I agree. My belief is that they thought there would just be a quick settlement with a huge payout, that it would be an open and shut case. I've never been a fan of Dr Phil but I'm glad they didn't back down and I hope it makes it to trial.
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I agree. My belief is that they thought there would just be a quick settlement with a huge payout, that it would be an open and shut case. I've never been a fan of Dr Phil but I'm glad they didn't back down and I hope it makes it to trial.
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Was Joran watched when he left Aruba and went to college in 2008?
He spent time in Muang Ake, a suburb of Bangkok, Thailand, to study business at Rangsit University. Then no longer choosing to be a student he dropped out and bought a small cafe near the campus.
This time away (especially the area he chose to live) creeps me out. He had easy access to young women and women with a certain lifestyle who may not have been missed...
In August of 2009, calling himself a "professional poker player" he joined the Asia Pacific Poker tour. (Did he actually tour or was this a figment of his imagination?)
When he was arrested in Peru, there were some grumbles about possible victims left along the way - the authorities immediately shut that angle down...
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I think they believed vds would make then disappear too - and never have to answer for it.
I also believe vds was right when he claimed responsibility for PvdS early death, but I do not not believe he lost a moment of sleep over it -
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You took the words right out of my mouth. No, really... I had that typed out in my original post, but deleted it.
But he did good this time - or at least he has good legal advice. The Kalpoe brothers have been dragging their feet and making excuses for not being able to attend depositions, etc. ever since they found out there wasn't going to be a quick settlement. I don't know if he was watched by the authorities while he was in Thailand or not. (Seems the Thai authorities tend to look the other way when it comes to human trafficking anyway.) But Peter DeVries video taped him in a hotel room in Thailand soliciting young women to be 'dancers'. He was using the alias of Steve Stifler (an 'American Pie' character). It's been rumored the authorities have been looking into missing women in Thailand and the connection to JVS since his arrest.
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That's exactly my point.
No one wants to or can tell her how to feel, but how to deal with them in a positive way. Can you specify "unique"? Trying to understand JVS is truly taking on a whole new ballgame, I agree and not to be taken lightly. I'm seeing the cover up in Aruba as the "uniqueness" your talking about. It happens in the US everyday, but having it happen in a foreign country undoubtedly adds to her justified frustration. I'm sure her emotions and thinking have gone the gambit, and any good therapist would certainly be a benefit. But, your right, they can't help her if she doesn't want it.
I think what it comes down to ...still....is she is wanting answers from him and as much as I and everyone else want those same answers for her, I just don't see JVS giving it up. Think about it, he knows even if they put a gun to his head, the truth would still be questionable...for he knows there is no way at this point Beth wants to see him dead..in her search for the truth. He goes so does her hope of ever finding out.
Why not the same squeeze on the Kalpoe's to gather info or does she think they know nothing?
JMO
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I don't think it's just JVS, I think it may be the "other" people in the know and their ties. Any close associates of Paulus or even Anita at this point. I'm not so sure Paulus was a straight arrow in regards to his unknown activities. Don't want to speak ill of the dead, but jmo.
ETA: I still think someone tipped Joran off about the sting and why his sudden trip to SA.
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Beth has made his life miserable?! He ruined MANY people's lives, not to mention he deprived Natalee of any life at all! IMHO......
After watching this case closely from the beginning, I don't fault Beth for going to see JVDS in jail. I'm not sure what the motive was, but I'm willing to give her this little sense of revenge, if you will. JVDS is now in jail, where he belonged long ago. It may not be for Natalee and unfortunately another young woman had to loose her life also, but JVDS is most likely no longer going to be able to flit around the world like he's some big celebrity without a care in the world.
The cover-up of this crime started from the day the Twitty family arrived on Aruba and it did involve MANY people in HIGH places. Although at the beginning JVDS attempted to confess, each time his confession was surpressed and then blown off by the authorities in Aruba as a 'misunderstanding.'
The Natalee Holloway case was the most blatant miscarriage of justice that I've ever seen.
