Aruba - Natalee Holloway, 18, Oranjestad, 30 May 2005 *AL extortion trial* *Guilty* #3

[SteveS]

1 Characterizing JV's actions as some sort of "sting" operation is pure fiction, an attempt to confuse and deceive.

In sworn legal documents, per an FBI agent, JV was the one who initiated what occurred. He "contacted [X] via email, using the email address [X]. During a series of emails that followed, van der Sloot offered to take [X] to the location of Natalee Holloway's body, advise [X] as to the circumstances of her death, and identify those involved in her death and disappearance in return for a payment of $250,000." The document goes on to describe how JV negotiated a contract to ensure payment, received money as specified (some cash, some by bank wire), and then failed to do what he said. The charge of extortion is based on the premise that what he was committing to do was in essence forcing the payment, with no intention to actually provide what he promised.

2 The claim is being made that there's no evidence that JV is a murderer. That claim is nonsense. Even JV himself has said otherwise!

From the case documents: "Van der Sloot went on to admit that he had been with Natalee on the night of May 29/30,2005, and that he had thrown her to the ground after she had attempted to stop him from leaving her. Van der Sloot claimed that when she fell down, she hit her head on a rock and died as a result of the impact. Van
der Sloot told [x] that he hid Natalee's body and then returned
home and told his father what had happened."

Beyond that, he also admitted he murdered a young woman in Peru. There is NO DOUBT this scumbucket is a murderer.

Nor should we imagine JV will come to court complaining about any of the things being said about him. There is no malfeasance for speaking the truth about a person, so if he opens that door to make such words an issue, he will only make it worse for himself.

3 The fact that he is going to be held accountable for his evil is a good thing.

4 Extradition is part of the justice system almost everywhere. There is nothing odd or unfair about a creep being taken from one place to another to go on trial. He was indicted and the US courts have waited for 13 years, and finally he is being turned over to face trial. What would be unfair would be for him to escape trial, should the witnesses grow old and die beforehand.

Joran van der Sloot Affidavit.pdf

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[Seattle1]

Do Alabama Judges take human rights into consideration even though the law is punitive? ... even though it violates an extradition treaty with Peru?

^^rsbm

Due to federalism, both the federal government and each of the state governments have their own court systems.

As this case is being prosecuted in the Federal Court System, there is no "Alabama Judge" here for you or the defendant to fear. This is a U.S. District Court Judge that will preside over the case and a determine the punishment or sentence if Van der Sloot is found guilty.

And If the defendant is dissatisfied with a decision of a U.S. District Court, he may appeal to a U.S. Court of Appeals.

To be clear, a 2001 treaty between Peru and the U.S. allows a suspect to be temporarily extradited to face trial in the other country. It requires that the prisoner “be returned” after judicial proceedings have concluded.

Peru’s government on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, issued an executive order allowing the temporary extradition of Joran van der Sloot. The Dutchman will be prosecuted for alleged extortion and wire fraud charges involving promises to lead Holloway’s family to her body, which was never found. Natalie Holloway was later declared dead by a U.S. judge.

Van der Sloot has never been charged in connection with her disappearance. Again, this is NOT why he is here.

Timeline: Extradition of prime suspect in Natalee Holloway disappearance

LIMA, Peru (AP) — The prime suspect in the 2005 disappearance of American student Natalee Holloway on a Dutch Caribbean island is now facing extradition to face criminal charges in the United States.

apnews.com

 

[Seattle1]

18 years after Natalee Holloway's disappearance, Peru to extradite key suspect to US

Peru’s government will allow the extradition to the United States of the prime suspect in the unsolved 2005 disappearance of American student Natalee Holloway on the Dutch Caribbean Island of Aruba, bringing her family hope there will be justice in the case. Dutch citizen Joran van der Sloot...

apnews.com

May 11, 2023

The federal charges filed in Alabama against van der Sloot stem from an accusation that he tried to extort the Holloway family in 2010, promising to lead them to her body in exchange for hundreds of thousands of dollars. A grand jury indicted him that year on one count each of wire fraud and extortion, each of which is punishable by up to 20 years in prison.

[..]

