GUILTY AR - Beverly Carter, 49, Little Rock, 25 Sep 2014 - # 7

[SavvyRose]

Dunno, She got served with the Emerg Custody change at 915, went and obtained Holiman as attny for the theft chg filed at 1 something and 2 something she electronically filed for divorce. Funny thing on that, I noticed that AL sent the Response paperwork to Holiman ! AND set himself up a transport from prison to court

Not sure why the Aug 27th date.. prob got coached from the lawyer, but she filed it pro se also. AL has also asked for time to conduct discovery ... sounds interesting... Wonder where he gonna get it from? lol

He is really good at this or he had a trained cockroach to run contraband and has hired himself an inmate lawyer.

You are required to notify opposing counsel when filing a complaint or it can be thrown out.

She filed it pro se but then had legal counsel so he covered all bases maybe?

 

[SavvyRose]

I am not gonna go there on CL. AL was not her first bad decision. She is 40 yrs old. She was all excited an into that stunt video. NJ herself said CL went to stay that weekend with an Ex BF. So to me, she just as bad as AL going online, same weekend. According to NJ, and I tend to believe her, CL had friends who cared for her. She could have gone to one of their homes and stayed correct? Stuff like her son living with his Father, yet making him pay full amt of CS and the gym for daughter. This was all prior to AL. Sorry, as creepy and all the things I feel and have read about AL, CL doesn't just get a free or easy pass. I big enough person if something comes out and CL is exonerated of these charges to come and humbly say I sucked at what I thought was what. But too many lil flags are flapping in the wind for me right now. And as someone said, when CL went to the Hospital when AL called... no one made her go. JMHO

I agree .. Not making an excuse for her at all . Like I said she is selfish and manipulative : and you're so right about the whole dating thing. I mean, IMO .. Eharmony is one thing.. Plenty of fish is probably another: seeing a shirtless AL send a hey sexy mssg ugh.
I don't know any woman her age on sites like that but there are some. Low standards much?

She wasn't forced into anything imo and she kidnapped or held Beverly against her will and caused her death. Her along with at least one other person.

Please don't take my disgust for seeing his Narcissistic personality peaking as CL defense. It's not.

 

[Butler321]

My very reliable inside source has just informed me that after the birth of her youngest daughter Crystal had her tubes tied.... So either Arron Lewis doesn't know this (which is interesting) or he's just talking $hit to get attention... Which he's very fond of doing.

 

[hagger]

He is really good at this or he had a trained cockroach to run contraband and has hired himself an inmate lawyer.

You are required to notify opposing counsel when filing a complaint or it can be thrown out.

She filed it pro se but then had legal counsel so he covered all bases maybe?

Plus they are not allowing her the mail he is sending her..

 

[beaglebrd]

Someone asked earlier the reason he's back in prison, what was his parole violation. It was for possession of a gun by a felon.

http://adc.arkansas.gov/inmate_info...6461&__utmb=93856461.2.10.1418362950&__utmt=1

 

[hagger]

Someone asked earlier the reason he's back in prison, what was his parole violation. It was for possession of a gun by a felon.

http://adc.arkansas.gov/inmate_info...6461&__utmb=93856461.2.10.1418362950&__utmt=1

thank you, I did not look there as the person I know they did not update that part of his status... guess Al is special.....lol

 

[concernedmother]

NJ how long have you known CL? Have you known her along time? Would you know her as well as her other friends would know her?

 

[arkansasmimi]

I KNEW I had read that NJ said CL and AL were texting and calling while CL was in class/clinicals on Thursday Sept 25th. Wonder why she didn't stay at the house? Seems that just made CL look more suspicious JMHO

Snippet: from NJ comments,

She was not staying at the house, only coming and going once AL went on the run. This was verified by neighbors so I believe she told me the truth

As I have posted here before. She was selling a lot of things she had to get money for rent and other bills. She was someone who went to yard sells and then resold things for more money. That was how she earned extra money anyway. She had a garage full of things so she started selling all that stuff, along with other items in her home.