K2 will NEVER confess their part in the Natalee Holloway crime. NEVER! They were paid off already, but then the Dr. Phil debacle made everyone, from K2 to those pulling the strings from behind the curtain in Aruba, the idea that they could restore Aruba's tarnished image in the U.S. and K2 another pay-day. Little did they know that Dr. Phil was NOT going to do the easiest thing and pay them off, but he wanted answers. Dr. Phil wanted the TRUTH. "Where is Natalee?"
At the time K2 were going in and out of jail, their step-dad was able to purchse the cyber-cafe where Deepak worked.
He has since sold the cafe. $$$.....When Deepak was arrested that final time, it was the DAY he was to meet Jamie Skeeters for the poly-graph. But Deepak had made the mistake of checking with his attorney, to be sure it was ok to do the poly for Mr. Skeeters..................what a coinky-deenk! :croc:
I could go on and on and on, about the back-room shenanigans that surrounded this case, but I'm sure I'd just be boring you. Let's just suffice it to say that after this last piece of work that JVDS did by contacting the Holloway attorney is a complete outrage and just more proof of the evil that lurks within the mind of Joran VDS.
JVDS is where he belongs! I hope he stays there for the rest of his life. He's a wicked person who knows nothing about human feelings. He destroys everything and everyone he touches. He's poison.
Beth Holloway will forever have my loyalty. I can't imagine the pain that she feels. I don't know how I would react to what this woman, and her entire family has been put through. But if it brought her even the tiniest bit of satisfaction to see JVDS, up front and personal in jail, where there's no one to cover for him, then so be it...............I have no criticism for her actions.
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PS....Oh, and I'm willing to bet that the Dr. Phil case eventually goes away without Dr. Phil getting those answers he's so diligently been seeking for Beth. This was the last big case that Jamie Skeeters worked on before his untimely death.
IMO, he was telling the truth! Deepak REALLY DID SAY what Dr. Phil played on his show. It's Aruba that's lying and you can take that to the bank! .....fran
After watching this case closely from the beginning, I don't fault Beth for going to see JVDS in jail. I'm not sure what the motive was, but I'm willing to give her this little sense of revenge, if you will. JVDS is now in jail, where he belonged long ago. It may not be for Natalee and unfortunately another young woman had to loose her life also, but JVDS is most likely no longer going to be able to flit around the world like he's some big celebrity without a care in the world.
The cover-up of this crime started from the day the Twitty family arrived on Aruba and it did involve MANY people in HIGH places. Although at the beginning JVDS attempted to confess, each time his confession was surpressed and then blown off by the authorities in Aruba as a 'misunderstanding.'
The Natalee Holloway case was the most blatant miscarriage of justice that I've ever seen.
K2 will NEVER confess their part in the Natalee Holloway crime. NEVER! They were paid off already, but then the Dr. Phil debacle made everyone, from K2 to those pulling the strings from behind the curtain in Aruba, the idea that they could restore Aruba's tarnished image in the U.S. and K2 another pay-day. Little did they know that Dr. Phil was NOT going to do the easiest thing and pay them off, but he wanted answers. Dr. Phil wanted the TRUTH. "Where is Natalee?"
At the time K2 were going in and out of jail, their step-dad was able to purchse the cyber-cafe where Deepak worked.
He has since sold the cafe. $$$.....When Deepak was arrested that final time, it was the DAY he was to meet Jamie Skeeters for the poly-graph. But Deepak had made the mistake of checking with his attorney, to be sure it was ok to do the poly for Mr. Skeeters..................what a coinky-deenk! :croc:I could go on and on and on, about the back-room shenanigans that surrounded this case, but I'm sure I'd just be boring you. Let's just suffice it to say that after this last piece of work that JVDS did by contacting the Holloway attorney is a complete outrage and just more proof of the evil that lurks within the mind of Joran VDS.
JVDS is where he belongs! I hope he stays there for the rest of his life. He's a wicked person who knows nothing about human feelings. He destroys everything and everyone he touches. He's poison.
Beth Holloway will forever have my loyalty. I can't imagine the pain that she feels. I don't know how I would react to what this woman, and her entire family has been put through. But if it brought her even the tiniest bit of satisfaction to see JVDS, up front and personal in jail, where there's no one to cover for him, then so be it...............I have no criticism for her actions.
