AR - Josh Duggar Admits Molesting Girls As A Teenager - #3

[Tony1902]

IMO, Anna Duggar will be persuaded to absorb any blame in this latest saga with Josh. The family has probably been busy helping her to see how she has "failed" in her role as a wife. This type of radical religion makes me sick.

Yeah man, when you can't learn to eat a Popsicle correctly, there are CONSEQUENCES in this religion/cult/screwed-up brainwash/mind---.

 

[Cardinal47]

I haven't heard him apologize even once yet. I've read two half arsed "apology" notes but haven't heard him say a word.

Google is your friend. There were too many to list. Pick one.

https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=josh+dugger+apologies&ei=UTF-8&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-001

 

[flourish]

Google is your friend. There were too many to list. Pick one.

https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=josh+dugger+apologies&ei=UTF-8&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-001

Oh, I thought they meant there's only been written statements, not an actual apology one could literally hear?


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[gitana1]

Why do they need a seminar? Shouldn't it just be something like wait until you're married to have sex and then have sex only with your spouse? I can tell people that for free.

Kind of related, the following is very funny. But warning the descriptions and language about sex will very likely be offensive to some people. Also, do not read if you are sensitive about waiting until marriage (and the fictional couple in the story are Lutherans, so no offense to Lutherans who are wonderful people)!

http://www.theonion.com/article/horribly-awkward-first-sexual-encounter-worth-the--1614

 

[LyndyLoo]

When sex is so forbidden, it's easy to become obsessed with it because it's so taboo. And there is a lot of kind of obsessing about it. At least in my experience. For example as a young child I was frequently asked things like "have you let the let any boys touch you?" Now that's wrong on a bunch of levels because I didn't care about boys yet. I certainly didn't have boys trying to touch me and I didn't want them to and the whole thing just creeped me out and see how all of it was put on me--did you let them, not did they try, not have they forced you, it's did you let them.

So when you are told back rubs lead to sex, suddenly back rubs are "foreplay." You are on The alert for anything sexual which has the impact of making you very aware of anything remotely sexual so you can avoid it and also makes you see the sexual side of everything if that makes sense.


The very act of trying to avoid sexuality makes one hyper aware of sexuality.


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Forbidden Fruit will always promote obsessions...I think that bible story about that "Apple on the tree of knowledge" illustrates it very well..Thus for some reason God ( at least in the story) since Eve took that bite..Radical religions will always blame the FEMALE for the sin..regardless IF the male was the one who actually forever more does the SIN!!

I find this nonsense..since logic tells anyone with half a brain of education..Males as young adults KNOW when they are sinning or doing something wrong..YET radical religion somehow gives them a PASS of responsibility!! It's Shameful really unless you are one who adopted this "Get out of Jail Free Excuse Card" which somehow allowed them to be selfish and self-absorbed...I just SMH!! Such Ignorance!!

This too explains why such extreme views allowed rapists and blame of victims that was able to be perpetuated for so long...Humanity has evolved..BUT not folks like these..and Yes..Out of Despirations they WILL continue to victimize women within their "Cults" ! Hopeful They can somehow also be held accountable i the future!!

 

[LyndyLoo]

One thing that is very clear to me..Poor Anna is between rock and hard place..She knows she has no rights or privilege within this Cult..and IF she choses to leave..They will take away the arrows (children) from that designated "Quiver"..So she has to accept the burden of blame to somehow divert the actual blame from Josh and his Family!! I regret she doesn't have proper representations ( where's Gloria Allred when you need her?) as I'd bet she'd prevail IF she had the support..At least it sounds like her brother is on the side of what should be done..BUT Anne is under direct control of these Cultish type folks!! My heart goes out to her..I will never blame her for her position..as she is actually a VICTIM of manipulations...SMH!!

