AR AR - Cassie Compton, 15, Stuttgart, 14 Sept 2014 #5

[GigTu]

From the driveway, I don't see any other logical entrance.

I see two doors in there (circled in green):

 

[GigTu]

Bumping-reference to fenced yard for Cassie's dogs.

The fencing is on the opposite side of the house, away from the alley:

 

[Skeeter]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=11518385

Bumping up for reference

 

[Skeeter]

1. Can someone recall the first arrest/release date for BR?

2. And the time frame that CC fb acct became deactivated /closed?

3. It was mentioned on here that cc and br became friends on fb, when was that?

 

[Steleheart]

BTW, I've suggested this before and I really hope LE/FBI did this.... it seems that it would be valuable to know where BR actually was from say... 3pm until 9:00 pm in 9/14/14. Every moment in that timeframe.

I have no reason to believe this other than a hunch, but I have a feeling BR was not home, or was sleeping, or out of it on drugs or drunk or something. I don't think he heard or saw Cassie that night. BR and HS were FB friends, and who knows if they were in contact that weekend. It's in his and Cassie's best interest for him to speak up about that (to LE, not to me). It's possible Cassie's 'delivery home' was timed to match the scenario of JC sick in bed and BR not around.

JC needs to march down to that jail and plead with him to come clean.

Neither BR nor JC have stated they saw or heard Cassie that night. They only heard someone in the house. Poof, Cassie's overnight bag and purse are home, but she and her phone are nowhere to be found.

Regardless of her public reputation, I have great sympathy for JC and I genuinely feel she has no idea what happened to Cassie.

And I find it peculiar that BR called TS three times unless he really didn't see her come home.

All fingers point to the HS camp. Something is not quite matching up there.

This is where I keep getting stuck. The fact that BR called TS 3 times when supposedly he "saw" Cassie arrive home. Even a dimwit would know not to keep doing that if he was involved. I do not think he was there at all. Or else he was with JC in another room when JC called out "hey baby girl" with, AFAIK no response.
That would mean that the story from TS that HS saw him when he dropped Cassie off is bogus. I just FEEL like it is because her story has not been corroborated, so JMO. From an LE standpoint it seems reasonable that, with no other indications, LE would consider JC and BR as suspects only because of their RSO status and nothing else.

The FB friendship with HS baffled me and I was unable to see on the activity timeline when they actually became friends. It could have been a recent thing, otherwise that friend thing makes no sense unless there is some kind of connection regarding other ' interests'.

 

[Steleheart]

Another aspect I wanted to mention is the relationship between CC and HS. They are teenagers and teen hormones crazy unpredictable. In the beginning, my impression was, just going by TS, that they were just 'friends'. What kind of teens are just friends and have sleepovers? Girls usually, not a boy and a girl. In my experience that was not possible unless the boy was gay and not a threat. Older than teens I can buy it then because I can prove it, LOL. Actually not, because even my wife and I were just friends at first but that didn't last long, haha. But we were in our 20's. If there was this 'friend' thing and maybe they slept separately, is it possible that HS had a different idea about their relationship? I know I have wondered before if this could create a tension where Cassie might be 'unusually quiet' on the ride from the derby.
Not making any accusations but when you pick apart the only source of the details it seems like the story could unravel. We originally assumed she was quiet because she was anticipating something at home she did not want to face. Or is that what we were supposed to think.

:cow:

 

[believe09]

This is where I keep getting stuck. The fact that BR called TS 3 times when supposedly he "saw" Cassie arrive home. Even a dimwit would know not to keep doing that if he was involved. I do not think he was there at all. Or else he was with JC in another room when JC called out "hey baby girl" with, AFAIK no response.
That would mean that the story from TS that HS saw him when he dropped Cassie off is bogus. I just FEEL like it is because her story has not been corroborated, so JMO. From an LE standpoint it seems reasonable that, with no other indications, LE would consider JC and BR as suspects only because of their RSO status and nothing else.

The FB friendship with HS baffled me and I was unable to see on the activity timeline when they actually became friends. It could have been a recent thing, otherwise that friend thing makes no sense unless there is some kind of connection regarding other ' interests'.

I am stuck there as well-I mean it is possible that the conversation as it was reported wasnt entirely true...it could have been about whether or not HS picked Cassie up later, after she left the house for smokes. Still, either way, it makes no sense as TS reported it. jmvho.

 

[believe09]

I am perplexed about the house, although I dont doubt what you have done GigTu.

What happens in case of a fire on the car port side? Everyone heads out of the windows?

 

[GigTu]

I am perplexed about the house, although I dont doubt what you have done GigTu.

What happens in case of a fire on the car port side? Everyone heads out of the windows?

I'm pretty sure there is a door on that side of the house that we can't see.