JMHO
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PS....Oh, and I'm willing to bet that the Dr. Phil case eventually goes away without Dr. Phil getting those answers he's so diligently been seeking for Beth. This was the last big case that Jamie Skeeters worked on before his untimely death.
IMO, he was telling the truth! Deepak REALLY DID SAY what Dr. Phil played on his show. It's Aruba that's lying and you can take that to the bank! .....franThey aren't going to say a word about anything as long as they still have $$$$ in their eyes. They were probably told by their lawyer to keep their mouths shut because of the lawsuit.
Joran on the other hand listened to no one, he was smarter than everyone else, he could control everyone else and he knew from 2005 on that he had enough protection around him and he knew that Natalee would never be found, so whatever he said could not be proven in a court of law, all of his different stories and lies worked out very well for him. He learned well from his father, no body, no case.
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I would think that anything K2 were to say during a deposition for the civil suit they brought against Dr. Phil, et al could be subject to further questioning/investigation regarding any criminal activity they and/or JVS participated in. Seems they didn't think this lawsuit thing over very well and have painted themselves into a nice little corner. :croc:
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I sure hope that anything they say could be used in Aruba but if the past is any indictaion, I don't hold out a lot of hope. Is obstruction a crime in Aruba?
I also think in order for them to be brought in again it would have to be something new, if they admitted something in their depos that they never told police.
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Tonight's Dateline had Amber DuBois's mother (Amber was killed by the same sexual predator who killed Chelsea King). Amber's mother confronted the killer's mother, asking for a chance to talk to the man who raped and killed her daughter. The confrontation was caught on camera, so it's clear that others were involved. Several days later, she was allowed to see the killer in the prison and ask him questions. Now, this waste of planetary resources had actually confessed to killing Amber and her body had been recovered, after some months of agony for the family. And still the mother was driven to hear about her baby's last hours.
We can speculate all we want about the strategic aspects of Beth's attempt to see Joran (or documentary set-piece, or whatever it was ). The truth is that victims of terrible crimes all respond differently. Joran is going to be convicted of Stephany's murder; none of his theatrics will change the fact that this time there is a body, forensic evidence, and video. He can blame all his misfortunes on Beth Twitty, but the fact remains that she was not in Peru forcing him to commit murder when he took the life of another young woman. Nor was she in Aruba forcing him to drive off with a drunken Natalee and then spend five years lying about it. Those were his choices. If he feels "harassed," his recourse was and still remains to tell the truth about Natalee's death and the location of her body. She didn't up and dump herself in the ocean (although I still think it possible that there are those in Aruba who know where the body is.)
Who knows what any of us would do if a beloved child disappeared and the person who last saw her and was clearly involved in some way with her disappearance and likely murder got away with it? The anger over their children's murders still drives John Walsh and Marc Klaas; although they channel it differently from Beth, the murders have shaped their lives. I get why she does what she does and could not care less about whether that murderous psychopath in a Peruvian prison feels that someone is making his life hard. He asked for it.
We can speculate all we want about the strategic aspects of Beth's attempt to see Joran (or documentary set-piece, or whatever it was ). The truth is that victims of terrible crimes all respond differently. Joran is going to be convicted of Stephany's murder; none of his theatrics will change the fact that this time there is a body, forensic evidence, and video. He can blame all his misfortunes on Beth Twitty, but the fact remains that she was not in Peru forcing him to commit murder when he took the life of another young woman. Nor was she in Aruba forcing him to drive off with a drunken Natalee and then spend five years lying about it. Those were his choices. If he feels "harassed," his recourse was and still remains to tell the truth about Natalee's death and the location of her body. She didn't up and dump herself in the ocean (although I still think it possible that there are those in Aruba who know where the body is.)
Who knows what any of us would do if a beloved child disappeared and the person who last saw her and was clearly involved in some way with her disappearance and likely murder got away with it? The anger over their children's murders still drives John Walsh and Marc Klaas; although they channel it differently from Beth, the murders have shaped their lives. I get why she does what she does and could not care less about whether that murderous psychopath in a Peruvian prison feels that someone is making his life hard. He asked for it.