 

[human]

Kind of related, the following is very funny. But warning the descriptions and language about sex will very likely be offensive to some people. Also, do not read if you are sensitive about waiting until marriage (and the fictional couple in the story are Lutherans, so no offense to Lutherans who are wonderful people)!

http://www.theonion.com/article/horribly-awkward-first-sexual-encounter-worth-the--1614

Not sure if this would be funny to non Minnesodans, but I think they should take Lutheran airlines

LUTHERAN AIRLINES - YouTube
www.youtube.com/watch?v=KakIacaDyCI

 

[Doghairrules]

IMO, Anna Duggar will be persuaded to absorb any blame in this latest saga with Josh. The family has probably been busy helping her to see how she has "failed" in her role as a wife. This type of radical religion makes me sick.

Probably Jim Bob and Michelle will take them out for some "miniature golf" so anna can see the error of her ways.


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[Montjoy]

In another thread, I read that this thread has been considered as anti-Christian. I do not believe that this is the case, but I wanted to throw it out here, to anyone who is reading -- does anyone think that this thread is 'anti-Christian', and if so, in what way?

 

[bluesneakers]

In another thread, I read that this thread has been considered as anti-Christian. I do not believe that this is the case, but I wanted to throw it out here, to anyone who is reading -- does anyone think that this thread is 'anti-Christian', and if so, in what way?

No. I think people have been respectful and careful to distinguish between what they think of the Duggars and what Christianity is or means. I know there have been generalizations based on individual experiences, and some discussion about is there such a thing as a "true" Christian, but I haven't seen any posts I would call anti-Christian. Some opinions are negative, but imo it's not the same thing as bashing or making bigoted comments.

I've seen Anti-QF/anti-cult comments though, so if someone believes the Duggars are practicing a perfectly acceptable flavor of Christianity maybe they would see comments here as anti-Christian.

 

[Montjoy]

No. I think people have been respectful and careful to distinguish between what they think of the Duggars and what Christianity is or means. I know there have been generalizations based on individual experiences, and some discussion about is there such a thing as a "true" Christian, but I haven't seen any posts I would call anti-Christian. Some opinions are negative, but imo it's not the same thing as bashing or making bigoted comments.

I've seen Anti-QF/anti-cult comments though, so if someone believes the Duggars are practicing a perfectly acceptable flavor of Christianity maybe they would see comments here as anti-Christian.

I think that much of the criticism against the Duggars has been with an eye to protecting Christianity.

I mean, if someone as a member of a supposedly Christian Neo-Nazi group posts here, are we to feel obligated to defend an offensive statement because the poster asserts s/he is Christian? I think that most people would distinguish the Christian parts from the Neo-Nazi parts.

 

[MsFacetious]

X-Rated! Star Danica Dillon Claims Josh Duggar Cheated On Pregnant Anna With Her

http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/josh-duggar-🤬🤬🤬🤬-star-danica-dillon-cheating-hotel/

Nike!!! :dunno:

 

[LinasK]

Anna Duggar after the molestation scandal.

a man who knows how to be a gentleman and treat a girl right.

BBM. treat a girl right??? molesting your sisters and cheating on your wife is treating a girl right?????

 

[gitana1]

Not sure if this would be funny to non Minnesodans, but I think they should take Lutheran airlines

LUTHERAN AIRLINES - YouTube
www.youtube.com/watch?v=KakIacaDyCI

I would want want to sit in rows 1-6 because then all I have to do is bring the rolls.

 

[human]

X-Rated! Star Danica Dillon Claims Josh Duggar Cheated On Pregnant Anna With Her

http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/josh-duggar-🤬🤬🤬🤬-star-danica-dillon-cheating-hotel/

Nike!!! :dunno:

Wow. I don't want to do a Bill Cosby in not believing the woman, but wow! How did they meet up?

I have believed everything all along, but if this is true and Anna is standing by her man, then there is no hope.

 

[gitana1]

In another thread, I read that this thread has been considered as anti-Christian. I do not believe that this is the case, but I wanted to throw it out here, to anyone who is reading -- does anyone think that this thread is 'anti-Christian', and if so, in what way?

The thread has a definite anti- right wing Christian bent. Especially anti-Christian fundamentalism. It also has posts criticizing religious fundamentalism in general.

But it it is not a Christian-bashing thread. I am Christian myself. (Catholic). I've seen nothing to indicate that any of this sex abuse and infidelity stuff stems from Christianity in general or that Christianity in general is bad.