I believe LE thought she was about to run so they made a plea with circumstantial evidence such as the phone in her house or maybe some phone calls between she and AL since they had text each other when she was in class on Thur. She turned her phone over to LE and they still have it. She gave them her pw so they could see the text she had with AL on that Thur. She cooperated.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...ing-realtor-4-ARREST!&p=11160996#post11160996

 

[arkansasmimi]

NJ how long have you known CL? Have you known her along time? Would you know her as well as her other friends would know her?

I have known her for many years
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...ing-realtor-4-ARREST!&p=11157833#post11157833

 

[arkansasmimi]

My very reliable inside source has just informed me that after the birth of her youngest daughter Crystal had her tubes tied.... So either Arron Lewis doesn't know this (which is interesting) or he's just talking $hit to get attention... Which he's very fond of doing.

I understand your comment as stated, and figured as much. But, lets think out loud... 1. CL may not have told AL being a much younger guy, he may have wanted kids, but wouldn't have known unless someone told him. 2. Tubals are not 100% 3. AL truly believes it 4. AL just blowing smoke.

I curious to his being able to get "discovery" :thinking: Does he think all the house is still sitting there waiting on them to come back? Or maybe knows where to look online??

 

[Tallula.Belle]

I understand your comment as stated, and figured as much. But, lets think out loud... 1. CL may not have told AL being a much younger guy, he may have wanted kids, but wouldn't have known unless someone told him. 2. Tubals are not 100% 3. AL truly believes it 4. AL just blowing smoke.

I curious to his being able to get "discovery" :thinking: Does he think all the house is still sitting there waiting on them to come back? Or maybe knows where to look online??

The house was rented, so I can't imagine he would find anything online. I think he is just using every excuse he can to drag things out. Obviously, he didn't have anyone go get his stuff and store it for him. Surely, he doesn't think the dog and all the furnishing are sitting in that house. Of course, the landlord would want to get it out and get it rented again. He knows the system in and out, already requesting to be transported. Just nonsense.

 

[nojusticenusa]

Is there any way to find out when CL posted this resume?

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=63099&d=1415457407

The reason I ask is because it says she worked at the insurance place until May. IIRC, ArkMimi said the application (affidavit?) for indigent status also said she worked there until May. She told her friends she worked there until July or August.

Also, I wonder what kind of job she was hoping to get. Much too early to be seeking employment as an RN. Since she quit her insurance company job to attend nursing school, would she have time for a job?

She is as much of an enigma to me as AL, maybe more so.

What friends did she tell she worked there until July or August? Do you have a link? I know she never told me when she quit her job. I know she was in college this summer which IF I remember started June. She was in nursing school full time since August. As far as actual date she stopped working I was never called up by her and told "hey I quit my job today". I just remember her going back to school.

I had assumed she didn't quit until she went back to school but I could be 100% wrong. I'm sure if her resume says May then she quit in May which would make sense due to summer school starting last of May first part of June.

 

[nojusticenusa]

I have a sweet young friend with 4 children, a full time job a husband who just graduated RN tonight...

as far as CL, I understand the ins. job was rare for her as she always depended on men to support her..

Can you post a link that shows the insurance job was rare and that she always had men to support her? I think her resume that was posted showed many jobs didn't it? I didn't study it so maybe I'm wrong.

 

[nojusticenusa]

we can pretty much guess that AL did a lot of buglurys ...the hidden guns were most likely taken from a theft... I saw several people post about CL & AL about the stun gun and other gun that CL supposedly bought for AL, he bragged about it I believe.. She would have just received her student loan money the 1st of Sept.

Do you have somewhere to direct us to the "several posts" that said CL bought AL a stun gun? Is there a link? Where did he brag about this and to who? I would like to get to the bottom of this mysterious stun gun since to my knowledge no stun gun was found by LE. There seems to be a lot of talk about it so someone please give us the link to this information please.

Can you give us the link to AL burglaries?

You are aware that guns are easily bought on the street correct? They don't id you or do a background check if you buy from an individual. That is only if you buy in a store.

Of course please feel free to research that and prove me wrong. Thanks!

 

[nojusticenusa]

CL was selling a lot of items about the 2 wks before she was arrested for CM & Kidnapping including her daughters bed... that pretty much led me to believe she was going to run---who sales their childs bed??

Can you give us a link where she was selling her child's bed?

AGAIN confusion and assumptions and I guess rumors. The ONLY picture I ever saw circulating about a bed for sell by CL was she was selling the bed that AL posted a picture of himself laying in. Where did this rumor come from that it was her daughter's bed?