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I'm classifying her whole situation as unique. Children (8 mos, 8 yrs or 18 yrs - they are still someone's child) are lost to animals everyday. Usually there is a trace of evidence left behind, that tells a story of some
- animal who committed a terrible act. Occasionally (like Madeleine McCann) the child appears to vanish, aside from leads that went dry - no one is found to be held responsible - the parents are left in limbo. Others are found in rather short order - the murderer is caught, tried and put away for a very long time. Sometimes the victim is not found and the parent may get the occasional, "Come talk to me, let me tell you what I remember." Taunting - mind games.
In this case the perp or perps are known, 5 years later still walking free (prior to 5/30/10) and this
- animal, despite (or in spite of) never being charged - taunts the parent of the victim! The whole island was searched - including places this SOB said Natalee "maybe hidden", with no trace of her ever found... The parents of the perp/perps seem to be aware of/or blind to - the evil in their spawn and did nothing to help these parents find Natalee....The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
Unlike the McManns (who we hear of occasionally, as they look for their daughter) BH has stayed in the public eye - not only for her child's sake, but to help other parents. She is not afraid of controversy - BH is not trying to make friends, she is trying to see justice for her daughter.
A few years ago (at the time of the "faked" Paulus/Joran conversation re human trafficking - I heard BH speak, at that time she was pretty much convinced that Natalee's body was dumped at sea. I think she made peace with this - under the circumstances, that seems a healthy attitude to me...
The turn of events this past May, nailing vds in a sting, with the help of our feds would have landed him in US Federal prison. It wouldn't have been close to forever - as he deserves, but I think BH was willing to take what she could get, in hope that vds would incriminate himself further - With daddy vds out of the way and jvds suddenly very cash poor - there may have been more charges to come. Instead, vds took the money and ran (according to his mother - at the time, he was running from her - trying to have him committed) and he went straight into another family's nightmare.
This time; with no money, no political pull from daddy, mom refusing to embrace him and a video tape showing vds and Stephanie walking into his room, him leaving alone, after giving orders at the front desk to allow his GF to sleep undisturbed - once she was found, it was obvious a mad man had let lose with incredible fury on this defenseless young woman. A second look at Aruba's failure - he's going down.
There were no friends to call, to help him clean up his mess. There was no bogeyman in his hotel room, who sent vds out for coffee and there is no white sandy beach - to sit on while he awaits his fate - boyo is going down hard!
I sincerely hope the authorities make very certain he didn't leave any other parents without their daughters - between Aruba and Peru. There's a lot of ocean out there. Five years, 2 1/2 of which - vds was pretty quiet - in between being a lousy poker player, the talk show circuit, confessing on hidden camera and publishing a book full of lies.
I don't know what BH believes about the K Bros - maybe she just doesn't sense the evil in them that she sees in vds - maybe their talking will do her no good if Natalee can't be found - she wants the man responsible her loss, not those guilty by association.
I honestly don't know what BH was doing in Peru. But I don't doubt she was in charge of her faculties. She may have been doing something for the new video - it may have been something completely different - IDK.
I do not believe it was to "sneak into" Castro Castro - to commit a crime, to tell vds she bares him no ill will, nor to try to pump him for info. I think she knows better - as I said, she has been living with him for 5 years. She knows better than his own mother, what she can and can't get from him - the truth being a biggie.
I hope whatever it was BH was doing, she is still in touch with someone who will tell her - before she steps into the abyss. No doubt at times (early on) she was close. She and her family have shared enough grief and heartbreak. I would hate to find out she is being used for TV ratings, or anything that isn't solely for the good of BH's mission, of Justice For Natalee.
FWIW - I honestly believe vds has much more to fear from BH, than she does from him. vds is a nothing, he's done murdering young women for a very long time. If they press the issue of murder - committed in a robbery, he can be sentenced to death or given life w/o parole. We can only hope, when they close the book on his trial in Peru, they will close the door to his cell and throw away the key.
