ARUBA - Robyn Gardner, 35, Maryland woman missing in Aruba, 2 Aug 2011 - #11

[neesaki]

I have a difficult time understanding women who would want to spend their time with this man
Even if you set this case aside, the man is a freak, IMO

And I don't see how anyone could not be aware of his dubious reputation after the last seven months

Thanks for voicing my exact same sentiments, Dushi.

 

[LambChop]

Thanks for voicing my exact same sentiments, Dushi.

I'm telling you, I'm really hoping they're all FBI agents. LOL jmo

 

[Dushi]

The insurance policy only covered their trip and ended when the returned home. RG did not return home and she disappeared while on vacation during the time she would have been covered. That we know as a fact.

I don't know why GG would consult an attorney other than the reasons he stated, which his attorney feels he cannot comment on and GG will not give him permission to discuss anything they talked about. It's all coming from GG. GG claims his attorney told him to call the insurance company and GG also claims he was told by the American consulate to notify the insurance company but we've never heard confirmation of this. Surely the American consulate would have spoken out in his defense. GG also stated he was encourgaged by RG's mother to leave the island yet has she ever confirmed that conversation took place? I don't know.

He's a suspect for a reason and we're just trying to connect the dots. It's good to go back and forth with different views because at some point things may start to make sense. Not everyone sees a situation the same and this is good because the end goal is to come as close as we can to find out what really happened from the facts we know. jmo

I completely agree about differing views and opinions

But back to the policy
Most travel policies end when one returns home
that is quite clear to me, they are "travel" policies

What is unclear is your comment about a policy needing to be dealt with at the destination because if he waited it would have been no good

I am asking you if that is a fact or if this is your opinion

 

[Dushi]

Nevermind, I think I have answered my own question

I have found your quote and it seems this is based on your opinion rather than insurance information,

If he were not so obsessed with putting that claim in right away I'd think it was possible they had an argument that went wrong and somehow she ended up dead and he tried to cover it up. But trying to put a claim in so soon after she disappeared does not sound like something innocent people do. I wonder if he was concerned about notifying the insurance company before he left Aruba because this policy only covered them until their return.

 

[neesaki]

I really can't answer that question
But as you said , there is no proof he planned it out with the insurance as motive

I think that the insurance was a back-up plan, so to speak.

GG sees women as something to use, they are simply objects to him and he exploits them to get something he wants out of them. Plus, in my opinion he is a sociopath and has a sense of entitlement beyond a normal person's comprehension.

GG also knows from experience that a lot of women refuse to go along with his desires and don't give him what he wants. So, just my theory, he got into the practice of purchasing the insurance policies in order to insure that he always gets what he wants.

That is, if it doesn't pan out the way he planned with a particular woman, he has the insurance as, well, as insurance. Now, surely he knows he can't do this repeatedly and get away with it. Yet, as far as we know he has not gone through with it until now.?

What we do know is that GG has a history of extreme issues with women, and we also know that he had ongoing financial problems.

Not saying that he is a serial killer, but I believe he is a sociopath without a true conscience. So I don't find it a stretch to believe he could pull off a murder, especially if he became enraged at the woman denying him what he believed he "deserved".

We at least know from his history, that women are only things to fulfill his wants and desires. And I think that sense of entitlement to get everything that he "deserves" is what motivates him completely. :twocents:

 

[LambChop]

http://abcnews.go.com/International...urance-policy-robyn-gardner/story?id=14331550

 

[neesaki]

I'm telling you, I'm really hoping they're all FBI agents. LOL jmo

Seriously, so am I. lease:

 

[neesaki]

http://abcnews.go.com/International...urance-policy-robyn-gardner/story?id=14331550

Thanks, LC, I posted this over on the media links thread. :seeya:

 

[LambChop]

In going through a number of cases of missing women there is a common thread with a partner who is a suspect or a POI. They are often violent or have control issues and sometimes a combination of both. jmo

 

[LambChop]

Thanks, LC, I posted this over on the media links thread. :seeya:

Oh, I never looked up there. I guess I should have a peek.

 

[Blueskies]

Originally Posted by Dushi
I have a difficult time understanding women who would want to spend their time with this man
Even if you set this case aside, the man is a freak, IMO

And I don't see how anyone could not be aware of his dubious reputation after the last seven months

Thanks for voicing my exact same sentiments, Dushi.

Did not seem to matter to a couple of his ex gf's who were defending him through all this. Not all but one was very vocal in attacking Richard and defending Gary on FB..But then again where does he meet these women? Pleaces like Adult Friend Finder?

 

[neesaki]

Well it could be, LOL....but the fact of the matter is we really have no solid evidence to prove he murdered Robyn.....so could be an accident.

....and your right Neesaki, NE is used and discussed here very often, I was just pulling your chain. Creepy IS as Creepy Does? Have to agree on the Creepy Mr. Giordano. :hills:

Well, just because we don't agree doesn't mean we can't have an intelligent discussion and maybe even a little fun while we're at it, lol.

Hey, we agree on some things, one is that GG is definitely Creepy.
Something else I think we can agree on, is that we are both quite fortunate not to be in Aruba LE's shoes and be required to examine those "beyond pornographic" pics of Robyn and GG.... Eeeewwww..... :lol:

 

[neesaki]

Originally Posted by Dushi
I have a difficult time understanding women who would want to spend their time with this man
Even if you set this case aside, the man is a freak, IMO

And I don't see how anyone could not be aware of his dubious reputation after the last seven months



Did not seem to matter to a couple of his ex gf's who were defending him through all this. Not all but one was very vocal in attacking Richard and defending Gary on FB..But then again where does he meet these women? Pleaces like Adult Friend Finder?