A 2001 treaty between Peru and the U.S. allows a suspect to be temporarily extradited to face trial in the other country. It requires that the prisoner “be returned” after judicial proceedings are concluded “against that person, in accordance with conditions to be determined by” both countries.

[..]

A resolution published in the South American country’s federal register states that U.S. diplomats on Jan. 10 presented the temporary extradition request to Peru’s Ministry of Foreign Relations.

The time that van der Sloot ends up spending in the U.S. “will be extended until the conclusion of the criminal proceedings,” including the appeal process should there be one, according to the published resolution. The resolution also says U.S. authorities agreed to return the suspect to the custody of Peru afterward.

The extradition request indicated “that an additional delay in the prosecution of the case that is being pursued in the United States of America could significantly reduce the possibility of conviction, that the ages and health conditions of the key witnesses in the case would make the prosecution would be extremely difficult if it is not carried out soon,” according to a March order from Peru’s top court.

[..]

An FBI agent wrote in an affidavit that van der Sloot reached out to Holloway’s mother and wanted to be paid $25,000 to disclose the location and then another $225,000 when the remains were recovered. Van der Sloot requested that an agreement be drafted and signed by the mother and him.

A New York attorney representing Beth Holloway traveled to Aruba with the agreement and gave van der Sloot $10,000 in cash during a recorded meeting, according to court records. The indictment says both men then went to a site where the student’s remains were purportedly buried, and Beth Holloway made a wire transfer for $15,000 to van der Sloot’s bank account in the Netherlands.

In the affidavit, the FBI agent wrote that van der Sloot in later emails to the attorney admitted to lying about the location.

[..]

Van der Sloot married a Peruvian woman in July 2014 in a ceremony at a maximum security prison. He has been transferred from prisons in response to reports that he enjoyed privileges such as television, internet access and a cellphone, and accusations that he had threatened to kill a warden.

 

[Seattle1]

We know there's a legal loophole where prisoners in Peru can be extradited to other countries and then returned to Peru to serve consecutive sentences in other countries after release from Peru Hell Prison.

What Peru Hell Prison?

The one with weddings, art classes where he paints for his attorney, and enjoys home cooked meals from his wife and conjugal visits twice a week?

Seems to me the only hell JVS experiences is what he creates for himself. MOO

Van der Sloot moved to remote Peruvian prison

Joran van der Sloot, the prime suspect in Natalee Holloway's disappearance, has been moved to a remote Peruvian prison after threatening to kill the warden.

www.dailymail.co.uk

8/24/2014

Joran van der Sloot, the prime suspect in the 2005 disappearance of U.S. teen Natalee Holloway, has been moved to a remote Peruvian penitentiary after authorities said he threatened to kill the warden of the prison where he was serving a 28-year term for murder.

[..]

The newlyweds met at the prison, where Figueroa, an accountant by training with a young son from a previous relationship, sells candy and cigarettes to inmates.

'They became friends and spent a lot of time together in his cell,' Altez told CNN earlier this year. 'Unlike the United States, here in Peru, loved ones or relatives can see inmates inside their jails.'

Figueroa is due to give birth to Van der Sloot's child in September. All prisoners at the penitentiary are allowed conjugal visits, explaining Figueroa's pregnancy.

[..]

Peruvian media have floated the possibility that Van der Sloot decided to get married to avoid extradition to the U.S. at the end of his prison term.

But his attorney has dismissed the suggestion that the nuptials were a calculated move.

‘He's getting married because he's in love and is having a child,’ Altez said in May. ‘There are no hidden agendas.’

Leidy Figueroa told CBS News' Crimesider earlier this year that she usually visits Van der Sloot twice a week and brings him home-cooked meals.

 

[Seattle1]

What a disgusting, manipulating, beast. He will hate American prison....JMO

Natalee Holloway murder suspect Joran van der Sloot ‘severely beaten’ in prison

Joran van der Sloot, the main suspect in the 2005 disappearance of American teen Natalee Holloway, has been “severely beaten” in the Peru prison where he is being held ahead of his extr…

nypost.com

5/30/23

Even with a murder conviction under his belt, van der Sloot continues to receive positive attention from “fans,” his attorney said earlier this week.