Personally I have no trouble with him spending all of his days in So America, I think it is safe to say Peru has much harsher conditions - than he will face in Aruba or our own Club Fed. Let the kind citizens of Peru feed and house vds, we don't need him. IMO - life w/o parole, served in Peru - is a much more appropriate penalty then he will serve here, for fraud or, on the off chance that Aruba convicts him of anything to do with Natalee.
Natalee - deserves justice - that corruption in Aruba denied her. Officials allowed the disappearance of an 18 yr old girl - to turn their beautiful island into a cesspool - of bribes and lies. Those officials are personally/directly responsible for the death of Stephanie Flores. All for the sake of a nothing, a no good, nobody.
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If Beth had the approval and blessings of the Peruvian government/prison officials to go in and have her face to face with Joran and take the pleasure in seeing him behind bars...I have no problem with that. As de Vries said they had agreements and rules to abide by. Maybe even SF's family helped in making it possible with de Vries know how and many peoples help. If this is just a documentary on the pain Joran has caused so many peoples and a way for her to recoup her monies in the sting, I say no problem.
However, if they were not aware and she did inject herself into their "system" without their approval then I say bad, bad move on her part and who ever else was involved.
I had thought that Aruba may have given Joran the heads up to the sting operation, but maybe it was a purposeful logistical move on their part, along with US LE in getting him off the island and not being able to come back, after he dissed his father and continued his antics. Maybe Beth has accepted what he said in the video of where Natalee was placed and what happened and this was her compromise of sorts. He's now on foreign soil, away from his family and having to deal with a foreign LE and government, along with a prominent family with ties to such. Karma. Anita will now have to worry about her eldest son's brevity everyday for the rest of her life and wake to that fact/nightmare daily also. I'm sure they didn't think he would take another life, but knew he couldn't make it for long on his own without getting into trouble again. I'd be surprised if Aruba came to his aid now. JMO.
However, if they were not aware and she did inject herself into their "system" without their approval then I say bad, bad move on her part and who ever else was involved.
I had thought that Aruba may have given Joran the heads up to the sting operation, but maybe it was a purposeful logistical move on their part, along with US LE in getting him off the island and not being able to come back, after he dissed his father and continued his antics. Maybe Beth has accepted what he said in the video of where Natalee was placed and what happened and this was her compromise of sorts. He's now on foreign soil, away from his family and having to deal with a foreign LE and government, along with a prominent family with ties to such. Karma. Anita will now have to worry about her eldest son's brevity everyday for the rest of her life and wake to that fact/nightmare daily also. I'm sure they didn't think he would take another life, but knew he couldn't make it for long on his own without getting into trouble again. I'd be surprised if Aruba came to his aid now. JMO.
If he feels "harassed," his recourse was and still remains to tell the truth about Natalee's death and the location of her body. She didn't up and dump herself in the ocean (although I still think it possible that there are those in Aruba who know where the body is.).[/quote]
There is the core of the problem - we dont know what happened.
Joran and the Kalpoes etal arent talking and may never talk.
Had I been Beth I would have been far more interested in visiting
other inmates or officials at Castro Castro/in Peru who might be in a position to persuad <mod snip> to talk?
There is the core of the problem - we dont know what happened.
Joran and the Kalpoes etal arent talking and may never talk.
Had I been Beth I would have been far more interested in visiting
other inmates or officials at Castro Castro/in Peru who might be in a position to persuad <mod snip> to talk?
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I'm classifying her whole situation as unique. Children (8 mos, 8 yrs or 18 yrs - they are still someone's child) are lost to animals everyday. Usually there is a trace of evidence left behind, that tells a story of some
Others are found in rather short order - the murderer is caught, tried and put away for a very long time. Sometimes the victim is not found and the parent may get the occasional, "Come talk to me, let me tell you what I remember." Taunting - mind games.
In this case the perp or perps are known, 5 years later still walking free (prior to 5/30/10) and this
The parents of the perp/perps seem to be aware of/or blind to - the evil in their spawn and did nothing to help these parents find Natalee....The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
Unlike the McManns (who we hear of occasionally, as they look for their daughter) BH has stayed in the public eye - not only for her child's sake, but to help other parents. She is not afraid of controversy - BH is not trying to make friends, she is trying to see justice for her daughter.