But I can understand why conservative Christians might get that sense and feel uncomfortable here.

Remember, the Duggars and their ilk, who are radical, right-wing, extremist fundamentalists, have been role models and heroes to more mainstream conservative Christians (think Calvary and other mega-churches and regular baptists, etc.,) for a long time. The radicalism of the duggars is not followed by those mainstream Christians and many of the more extreme practices of the duggars are seen as "old fashioned" by the mainstream, but also quaint and if not admirable, at least certainly respected.

In fact, the duggars and others in their movement, have been quite influential in the spread to the mainstream of some of the concepts they champion such as patriarchal "headship"/wifely submission, homeschooling, purity rings, father/daughter purity balls and the use of a very systematic child "training" that involves the deliberate and cold-blooded corporal punishment of children starting as toddlers and the total submission of he child to parental authority.

I'm basing my opinion on hundreds of comments I have read over the years by duggar apologists and fans who are not extremists, as well as on years of reading articles about Cristian dominionism, the Christian homeschooling movement, child training, Christian patriarchy, Christian parenting and marriage, various websites and message boards and even shows like Supernanny which have featured mainstream Christians employing systematic child abuse methods (spanking a toddler while hugging her and demanding she "trust and obey") explaining that method was learned in a seminar at church,for example.

 

[Donjeta]

Wow. I don't want to do a Bill Cosby in not believing the woman, but wow! How did they meet up?

I have believed everything all along, but if this is true and Anna is standing by her man, then there is no hope.

Well as far as not believing the woman, it's not her telling that to the Radar Online, it's "sources" saying that's what she was "hinting" at in their private conversations.
But apparently he used his fake FB to seek out various Nike goddesses.

As Radar reported, Duggar used the email address [email protected] to set up a fake Facebook account under the name “Joe Smithson,” the same name and email address he used to set up his Ashley Madison account. There, he befriended roughly 30 stars, bar tenders, lingerie models, and other hot young women.

Re: anti-Christianity: I am actually a member of a Christian church myself... But insofar as Christianity is construed to mean the ATI sort of mindset in which men are supposed to be half gods in women's eyes, normal sexual thoughts are bad bad bad until you get married and then you have to be boinking every minute of every hour, everything is always the woman's fault, sexual abuse should be swept under the rug and the victims need to forgive and continue to serve the offender because God forgave him and everything is always the woman's fault anyway, and people, especially men, get a pass for any kind of appalling behavior and abuse as long as they say that Christ forgave them when they get busted, and then women have to pretend nothing ever happened and continue to submit themselves and their children to the 's "authority".... yes if that is what Christianity means to you, you might find me anti-Christian. JMO I don't think that's what Jesus meant, but if he did I'd want nothing to do with him.

 

[gitana1]

Here is a link to a 20/20 expose of the sect/culture the Duggars are a part of and how they address sexual abuse:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hF_b5kEZyLw

This is key to understanding the Duggar molestation scandal, why Anna has stayed and why the victims are supportive of Josh.

It also supports my view that the culture directly fosters molesters and serial adulterers like Josh duggar as well as wife beaters and the intense physical abuse of children. It covers it ALL. Everything that is really going on with the Duggars, the BAteses and families like theirs.

This is a must see.

 

[TorisMom003]

Oh, I thought they meant there's only been written statements, not an actual apology one could literally hear?


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Yes, that is exactly what I meant. We have heard from JB and Michelle (about the molesting his sisters) and from two of his victims (about molesting them). We have not heard from Josh himself about any of this. He has "issued an apology letter", two of them now, but he has not actually spoken an apology. Instead he is letting his "parents" and two of his victims make excuses for him.

 

[Mountaingazer]

X-Rated! Star Danica Dillon Claims Josh Duggar Cheated On Pregnant Anna With Her

http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/josh-duggar-🤬🤬🤬🤬-star-danica-dillon-cheating-hotel/

Nike!!! :dunno:

I figured it was only a matter of time before some of his "partners" started to get leaked.