“All his fans from all over the world sent letters to Joran. I rented him a P.O. Box to receive them. Some letters brought 10 euros, 20 euros, 5 dollars. They were girls who wrote and sent him letters with money, and he answered them all,” Altez boasted.

Van der Sloot receives up to $400 each month from his “fans,” according to his attorney.

Van der Sloot famously got married and fathered a child while incarcerated — though he is now divorcing his wife for a “prettier and younger” girlfriend, Altez said.

 

[MrsWatson]

Joran has been a busy little bee in that Peru Hell Prison.

5/17/23

Natalee Holloway murder suspect Joran van der Sloot ditches wife for ‘prettier’ girlfriend: lawyer

Joran van der Sloot asked his wife, Leidy Figuera, for a divorce about a year ago, his lawyer Maximo Altez said.

nypost.com

The prime suspect in the disappearance of American teen Natalee Holloway is abandoning the wife he married while in prison for murder in favor of a “prettier and younger” girlfriend suspected of smuggling him drugs behind bars, his lawyer said this week.

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Regardless of the outcome of his stateside trial, van der Sloot will have to return to Peru to serve out his murder sentence. He is also facing an additional seven years over allegations that Pacohuanaco helped him smuggle cocaine and marijuana into prison, the outlet said.

 

[Niner]

Joran has been a busy little bee in that Peru Hell Prison.

5/17/23

Natalee Holloway murder suspect Joran van der Sloot ditches wife for ‘prettier’ girlfriend: lawyer

Joran van der Sloot asked his wife, Leidy Figuera, for a divorce about a year ago, his lawyer Maximo Altez said.

nypost.com

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Regardless of the outcome of his stateside trial, van der Sloot will have to return to Peru to serve out his murder sentence. He is also facing an additional seven years over allegations that Pacohuanaco helped him smuggle cocaine and marijuana into prison, the outlet said.

Actually from my notes - it is an additional 18 years for the drugs...

Van der Sloot is serving 28 years in a Peruvian prison for the murder of Stephany Flores. Has served 10 years as of 2/17/23. Van der Sloot was sentenced (1/10/23) to another 18 years for drug smuggling, New sentence means he will remain in jail until 2045. Another article says release date is June, 2038.

 

[NuttMegg]

No cell phone signals. No tv. (2021 filming) Joran in several places, starting at about 12:00. Says it's his second time there for bad behavior on his part. Appears to have private cell, although another vid says that private rooms must be purchased with bribes. The video is from a visit by Peruvian media to witness the 6 am wakeup. Goes thru the worst of the prisoners, what they are in for, including some limited interviews. Peruvian Spanish dialect is pretty easy to understand compared to that of Spain, easier than Mexican too, imo. Anyway there are subtitles in English. I watched all the vids available for Peruvian prisons, apparently rice and potatoes are provided. Which spawns all sorts of money making schemes like drug dealing, etc. Just to get food.

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[NuttMegg]

What Peru Hell Prison?

The one with weddings, art classes where he paints for his attorney, and enjoys home cooked meals from his wife and conjugal visits twice a week?

Seems to me the only hell JVS experiences is what he creates for himself. MOO

Van der Sloot moved to remote Peruvian prison

Joran van der Sloot, the prime suspect in Natalee Holloway's disappearance, has been moved to a remote Peruvian prison after threatening to kill the warden.

www.dailymail.co.uk

8/24/2014

Joran van der Sloot, the prime suspect in the 2005 disappearance of U.S. teen Natalee Holloway, has been moved to a remote Peruvian penitentiary after authorities said he threatened to kill the warden of the prison where he was serving a 28-year term for murder.

[..]

The newlyweds met at the prison, where Figueroa, an accountant by training with a young son from a previous relationship, sells candy and cigarettes to inmates.

'They became friends and spent a lot of time together in his cell,' Altez told CNN earlier this year. 'Unlike the United States, here in Peru, loved ones or relatives can see inmates inside their jails.'

Figueroa is due to give birth to Van der Sloot's child in September. All prisoners at the penitentiary are allowed conjugal visits, explaining Figueroa's pregnancy.

[..]

