's not that far removed from law school. You think lawyers make a ton of money right after law school?

That's what every student in law school thinks too until reality hits them when they graduate.

Agreed, and he choses to work for that salary, he could find someplace else with a better salary if he wanted to. I have a feeling his benefits are pretty good, especially if they have a loan forgiveness program for working in the public sector. Law School is quite expensive.

 

[jrb0124]

Overworked - underpaid

Fair enough?

Perhaps, but keep in mind that if you post things statistical as facts - its probably a good idea to make sure they are facts.

 

[SleuthinNC]

Question from twitter piqued my interest thought I would share it here in case anybody has any information:

Was NC Lifetime Fitness card ever found?

What time was it that the card was thought to have been swiped but then determined to be an inadvertent check by an employee?

 

[Danielle59]

And murdering someone was going to repair his already terrible reputation?

No one has said it was going to repair his reputation, where did that come from? But, it surely would not harm it if none of the information about the child came out, if it is in fact his, and if he was not suspected of the murder thus not charged.

 

[Just the Fax]

I'm confused as to why you think this is impossible when we have had testimony that has called into question JA's testimony.

MH testified that JA only wanted info to flow through her to CPD? Why is that?

CDittner testified that she received an email from JA asking only for negative info pertaining to BC.

It is possible, sure.
I just think she told the truth as she knew it.
A memory of ducks and sticks in the foyer was real, imo.
I remember items in my neighbor's home and could easily be mistaken as to the last time I actually saw them.

 

[Cheyenne130]

I know I sound like a broken record, but can someone who truly believes that BDI explain the empty stomach, alcohol content and caffeine?

*crickets*

I can only guess that the question wasn't answered because it has been so many times. The ME was not able to do a BAC because there wasn't enough blood for such a test. He tested some fluid but it was not an actual BAC. There was onion still in her stomach. There were several hours for other food to digest. The ME explained that caffeine metabolizes different than other things and it would just as likely been present from earlier Friday, not necessarily Saturday morning. Testimony indicates that she had a diet coke for lunch on Friday.