More lies, rumors taken as fact, and diarrhea of the mouth by people who believe everything they read or hear. Maybe I need a break from this board. If I wasn't CRAZY when I got here all this DRAMA and jumping to conclusions and posting of rumors as facts will make you that way. I feel like I'm beating my head against a brick wall.

I don't know if CL is guilty or not. I do believe she deserves a fair trial. I'm open minded enough to believe she may have mislead her friends about her knowledge of AL's record and I even posted that here the other day (although nobody even bothered to mention that fact when they go off posting everything else they love to tear apart that I post).

God I pray the group of peers on the jury are not closed minded and don't believe rumors as fact. I sure hope the jury doesn't have a lynch mob mentality as others have also made mention is rampant on this board.

 

[nojusticenusa]

a moot point: a side issue, problem or question which does not have to be decided to resolve the main issues in a dispute.

4. The Def disputes Plaintiff entitlement to divorce on grounds of indignities as none are proven, aside from moot circumstances , the Plaintiff may be pregnant.

I may be wrong and don't know how to word what I am trying to say. But I THINK he is speaking of Plaintiff may be pregnant.

I don't need the definition of moot. I know what the word means. I'm not DUMB contrary to popular belief on this board.

What my question was asking and sorry if ONCE AGAIN I misspoke or was NOT clear enough in my details. I was asking how moot applies to what AL was saying in his document to the judge. He said moot circumstances. I didn't understand what he was trying to say.

 

[nojusticenusa]

Dunno, She got served with the Emerg Custody change at 915, went and obtained Holiman as attny for the theft chg filed at 1 something and 2 something she electronically filed for divorce. Funny thing on that, I noticed that AL sent the Response paperwork to Holiman ! AND set himself up a transport from prison to court

Not sure why the Aug 27th date.. prob got coached from the lawyer, but she filed it pro se also. AL has also asked for time to conduct discovery ... sounds interesting... Wonder where he gonna get it from? lol

Can you tell us how you came to the conclusion she obtained a lawyer the day she was served with emerg custody change paperwork? Is that reported somewhere I missed? You have a link? Just asking because I happen to know you are 100% misinformed. Are you saying the theft charge was filed at 1 on same day as the emerg custody paperwork? Your post is confusing me. If that is what you are saying then Naw, misinformed AGAIN.

Are you stating that CL filed divorce paperwork electronically at 2? Again, I'm confused by your post. IF that is what you are saying then Naw, misinformed AGAIN!

Aug 27th date coached by the lawyer? MOre assumptions? You have a link? The fact that she filed it pro se would mean no lawyer was involved with that document.

I'm sure if AL is representing himself pro se then he has every right to discovery just like an attorney would be able to get. He is now in fact his own attorney. I don't like him nor care for his antics but I darn well support his right to a FAIR trial. Regardless of what my personal thoughts are of him.


Let me help you out here:

9/29 CL charged with Theft by Receiving
A few days later she meets with lawyer and he takes her case (I do not remember the exact date but I remember it being a day or two after the charge when she told me she had met with him and he was pro bono on her case)
10/15 Ex files for emergency custody
10/16 Judge signs ex parte order (note court shows this as ex "orate" order) and assigns a court date of October 21 @ 11:00 a.m.
10/17 CL served at her home @9:15 a.m. (posting date of the court shows 10/20 @ 8:44 a.m. but actual doc shows service on 10/17 @ 9:15 a.m.) This document also shows she is to appear in court on 10/21 @ 11:00 a.m. for a court hearing on the matter
10/17 @1:13 p.m. date the court posted entry of appearance of Holiman as her attorney on TBR charge (does not mean this is date he got on case just date court entered information into system as can be seen in example above) It is also of reference that his name does not show as the attorney of record on her divorce from AL yet as you pointed out clearly he is and AL is aware of this fact because you posted this is who AL served with his answer to the divorce paperwork. He is also attorney who represented her in custody issue on Oct 21 court appearance, as his name appears on some of that paperwork as has been pointed out by others on this board YET mysteriously his name does not show as attorney of record BUT I bet Butler will confirm that he was one that appeared in court with her on 10/21. Also his name does not show as attorney of record on her criminal case of kidnapping/murder yet I clearly remember him being interviewed the day after she was arrested as her attorney of record. Just pointing out that things aren't always correct in the court system.
10/21 @ 11:00 a.m. hearing on custody and CL was told to take urine test and come back to court at 1:00 p.m. with results to get daughter back
10/21 @ 1:18 the second 1/2 of the hearing was cancelled due to urine test false positive result and her being told to get hair follicle test and that hearing would be rescheduled as soon as hair follicle results came back
10/30 CL arrested
11/13 this hearing was cancelled but was supposed to be hearing she was to get her daughter back after passing the hair follicle test.