 

[GigTu]

Another aspect I wanted to mention is the relationship between CC and HS. They are teenagers and teen hormones crazy unpredictable. In the beginning, my impression was, just going by TS, that they were just 'friends'. What kind of teens are just friends and have sleepovers? Girls usually, not a boy and a girl. In my experience that was not possible unless the boy was gay and not a threat. Older than teens I can buy it then because I can prove it, LOL. Actually not, because even my wife and I were just friends at first but that didn't last long, haha. But we were in our 20's. If there was this 'friend' thing and maybe they slept separately, is it possible that HS had a different idea about their relationship? I know I have wondered before if this could create a tension where Cassie might be 'unusually quiet' on the ride from the derby.
Not making any accusations but when you pick apart the only source of the details it seems like the story could unravel. We originally assumed she was quiet because she was anticipating something at home she did not want to face. Or is that what we were supposed to think

When I first started focusing on this aspect, I felt maybe something occurred when she spent the night. Or they had a fight about that sleepover while driving home. Either TS is straight up lying, or doesn't know that something went sideways on the ride home. Who's phone pinged in Casscoe? What time? Where was HS from 6:45 to 9:15am the next morning? We don't know.

 

[iamnotagolem]

I'm gonna take it all the way back....

Do we have anyone other than TS saying HS & CC were friends? Was this the first social activity they had done together? Did anyone see them together, well ever? Did Judy see CC leave? When exactly did CC leave? It's been indicated that CC & HS became friends in the 3 weeks prior to CC's disappearance, by TS. Has anyone else confirmed this? And for the love of all that is holy, WERE THEY AT THE DERBY?????

Maybe we've been looking at this all wrong. Maybe we're taking for granted that Cassie had plans to go to the derby with TS & HS. What if something happened to Cassie Friday night or Saturday? When was the last time JC saw Cassie? The "derby" would have given some time to think and plan.

Or everything is exactly as it seems, HS dropped CC off at home that fateful Sunday night. BR murdered CC then draped CC across his handle bars and rode to an unknown location and disposed of the body. Then pretend started to try to track Cassie down, calling TS, going to the police station, etc. When he could have just acted like Cassie never came home.

 

[iron_angel]

It's been indicated that CC & HS became friends in the 3 weeks prior to CC's disappearance, by TS. Has anyone else confirmed this?

Could it be possible that the alleged 'being friends for 3 weeks' means that Cassie and HS knew each other for a longer period but instead the 'being friends for 3 weeks' means they have been dating for 3 weeks? I know this is only speculation but it could give us some more stuff to talk about like what if there was a bad break-up between the 2 etc

 

[believe09]

And for the love of all that is holy, WERE THEY AT THE DERBY?????

OK this isnt funny, but :floorlaugh: and :banghead:


The eternal question. Please someone tell us if she was at the derby. Just show us the proof.

 

[believe09]

Or everything is exactly as it seems, HS dropped CC off at home that fateful Sunday night. BR murdered CC then draped CC across his handle bars and rode to an unknown location and disposed of the body. Then pretend started to try to track Cassie down, calling TS, going to the police station, etc. When he could have just acted like Cassie never came home.

Again, :floorlaugh: and :banghead:

This deserved it's own separate post.

Theater of the absurd....the longer this goes on, the more that comes to light and helps us focus in. You are so right-of course he would have just pretended she never came home if he was planning on killing her or killed her that night. Duh.

Doing a little bit of a 180 at this point...butthead seems to be the one sounding the alarm. If they/he sounded an alarm that soon after she left the house/never returned to the house, they/he clearly believed that she was in some kind of danger wherever she was. jmvho. So who does butthead/BR call but HS over and over and over.

Huh.

 

[lovinlife83]

Or.... HS Drops Cassie off. BR makes inappropriate advances towards CC. CC walks out with her cell phone and leaves. BR frantically looks for her and starts making calls. CC is either hiding, met with bad luck after...or BR does find her Sunday evening and disappears her so she won't tell.

 

[GigTu]

I believe JC did wake up from her medicated slumber and asked BR about Cassie, which initiated him calling around.

To be fair an honest, all the things BR and JC say make sense. They haven't said much is the problem. And JC was a hot mess from being medicated up and sick in bed, so she just doesn't really know anything and remembers things from a hazed state.

I don't think BR says much because he wasn't home, or was stoned or drunk and incapacitated too. Was he in the bedroom with JC when JC spoke to Cassie through the door? I just really feel that if we could get those two numbskulls to speak out, we could finally move past them.

If BR did do something to Cassie, he will eventually get caught. He doesn't seem none too bright. Burglarizing homes is not violent, it's cowardice. Has he ever been arrested for violence?