Yeah, makes you wonder if they're just all part of some kind of organization or ring such as vlpate mentioned, that GG is involved with. Just being paid to be part of this scam and cover up. I personally don't believe any reliable woman that really knows GG would come to his defense.

 

[vlpate]

I think that the insurance was a back-up plan, so to speak.

GG sees women as something to use, they are simply objects to him and he exploits them to get something he wants out of them. Plus, in my opinion he is a sociopath and has a sense of entitlement beyond a normal person's comprehension.

GG also knows from experience that a lot of women refuse to go along with his desires and don't give him what he wants. So, just my theory, he got into the practice of purchasing the insurance policies in order to insure that he always gets what he wants.

That is, if it doesn't pan out the way he planned with a particular woman, he has the insurance as, well, as insurance. Now, surely he knows he can't do this repeatedly and get away with it. Yet, as far as we know he has not gone through with it until now.?

What we do know is that GG has a history of extreme issues with women, and we also know that he had ongoing financial problems.

Not saying that he is a serial killer, but I believe he is a sociopath without a true conscience. So I don't find it a stretch to believe he could pull off a murder, especially if he became enraged at the woman denying him what he believed he "deserved".

We at least know from his history, that women are only things to fulfill his wants and desires. And I think that sense of entitlement to get everything that he "deserves" is what motivates him completely. :twocents:

Aside from all this, he blatantly LIED on GMA when he said you don't have a choice but to add your companion and you don't have a choice on the amount. I pulled the exact policy shown on GMA up and you have a choice on both.... so why lie? And has anyone found that Dutch Travelers Guide with the information that says to call 911 first and then your insurance company because helicopters might be involved??? Ok, I did make up "helicopters"....but not the rest.

 

[neesaki]

Aside from all this, he blatantly LIED on GMA when he said you don't have a choice but to add your companion and you don't have a choice on the amount. I pulled the exact policy shown on GMA up and you have a choice on both.... so why lie? And has anyone found that Dutch Travelers Guide with the information that says to call 911 first and then your insurance company because helicopters might be involved??? Ok, I did make up "helicopters"....but not the rest.

Thanks for this, vl. Not that I believed him anyway, but it's amazing that he can tell such a blatant lie on national television. And all the while, his infamous attorney, Jose Baez sitting there with his smug, arrogant smirk. And not one of these so called investigative journalists called him on it?!?! :maddening:

 

[vlpate]

Thanks for this, vl. Not that I believed him anyway, but it's amazing that he can tell such a blatant lie on national television. And all the while, his infamous attorney, Jose Baez sitting there with his smug, arrogant smirk. And not one of these so called investigative journalists called him on it?!?! :maddening:

A-B-C $250,000

They never got their Casey exclusive - Giordano may have been his offering. Just a thought.

 

[neesaki]

And RG spent a lot of money having her hair extensions done BEFORE she went to Aruba. I have always wondered why, because my daughter has expensive extensions too, and she is very careful about WHEN she has them put in.

My DD is an actress and feels that she needs the extensions. But they are expensive. And she doers not go into the ocean when she has 'new ones' put in. She usually has them done right after the start of summer, so she can swim for awhile before they get replaced. We live on the coast so she loves to swim in the ocean, and she does that at the 'end' of her extensions cycle. It ruins them pretty quickly.

So knowing that, WHY would RG have them done before her trip to the beach resort? If she really planned on swimming and snorkeling then she would have waited and done them when she returned. I think she had them done because she was planning on having her photo shoot in Aruba. That is what he usually promised the ones he invited to go to Aruba with him.

Thanks for the first hand information regarding the hair extensions, katy. You have confirmed what most of us have believed, that Robyn would not have gone snorkeling in the ocean with new hair extensions.

Just as an example from my own experience, I had some highlights put in my hair last spring and was told that going into a chlorinated swimming pool would not be a good thing. Guess what, when we took our trip to Hilton Head Island, I didn't go in the water in the swimming pool above my waist...
And that was a first for me, because I do like to swim. Actually, I am very probably not going to go for the highlights this year, lol.

And, as you are, I'm pretty convinced that GG used the "photo shoot" to lure Robyn there, which is why she was fixed up that last day, obviously not preparing to go either swimming or "snorkeling" in the ocean; and, just as he tried to lure the young Emerson girl there but her mother, thank God for her, didn't fall for GG's scam.

 

[neesaki]

A-B-C $250,000

They never got their Casey exclusive - Giordano may have been his offering. Just a thought.

That just makes me :sick: and :furious:

 

[neesaki]

I always thought his IT website was really a ring in disguise. He had a few websites and they were all copies of a legitimate company that didn't belong to him. You know how our politicians like their kinky. Maybe he has a list of names....like the Mayflower Madam - her list kept her, her clients, and her staff out of the pokey for a while.

I really think you're onto something here, vlpate...... jmo.

 

[neesaki]

My Opinion, unless something is found of robyn he will collect. He may not have responded to the situation ( her disappearing) like all or most expected him to. He has a record that is not favorable to women and likes things at a five finger discount. But... if he has traveled frequently and always gets insurance on himself and travel companion once she is declared deceased whats to stop him. What's the point of having "accidental" insurance if your afraid to collect. jmo

If Robyn hadn't been reportedly drinking vodka and taking sleeping pills, maybe this would be the case. But, unfortunately for GG, with his Huge Blue Plastic cups of vodka and his Big, Stupid, Tourette's Syndrome mouth stating that Robyn had "taken a sleeping pill", he has pretty much let the proverbial cat out of the bag.

Ijmo, but if that doesn't get the insurance companies off the hook, I don't know what will. And, btw, anyone with insurance, we're all in deep, deep trouble if GG and con men like him can get away with this. That is, none of us have protection because once insurance companies have to cover travesties of justice aka criminal acts, then insurance isn't worth a damn thing.