ARUBA - Robyn Gardner, 35, Maryland woman missing in Aruba, 2 Aug 2011 - #10

[Dushi]

This is all strange to me as well. It seems that the Rum Reef is at the center of whatever was going on with GG and Robyn those two days.

They go to the Rum Reef the first day, just long enough to allow themselves to be caught on video surveillance. Robyn is wearing her favorite dress.

They return to the Rum Reef the second day, at the same time of day, and are again shown on video surveillance, with Robyn wearing the same dress as the day before.

This second day, they go in and eat a meal, during which GG jumps up and announces aloud, their name and where they are from, as though to confirm who they are to someone there at the Rum Reef. :waitasec: Strange, indeed.

The photo was allegedly taken, as you say, because this person liked Robyn's tattoos, yet the photo is not of her tattoos. I have to wonder what this person really wanted this photo for. And I sadly doubt that ALE bothered to examine the phone used to take this photo, to see if perhaps the photo may have been sent to someone else. jmo

This is the video that states the pics were taken by someone at the restaurant


I am not sure though because they also have pics of the car they drove
I am inclined to believe that all pics came from the same source
Why would someone take a pic of the car?

http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/loc...f-missing-maryland-woman-robyn-gardner-082411



Two pictures of Robyn wearing her favourite dress were taken as she left a restaurant on the afternoon she went missing.


In one photo, Giordano's back is also visible as they depart the Rum Reef Restaurant. Prosecutors also released a photo of the white Toyota Rav 4 that the two rented on the island.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...o-read-text-sent-boyfriend.html#ixzz1mNXxU9x8

 

[Dushi]

Video also shows Giordano in his rental car parked in the back of the bar and restaurant.




http://abcnews.go.com/International...tors-focus-insurance-policy/story?id=14321496


Anyone ever see this video? The article above talks about it , I can't find it
Or bad reporting?

 

[neesaki]

Just want to wish all my fellow sleuthers and mods.

:valentine:

 

[LambChop]

Just want to wish all my fellow sleuthers and mods.

:valentine:

Thank you, neesaki....now where's my darn card??? Just kidding.



ETA: Oh, I got flowers.

 

[R.U.Kidding!]

Just want to wish all my fellow sleuthers and mods.

:valentine:

,,,,,and Backatcha! :tyou::yes:

 

[neesaki]

This is the video that states the pics were taken by someone at the restaurant

I am not sure though because they also have pics of the car they drove
I am inclined to believe that all pics came from the same source
Why would someone take a pic of the car?

http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/loc...f-missing-maryland-woman-robyn-gardner-082411

B&SBM: Thank you for this link Dushi.

Also, good question you raised, why would the same person who took the photo of Robyn, (allegedly for the tattoos???), also take a pic of the car?

What was that phrase that used to be so common, something seems really "fishy" here, LOL, at least to me .

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...o-read-text-sent-boyfriend.html#ixzz1mNXxU9x8

In this article it states:
"Meanwhile, it has been reported that police believe the 50-year-old businessman killed the 35-year-old dental assistant after becoming jealous when he read a message she sent to her boyfriend back home saying: 'I love you.'

The sudden moment of anger is said to have spoiled a pre-meditated plan he had made to murder Robyn and dump her body at sea in an attempt to cover his tracks, according to the National Enquirer."

I can't believe it. This is the same theory several of us have proposed on this forum, and all along I thought we were the original proponents, but now I learn it was the NE ?! LOL, I really have to laugh at myself sometimes. :lol::lol::lol:

 

[neesaki]

Video also shows Giordano in his rental car parked in the back of the bar and restaurant.

http://abcnews.go.com/International...tors-focus-insurance-policy/story?id=14321496

Anyone ever see this video? The article above talks about it , I can't find it
Or bad reporting?

I have never seen this particular video either. There are a couple videos on this link, but I can't get them to work. Or, did we miss something, and it's now no longer around? Or, as you say, is it bad reporting?

Quote from article:
"Giordano later told police they'd been drinking vodka at the Marriott before dining, and that she'd taken sleeping pills earlier in the day, the source said."

And GG later in his interview claims they were a sober couple, lol.

Quote from article: "Video also shows Giordano in his rental car parked in the back of the bar and restaurant. The Toyota Rav-4 had tinted windows, so no one else in the vehicle can be identified."

Why make this statement? Was there some knowledge or suspicion that someone else besides GG or Robyn may have been in the car?

Quote from article: "At approximately 6:02 p.m., after Gardner went missing, the law enforcement source said that Giordano is also seen in surveillance video, tapping on closed shutters of the bar -- seemingly making his presence known. At approximately 6:20 p.m. he headed to the back kitchen of the bar and told someone to call police."

So this is where the time error, the "6:02 p.m.", came from. Oh well..... :sigh:

 

[Dushi]

I have never seen this particular video either. There are a couple videos on this link, but I can't get them to work. Or, did we miss something, and it's now no longer around? Or, as you say, is it bad reporting?

Quote from article:
"Giordano later told police they'd been drinking vodka at the Marriott before dining, and that she'd taken sleeping pills earlier in the day, the source said."

And GG later in his interview claims they were a sober couple, lol.

Quote from article: "Video also shows Giordano in his rental car parked in the back of the bar and restaurant. The Toyota Rav-4 had tinted windows, so no one else in the vehicle can be identified."
Why make this statement? Was there some knowledge or suspicion that someone else besides GG or Robyn may have been in the car?