Also, BR has not been accused of nor convicted for any sex crimes as mentioned above. It was JC and her ex husband who have those convictions.

 

[Steleheart]

I believe JC did wake up from her medicated slumber and asked BR about Cassie, which initiated him calling around.

To be fair an honest, all the things BR and JC say make sense. They haven't said much is the problem. And JC was a hot mess from being medicated up and sick in bed, so she just doesn't really know anything and remembers things from a hazed state.

I don't think BR says much because he wasn't home, or was stoned or drunk and incapacitated too. Was he in the bedroom with JC when JC spoke to Cassie through the door? I just really feel that if we could get those two numbskulls to speak out, we could finally move past them.

If BR did do something to Cassie, he will eventually get caught. He doesn't seem none too bright. Burglarizing homes is not violent, it's cowardice. Has he ever been arrested for violence?

Also, BR has not been accused of nor convicted for any sex crimes as mentioned above. It was JC and her ex husband who have those convictions.

OOPS ~ And I knew that too.

 

[lovinlife83]

I believe JC did wake up from her medicated slumber and asked BR about Cassie, which initiated him calling around.

To be fair an honest, all the things BR and JC say make sense. They haven't said much is the problem. And JC was a hot mess from being medicated up and sick in bed, so she just doesn't really know anything and remembers things from a hazed state.

I don't think BR says much because he wasn't home, or was stoned or drunk and incapacitated too. Was he in the bedroom with JC when JC spoke to Cassie through the door? I just really feel that if we could get those two numbskulls to speak out, we could finally move past them.

If BR did do something to Cassie, he will eventually get caught. He doesn't seem none too bright. Burglarizing homes is not violent, it's cowardice. Has he ever been arrested for violence?

Also, BR has not been accused of nor convicted for any sex crimes as mentioned above. It was JC and her ex husband who have those convictions.

Br's juvenile record is sealed - I wouldn't scrap the idea that he has prior convictions. I wish some of his family were VIs.

 

[believe09]

I believe JC did wake up from her medicated slumber and asked BR about Cassie, which initiated him calling around.

To be fair an honest, all the things BR and JC say make sense. They haven't said much is the problem. And JC was a hot mess from being medicated up and sick in bed, so she just doesn't really know anything and remembers things from a hazed state.

I don't think BR says much because he wasn't home, or was stoned or drunk and incapacitated too. Was he in the bedroom with JC when JC spoke to Cassie through the door? I just really feel that if we could get those two numbskulls to speak out, we could finally move past them.

If BR did do something to Cassie, he will eventually get caught. He doesn't seem none too bright. Burglarizing homes is not violent, it's cowardice. Has he ever been arrested for violence?

Also, BR has not been accused of nor convicted for any sex crimes as mentioned above. It was JC and her ex husband who have those convictions.

I know we have seen media where JC said she was unwell, but I havent seen anything where she self disclosed she was in a medicated haze, or stoned, drunk or incapacitated. Are you theorizing?

BR has been around the block a little when it comes to police and the criminal justice system-I suppose it could have been bravado that brought him to SPD on 9/14 if he actually went, and our VI's seem to indicate that he was known for being a braggart.

If we accept that he went and we accept that he made the frantic phone calls to HS, it seems more like urgently reaching out because he thought Cassie was maybe in trouble. Rather than putting some master plan in place that he conceived in the hour between when she allegedly disappeared and the time JC claims they started trying to find her via phone.

We speculated how well SPD might have known BR-I wonder how well they knew the other players who have been brought up here?

 

[GigTu]

I know we have seen media where JC said she was unwell, but I havent seen anything where she self disclosed she was in a medicated haze, or stoned, drunk or incapacitated. Are you theorizing?

BR has been around the block a little when it comes to police and the criminal justice system-I suppose it could have been bravado that brought him to SPD on 9/14 if he actually went, and our VI's seem to indicate that he was known for being a braggart.

If we accept that he went and we accept that he made the frantic phone calls to HS, it seems more like urgently reaching out because he thought Cassie was maybe in trouble. Rather than putting some master plan in place that he conceived in the hour between when she allegedly disappeared and the time JC claims they started trying to find her via phone.

We speculated how well SPD might have known BR-I wonder how well they knew the other players who have been brought up here?

No, I have no statements to back up that she was medicated. I stand corrected, and will say it's theoretical thinking.

So I just basically stated why I feel they might be unknowledgable about Cassie's whereabouts, but I also can't understand why only those two were specifically named POIs. Do you think SPD fell into the same trap we did, which was speculate based on prior reputation and ... let's face it ... the knowledge that a crime of this potential nature 'usually' takes place from someone in the home (assuming Cassie did not run away). In other words, why was this police department so quick to focus on JC and BR? What evidence does LE have and why haven't they shared it? Why let it go to a cold case?