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[nojusticenusa]

I agree .. Not making an excuse for her at all . Like I said she is selfish and manipulative : and you're so right about the whole dating thing. I mean, IMO .. Eharmony is one thing.. Plenty of fish is probably another: seeing a shirtless AL send a hey sexy mssg ugh.
I don't know any woman her age on sites like that but there are some. Low standards much?

She wasn't forced into anything imo and she kidnapped or held Beverly against her will and caused her death. Her along with at least one other person.

Please don't take my disgust for seeing his Narcissistic personality peaking as CL defense. It's not.

She is CHARGED with kidnapping and holding Beverly against her will and causing her death with at least one other person.

Seriously not being snarky against you SavvyRose but wanted to point out that you too have been told FALSE info from others unless I'm mistake weren't you told by a "reliable source" that they led police to the concrete plant where Beverly's body was found YET now we find out from official LE documents that is NOT true because they say phones led them to the body? Of course maybe BOTH are true and LE just hasn't reported the other part of your "reliable source". See how that could work?<Mod Snip>

IF people don't like what I post then by all means do your own research. <Mod Snip> I'm not the one on trial. I've never known any friend that was 100% forthcoming with everything in their life to other friends. Do any of you tell your friends EVERYTHING? Again I will say "raise your hand" and none will be raised.

A lot of what I post is my personal observations of CL and what I witnessed. I could be 100% wrong.

 

[SavvyRose]

She is CHARGED with kidnapping and holding Beverly against her will and causing her death with at least one other person.

Seriously not being snarky against you SavvyRose but wanted to point out that you too have been told FALSE info from others unless I'm mistake weren't you told by a "reliable source" that they led police to the concrete plant where Beverly's body was found YET now we find out from official LE documents that is NOT true because they say phones led them to the body? Of course maybe BOTH are true and LE just hasn't reported the other part of your "reliable source". See how that could work? <Mod Snip>

IF people don't like what I post then by all means do your own research. <Mod Snip> I'm not the one on trial. I've never known any friend that was 100% forthcoming with everything in their life to other friends. Do any of you tell your friends EVERYTHING? Again I will say "raise your hand" and none will be raised.

A lot of what I post is my personal observations of CL and what I witnessed. I could be 100% wrong.

I knew that was going to bite me! Lol. I didn't realize what I said till later when I re-read Itzel It was too late to edit. Yes she has been charged.. I worded it as if she has been convicted and that was wrong.

Yes, I was told a different scenario on what led them to Cabot plant: that was why I posted, in your defense yesterday, that things get mixed up and that I've been guilty of posting information from the "telephone" game and had it wrong.

I am glad I'm not a VI after seeing what you go through. I am not as thick skinned as you and couldn't handle being picked apart like I'm the one on trial. I see both sides.. Re-reading does have an advantage because you can put together what has been assumed with what is now known. However, it does look like you've had to answer for or defend a lot of what you said and that's not fair.

I appreciate your knowledge here. Sorry this is upsetting. I can understand.

 

[TTF14]

Wasting your breath @Tullula.Belle. Thanks anyway.

I wouldn't stay at my house either if my husband was on the run, face all over media, pictures of my house and address all over the media, neighbors giving interviews about my life. Heck no. I would have got the h311 out of there too. Reporters were still knocking on her door days after she returned home. Nope can't say as I blame her for staying elsewhere. Beating my head on concrete now. Poking my eyes out with pencils. Less painful than continuing to read this nonsense.

lol....I can't believe you haven't left already. Like Savvy said, you're more thick skinned than I am, for sure! I hope you don't leave!