Peruvian media have floated the possibility that Van der Sloot decided to get married to avoid extradition to the U.S. at the end of his prison term.

But his attorney has dismissed the suggestion that the nuptials were a calculated move.

‘He's getting married because he's in love and is having a child,’ Altez said in May. ‘There are no hidden agendas.’

Leidy Figueroa told CBS News' Crimesider earlier this year that she usually visits Van der Sloot twice a week and brings him home-cooked meals.

The marriage, baby. etc, was when he was imprisoned near Lima, 2014, not when he was at Challapalca. His child would be about 8-9 by now. Challapalca is véry isolated geographically, below freezing every night and thru most daylight hours too, and would not have street vendors/jail candy vendors like Leidy was. Although Peru does allow conjugal visits, not sure about Challapalca, I would guess "yes", stress relief means less violence, and imo families should be able to see their fathers, husbands. Etc.

 

[Seattle1]

The marriage, baby. etc, was when he was imprisoned near Lima, 2014, not when he was at Challapalca. His child would be about 8-9 by now. Challapalca is véry isolated geographically, below freezing every night and thru most daylight hours too, and would not have street vendors/jail candy vendors like Leidy was. Although Peru does allow conjugal visits, not sure about Challapalca, I would guess "yes", stress relief means less violence, and imo families should be able to see their fathers, husbands. Etc.

He put himself there by threatening to kill the warden. I hope justice is swift in Alabama and he's back in Challapalca sooner than later.

 

[NuttMegg]

He put himself there by threatening to kill the warden. I hope justice is swift in Alabama and he's back in Challapalca sooner than later.

It will be interesting.

 

[Seattle1]

Convicted killer Joran van der Sloot sentenced to 18 years for drugs - DutchNews.nl

Dutch national Joran van der Sloot (35), who is serving a 28 year sentence for the murder of Stephany Flores in a Peruvian jail has been sentenced to another 18 years for drug smuggling, the Telegraaf reports. Van der Sloot was said to have played a ‘crucial role’ in selling cocaine smuggled...

www.dutchnews.nl

Jan 10, 2023

Dutch national Joran van der Sloot (35), who is serving a 28 year sentence for the murder of Stephany Flores in a Peruvian jail has been sentenced to another 18 years for drug smuggling, the Telegraaf reports.

Van der Sloot was said to have played a ‘crucial role’ in selling cocaine smuggled into the Juliaca prison by a family member of a fellow prisoner and even sending it to addresses outside Peru.

The practice came to an end when prison guards discovered the route the drugs were taking. Van der Sloot was subsequently transferred to the Challapalca prison which is known for its extremely harsh regime, the paper said.

[..]

Van der Sloot’s new sentence means he will remain in jail until 2045.

 

[Seattle1]

Reading about JVS's conviction for trafficking cocaine from prison, I think he prefers being housed in a country where paying bribes to government (and prison guards) is long known the norm.

In fact, the U.S. recently ordered former former Peruvian president Alejandro Toledo to surrender to the US Marshall for extradition back to Peru after being held on house arrest in Menlo Park, CA. (Toledo back arrived in Lima, Peru 4/23/23).

Toledo, 77, is accused of taking $20 million in bribes from Odebrecht, a giant Brazilian construction company that has admitted to U.S. authorities that it bribed officials to win contracts throughout Latin America for decades. He had sought a stay on his extradition pending a legal challenge to the U.S. State Department’s decision to send him back to Peru.

Peru’s Former President Appears in Court After Extradition from U.S.

Former Peruvian President Alejandro Toledo appeared in a court in Lima on Sunday after he was extradited from the U.S. to face corruption charges. Toledo faces 20 years in prison for receiving a $20 million bribe from a Brazilian construction company. Photo: Judiciary of Peru Handout/Shutterstock

www.wsj.com

 

[arielilane]

Statement from United States Attorney Prim F. Escalona on Appearance of Joran van der Sloot in Federal Court in Birmingham, Alabama: Joran van der Sloot, 35, has been arraigned in Birmingham, Alabama, on one count of extortion and one count of wire frau...