Quote from article: "At approximately 6:02 p.m., after Gardner went missing, the law enforcement source said that Giordano is also seen in surveillance video, tapping on closed shutters of the bar -- seemingly making his presence known. At approximately 6:20 p.m. he headed to the back kitchen of the bar and told someone to call police."

So this is where the time error, the "6:02 p.m.", came from. Oh well..... :sigh:

I don't understand this
If the Rav4 had tinted windows and nobody could be identified, how can Giordano be seen?

 

[Dushi]

B&SBM: Thank you for this link Dushi.

Also, good question you raised, why would the same person who took the photo of Robyn, (allegedly for the tattoos???), also take a pic of the car?
What was that phrase that used to be so common, something seems really "fishy" here, LOL, at least to me .



In this article it states:
"Meanwhile, it has been reported that police believe the 50-year-old businessman killed the 35-year-old dental assistant after becoming jealous when he read a message she sent to her boyfriend back home saying: 'I love you.'

The sudden moment of anger is said to have spoiled a pre-meditated plan he had made to murder Robyn and dump her body at sea in an attempt to cover his tracks, according to the National Enquirer."

I can't believe it. This is the same theory several of us have proposed on this forum, and all along I thought we were the original proponents, but now I learn it was the NE ?! LOL, I really have to laugh at myself sometimes. :lol::lol::lol:

Its still not clear to me that these photos were not taken from the video
Thats wht I questioned the photo of the car
Its hard to tell where the car photo was taken
It may not have been the same day
And in the pic, you can see inside the car, steering wheel etc
So despite having tinted windows,you can see right through, out the back window
The article that states the photos were taken by someone liking RGs tattoos had a few pieces if information wrong

 

[neesaki]

I don't understand this
If the Rav4 had tinted windows and nobody could be identified, how can Giordano be seen?

The car door is open, and it does look like there is a larger person in the driver's seat (GG?) and a smaller person in the passenger seat, (Robyn?).

Other than that, no one can be clearly identified unless they had been seen entering the car.

And if GG claimed he parked there to be in the shade, it shows in this photo that the car is not in the shade at all but in full sun; it is very bright, and notice the shadow. :waitasec:

 

[Dushi]

The car door is open, and it does look like there is a larger person in the driver's seat (GG?) and a smaller person in the passenger seat, (Robyn?).

Other than that, no one can be clearly identified unless they had been seen entering the car.

And if GG claimed he parked there to be in the shade, it shows in this photo that the car is not in the shade at all but in full sun; it is very bright, and notice the shadow. :waitasec:

I am viewing it again

 

[Dushi]

OK

In the above video

The car door that is open is not that of the Rav4
Its the door of a car parked behind it
Look where the handle is

 

[neesaki]

Its still not clear to me that these photos were not taken from the video
Thats wht I questioned the photo of the car
Its hard to tell where the car photo was taken
It may not have been the same day
And in the pic, you can see inside the car, steering wheel etc
So despite having tinted windows,you can see right through, out the back window
The article that states the photos were taken by someone liking RGs tattoos had a few pieces if information wrong

Where would the surveillance camera's be located, I had assumed they would be on the building. Maybe that's not correct though, as this photo of the car is taken facing the building, with the building behind the back of the car .

Also, this photo seems exceptionally clear to be from a surveillance camera.

The surveillance video that shows Robyn walking to and from the restroom while they are at the restaurant, is so fuzzy that Robyn looks quite distorted, is really not that identifiable, and not nearly this clear.

 

[neesaki]

OK

In the above video

The car door that is open is not that of the Rav4
Its the door of a car parked behind it
Look where the handle is

Ok, I see it is a front door of a car that is open, that is parked slightly behind and beside the RAV4.

 

[Dushi]

Where would the surveillance camera's be located, I had assumed they would be on the building. Maybe that's not correct though, as this photo of the car is taken facing the building, with the building behind the back of the car .

Also, this photo seems exceptionally clear to be from a surveillance camera.

The surveillance video that shows Robyn walking to and from the restroom while they are at the restaurant, is so fuzzy that Robyn looks quite distorted, is really not that identifiable, and not nearly this clear.

It depends on which version you believe
One report says video at the back of the restauarnt, but that has never been seen
Another reporter says no cameras at the back

IMO, this pic isn't taken at that location at all, but perhaps by police to send out looking for anyone who saw anything

 

[neesaki]

It depends on which version you believe
One report says video at the back of the restauarnt, but that has never been seen
Another reporter says no cameras at the back

IMO, this pic isn't taken at that location at all, but perhaps by police to send out looking for anyone who saw anything

IA, and could have been taken the following day as well, when GG went back to the Rum Reef with his attorney.

Which if that is the case, then the image I think I'm seeing in the passenger's seat could not be Robyn.

 

[Dushi]

IA, and could have been taken the following day as well, when GG went back to the Rum Reef with his attorney.

But the background doesn't look familiar
This looks like a parking lot of some kind
Its not the side of the building IMO
Its certainly not the front

And most of the back of the building is coloured IIRC
And the part that is concrete has a couple of large solid doors in it

 

[neesaki]

But the background doesn't look familiar
This looks like a parking lot of some kind
Its not the side of the building IMO
Its certainly not the front

And most of the back of the building is coloured IIRC

Well, maybe at the police station or at the rental car place.

 

[Dushi]

Well, maybe at the police station or at the rental car place.

Could be
My pics of the back of the Rum Reef are at home
I will have a look tonight

 

[Dushi]

This is rather interesting
Notice the gates and the blue in the pic below

It appears to be where they walked the day before, IMO
So there is a camera somewhere , maybe inside that area looking toward the gates

And in this video as well

Video OM Aruba 3 september - YouTube