A few years ago (at the time of the "faked" Paulus/Joran conversation re human trafficking - I heard BH speak, at that time she was pretty much convinced that Natalee's body was dumped at sea. I think she made peace with this - under the circumstances, that seems a healthy attitude to me...
The turn of events this past May, nailing vds in a sting, with the help of our feds would have landed him in US Federal prison. It wouldn't have been close to forever - as he deserves, but I think BH was willing to take what she could get, in hope that vds would incriminate himself further - With daddy vds out of the way and jvds suddenly very cash poor - there may have been more charges to come. Instead, vds took the money and ran (according to his mother - at the time, he was running from her - trying to have him committed) and he went straight into another family's nightmare.
This time; with no money, no political pull from daddy, mom refusing to embrace him and a video tape showing vds and Stephanie walking into his room, him leaving alone, after giving orders at the front desk to allow his GF to sleep undisturbed - once she was found, it was obvious a mad man had let lose with incredible fury on this defenseless young woman. A second look at Aruba's failure - he's going down.
There were no friends to call, to help him clean up his mess. There was no bogeyman in his hotel room, who sent vds out for coffee and there is no white sandy beach - to sit on while he awaits his fate - boyo is going down hard!
I sincerely hope the authorities make very certain he didn't leave any other parents without their daughters - between Aruba and Peru. There's a lot of ocean out there. Five years, 2 1/2 of which - vds was pretty quiet - in between being a lousy poker player, the talk show circuit, confessing on hidden camera and publishing a book full of lies.
I don't know what BH believes about the K Bros - maybe she just doesn't sense the evil in them that she sees in vds - maybe their talking will do her no good if Natalee can't be found - she wants the man responsible her loss, not those guilty by association.
I honestly don't know what BH was doing in Peru. But I don't doubt she was in charge of her faculties. She may have been doing something for the new video - it may have been something completely different - IDK.
I do not believe it was to "sneak into" Castro Castro - to commit a crime, to tell vds she bares him no ill will, nor to try to pump him for info. I think she knows better - as I said, she has been living with him for 5 years. She knows better than his own mother, what she can and can't get from him - the truth being a biggie.
I hope whatever it was BH was doing, she is still in touch with someone who will tell her - before she steps into the abyss. No doubt at times (early on) she was close. She and her family have shared enough grief and heartbreak. I would hate to find out she is being used for TV ratings, or anything that isn't solely for the good of BH's mission, of Justice For Natalee.
FWIW - I honestly believe vds has much more to fear from BH, than she does from him. vds is a nothing, he's done murdering young women for a very long time. If they press the issue of murder - committed in a robbery, he can be sentenced to death or given life w/o parole. We can only hope, when they close the book on his trial in Peru, they will close the door to his cell and throw away the key.
Personally I have no trouble with him spending all of his days in So America, I think it is safe to say Peru has much harsher conditions - than he will face in Aruba or our own Club Fed. Let the kind citizens of Peru feed and house vds, we don't need him. IMO - life w/o parole, served in Peru - is a much more appropriate penalty then he will serve here, for fraud or, on the off chance that Aruba convicts him of anything to do with Natalee.
Natalee - deserves justice - that corruption in Aruba denied her. Officials allowed the disappearance of an 18 yr old girl - to turn their beautiful island into a cesspool - of bribes and lies. Those officials are personally/directly responsible for the death of Stephanie Flores. All for the sake of a nothing, a no good, nobody.
LCoastMom... you have an extraordinary gift of expression. I agree with -and totally enjoyed - every word of this post. Thank you.
Joran Van Der Sloot Attacks Prison Guard
LIMA, Peru, Oct. 1 (TOTI) --
Joran van der Sloot continues to have issues while incarcerated at Miguel Castro Castro prison in Peru. The latest incident saw van der Sloot go “berserk” and make an escape attempt only days after he was visited in the prison by the mother of Natalee Holloway.