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Statement from United States Attorney Prim F. Escalona on Appearance of Joran van der Sloot in Federal Court in Birmingham, Alabama

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PRESS RELEASE

Statement from United States Attorney Prim F. Escalona on Appearance of Joran van der Sloot in Federal Court in Birmingham, Alabama​

Friday, June 9, 2023

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. – Joran van der Sloot, 35, was arraigned today before U.S. Magistrate Judge Gray Borden in Birmingham, Alabama, on one count of extortion and one count of wire fraud for soliciting money from Beth Holloway, Natalee Holloway’s mother, on promises he would reveal the location of her daughter’s remains in Aruba and the circumstances of her 2005 death.

 

[SteveP]

No cell phone signals. No tv. (2021 filming) Joran in several places, starting at about 12:00. Says it's his second time there for bad behavior on his part. Appears to have private cell, although another vid says that private rooms must be purchased with bribes. The video is from a visit by Peruvian media to witness the 6 am wakeup. Goes thru the worst of the prisoners, what they are in for, including some limited interviews. Peruvian Spanish dialect is pretty easy to understand compared to that of Spain, easier than Mexican too, imo. Anyway there are subtitles in English. I watched all the vids available for Peruvian prisons, apparently rice and potatoes are provided. Which spawns all sorts of money making schemes like drug dealing, etc. Just to get food.

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Joran Van der Sloot is a confessed and convicted one-time murderer and robber, and highly likely, a two-time murderer, and extortionist. I am not bothered in the least that his accommodations in Challapalca Prison may be lacking a tv and cell phone signal, and his life there is not be the life he was accustomed to outside prison walls. His own behavior put him in Challapalca. As the saying goes, he made his bed... JMO

 

[Mica]

Natalee Holloway family spokesperson discusses Joran van der Sloot's extradition​

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[jakat]

How CT lawyer, FBI pulled off an undercover sting on lead suspect in Natalee Holloway's disappearance

Greenwich attorney John Q. Kelly became a key figure in the case against Joran van der...

www.greenwichtime.com

GREENWICH — Greenwich attorney John Q. Kelly has strong memories of his encounters with Joran van der Sloot, especially the time he spent with him in a hotel room in Aruba in 2010. That's when the chief suspect in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway had promised to give information about the case — for a price.

“Big. Scary. Boastful. Full of himself. Tough guy. Tats. Shaved head,” recalled Kelly, an expert in "wrongful death" litigation, who was retained by Natalee Holloway's mother, Beth Holloway, to seek justice for her daughter.

 

[katydid23]

I don't know. I live in Canada. I worry when I see an Alabama court drag a Dutchman out of Peru Hell Prison to face charges related to a sting operation where the FBI did not show up. It sounds personal and irregular.

It is pretty personal, considering he is the prime suspect in a teen girl's murder.

Everything about the journalist and the mom crusading to haul Joran v.d.Sloot out of prison to get Alabama Justice ... sounds off.

It sounds 'off' to you that a mother would crusade for justice for her murdered child? It sounds 'off' to me if she didn't

Was it a police investigation that resulted in Joran v.d.Sloot arriving in Alabama? We know there's a legal loophole where prisoners in Peru can be extradited to other countries and then returned to Peru to serve consecutive sentences in other countries after release from Peru Hell Prison.

Do Alabama Judges take human rights into consideration even though the law is punitive? ... even though it violates an extradition treaty with Peru?

Whose human rights are you most concerned with here? Is Joran the actual victim in this tragedy?

 

[Arkay]

I’m frankly very puzzled that anyone considers Beth to have orchestrated some kind of sting on JoranvdS.

IMO it is Joran who perpetrated a sting on Beth. He played on a mother’s desperation to know the whereabouts of her daughter, he extorted money from her with false promises to reveal that information, and he absconded with HER money to go to another country and live it up. It is on Joran and Joran alone that while in Peru, he murdered a young woman.

I’m also confounded by the references to Joran as a Dutchman and what seems like some insinuations of the credibility of Alabama judges. I don’t follow the implications of him being a Dutchman and the notion that every Alabama judge could be unfair. Why would his nationality matter? Even if it were a good ol’ boy Southern judge, Joran is a white Gentile. He’s not the typical target of racism.

All JMO.

 

[Emi]

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