The 23-year-old Dutchman exploded after he was fed food that he thought might be poisoned, said National Enquirer in an exclusive story. He tried to punch the guard and flee the cell block before he was tossed back into his cell. There, he ripped of his clothes and screamed: “People here want to kill me!”
The incident occurred on September 15, 2010, when Beth Twitty, who is Natalee's mother, visited him.
“After Beth confronted him, asking, 'What did you do with Natalee?' Joran realized how easy it was for anyone to get to him,” an insider said. “So when he got word that someone was trying to kill him with poisoned food, he went crazy.”
The thought of being poisoned isn't that far-fetched. Joran van der Sloot bragged recently that he had received $50,000 from the Dutch media. He was using that money to bribe guards. He was also using the cash to get gourmet meals that didn't come from the kitchen. That changed when he heard he was being targeted by a group of prisoners who were sickened by the charges he killed two young women.
“Those inmates got word to Joran that they were waiting for the day he'd have to eat regular prison food, and they'd make sure the food was poisoned.”
Four days after Beth Twitty visited, a prison guard who refused to take bribes from van der Sloot told the prisoner he would have to eat the same food as the other prisoners.
“Joran thought the guard was in on a plot to kill him, and he went totally berserk,” said an insider. “He yelled insults at the guard, and then threw a punch at him. Joran was hysterical. He was so crazy with fear of being murdered in prison that he started blindly running in a bid to escape. He made it through one door of the cell block and almost made it through a second door before another guard tackled him and held him down. If that guard hadn't acted so quickly, who knows how far Joran would have gone? He could have found a hiding place in jail that could have led to an escape.”
After that, Joran van der Sloot was quickly overpowered by other guards and put in a cell.
“The guards could hear him screaming, 'I want to get out! I haven't killed anybody, but people here want to kill me!' said the insider.
The guards responded by throwing Joran van der Sloot was thrown into solitary confinement.
“All the cockiness has been drained from him now,” said the insider. “Joran now realizes that he can't buy everyone.”
Copyright 2007-2010 by Times of the Internet. All Rights Reserved.
LIMA, Peru, Oct. 1 (TOTI) --
Joran van der Sloot continues to have issues while incarcerated at Miguel Castro Castro prison in Peru. The latest incident saw van der Sloot go “berserk” and make an escape attempt only days after he was visited in the prison by the mother of Natalee Holloway.
The 23-year-old Dutchman exploded after he was fed food that he thought might be poisoned, said National Enquirer in an exclusive story. He tried to punch the guard and flee the cell block before he was tossed back into his cell. There, he ripped of his clothes and screamed: “People here want to kill me!”
The incident occurred on September 15, 2010, when Beth Twitty, who is Natalee's mother, visited him.
“After Beth confronted him, asking, 'What did you do with Natalee?' Joran realized how easy it was for anyone to get to him,” an insider said. “So when he got word that someone was trying to kill him with poisoned food, he went crazy.”
The thought of being poisoned isn't that far-fetched. Joran van der Sloot bragged recently that he had received $50,000 from the Dutch media. He was using that money to bribe guards. He was also using the cash to get gourmet meals that didn't come from the kitchen. That changed when he heard he was being targeted by a group of prisoners who were sickened by the charges he killed two young women.
“Those inmates got word to Joran that they were waiting for the day he'd have to eat regular prison food, and they'd make sure the food was poisoned.”
Four days after Beth Twitty visited, a prison guard who refused to take bribes from van der Sloot told the prisoner he would have to eat the same food as the other prisoners.
“Joran thought the guard was in on a plot to kill him, and he went totally berserk,” said an insider. “He yelled insults at the guard, and then threw a punch at him. Joran was hysterical. He was so crazy with fear of being murdered in prison that he started blindly running in a bid to escape. He made it through one door of the cell block and almost made it through a second door before another guard tackled him and held him down. If that guard hadn't acted so quickly, who knows how far Joran would have gone? He could have found a hiding place in jail that could have led to an escape.”
After that, Joran van der Sloot was quickly overpowered by other guards and put in a cell.
“The guards could hear him screaming, 'I want to get out! I haven't killed anybody, but people here want to kill me!' said the insider.
The guards responded by throwing Joran van der Sloot was thrown into solitary confinement.
“All the cockiness has been drained from him now,” said the insider. “Joran now realizes that he can't buy everyone.”
Copyright 2007-2010 by Times of the Internet. All Rights Reserved.
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Looks like Peter de Vries will be broadcasting about his escapades with Beth Twitty in Peru and Arube on his TV program this season, beginning with next Monday's opening episode...Nov. 1.
"De Vries says: 'Through Peter and director Kees van der Spek will be a documentary on the activities with Beth Holloway, who soon will be broadcast by SBS 6.' It will be explained for what purpose exactly Beth and Peter have traveled to Peru and what the findings are."
http://translate.google.com/transla...es-werkt-aan-joran-in-peru-uitzending&act=url
"Sunday begins a new season of Peter R. de Vries Crime Reporter. The journalist continues to dig into the case surrounding the disappearance of Holloway Nathalee... Peter visited this the mother of Natalee Holloway in her hometown Alabama. For the first time Beth Holloway tells the shocking story about the extortion by Joran van der Sloot. How a desperate mother cornered by the man who left her daughter disappear."
http://translate.google.com/transla...e-vries-opent-nieuw-seizoen-met-beth-holloway
Does anyone know if translations of his shows are posted on the internet?
"De Vries says: 'Through Peter and director Kees van der Spek will be a documentary on the activities with Beth Holloway, who soon will be broadcast by SBS 6.' It will be explained for what purpose exactly Beth and Peter have traveled to Peru and what the findings are."
http://translate.google.com/transla...es-werkt-aan-joran-in-peru-uitzending&act=url
"Sunday begins a new season of Peter R. de Vries Crime Reporter. The journalist continues to dig into the case surrounding the disappearance of Holloway Nathalee... Peter visited this the mother of Natalee Holloway in her hometown Alabama. For the first time Beth Holloway tells the shocking story about the extortion by Joran van der Sloot. How a desperate mother cornered by the man who left her daughter disappear."
http://translate.google.com/transla...e-vries-opent-nieuw-seizoen-met-beth-holloway
Does anyone know if translations of his shows are posted on the internet?
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This US article says the de Vries show is on Sunday, Oct. 31.
http://www.cbs42.com/content/localn...w-Sunday/l7V9rTC_10mhINQ1nvjMwQ.cspx?rss=1659
http://www.cbs42.com/content/localn...w-Sunday/l7V9rTC_10mhINQ1nvjMwQ.cspx?rss=1659
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"Holloway describes being in Peru to visit the family of van der Sloot's alleged murder victim Stephany Flores Ramirez, 21, when a Dutch news crew offered her a chance to confront the suspect for the first time."
I find it very hard to believe that this was a last minute decision and not part of the original plan between Beth and de Vries!
"Holloway recounts the email exchange between her and van der Sloot in the course of an alleged extortion plot, saying that he began emailing her in March with messages indicating "that he was ready, or wanting, to sell me Natalee's remains for $250,000." She says the emails went back and forth for several weeks until she decided to visit Peru. "
This statement is VERY confusing....I thought her lawyer said only he was contacted by Joran and conducted the extortion negotiations. And what does "until she decided to visit Peru" mean....the extortion happened before the Peru incident??!!?? :waitasec:
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20437904,00.html?xid=rss-topheadlines
I find it very hard to believe that this was a last minute decision and not part of the original plan between Beth and de Vries!
"Holloway recounts the email exchange between her and van der Sloot in the course of an alleged extortion plot, saying that he began emailing her in March with messages indicating "that he was ready, or wanting, to sell me Natalee's remains for $250,000." She says the emails went back and forth for several weeks until she decided to visit Peru. "
This statement is VERY confusing....I thought her lawyer said only he was contacted by Joran and conducted the extortion negotiations. And what does "until she decided to visit Peru" mean....the extortion happened before the Peru incident??!!?? :waitasec:
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20437904,00.html?xid=rss-topheadlines
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