ARUBA - Robyn Gardner, 35, Maryland woman missing in Aruba, 2 Aug 2011 - # 7

[otto]

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What about those "beyond pornographic" images of Robyn on the camera? Were those a revenue producing prelude to the insurance money?

We know through news reports that GG was starting an online business.

It's in the news threads posted.

There's also the matter of the ex-husband, which has never been resolved.

I understood that although Robyn and her ex-husband traveled together after they split up, they were involved in serious financial litigation at the time she disappeared. I doubt he had anything to do with her disappearance. He most likely, like RF, had no idea that she was in Aruba.

Robyn had posted on her Modelmayhem site that she was up for any type of photo shoot ... so the photos taken by GG were probably part of the arrangement the two had. Maybe they had some sort of deal where he would host a website and she would get a percentage each time someone accessed photos of her - no idea how it works, but that may have been the arrangement.

 

[otto]

Yes, I believe the rock and hand print were rumor
And there is no mention of how much blood so it could have been any amount

My guess is that it was a small amount that one might expect from a small cut on a toe.

 

[Dushi]

My guess is that it was a small amount that one might expect from a small cut on a toe.

I tend to agree with that.
If there had been massive amounts of blood, I would expect that to be huge evidence in charging him

 

[concentric]

Did GG know the ex-husband?

 

[concentric]

Just speculating:

If you quickly ding someone in the head with a rock, covered by a towel, what amount of blood could be expected? Also, there would be no DNA on the rock--the assault weapon.

 

[Dushi]

Just speculating:

If you quickly ding someone in the head with a rock, covered by a towel, what amount of blood could be expected? Also, there would be no DNA on the rock--the assault weapon.

Head wounds bleed a lot IMO
Why would there be no DNA on a rock? Provided they could find it

 

[concentric]

Head wounds bleed a lot IMO
Why would there be no DNA on a rock? Provided they could find it

Clarifying--DNA of the PERP, if the rock was wrapped in a towel.

Wrap the rock in a towel, twist it and bludgeon, without touching the rock.

 

[neesaki]

Just speculating:

If you quickly ding someone in the head with a rock, covered by a towel, what amount of blood could be expected? Also, there would be no DNA on the rock--the assault weapon.

Also, she was already intoxicated, possibly under the influence of sleeping pills or some date rape drug as well, who knows what. So the blow on the head wouldn't have to necessarily draw blood in order to knock her out. JMO.

 

[neesaki]

Whatever GG did to Robyn, we just don't know if it involved blood loss or not. Plus, we have no reason other than GG's claims, which are all entirely suspect imo, to believe that this location in the Nanki beach area was even the actual scene of the crime. JMO

 

[Saracen]

Also, she was already intoxicated, possibly under the influence of sleeping pills or some date rape drug as well, who knows what. So the blow on the head wouldn't have to necessarily draw blood in order to knock her out. JMO.

She would proberbly be semi-consious before the bang on the head.JMO

 

[concentric]

I am a rape victim, my sister was a rape victim (roofies), that is, before she was killed.

So, I have first-hand knowledge of some pretty "out there" scenarios that are reality.

 

[concentric]

She would proberbly be semi-consious before the bang on the head.JMO

IMO, she was in a weakened state, and never knew what hit her.

 

[Saracen]

This did she,didn't she go in the water gets me which is it?

 

[concentric]

Whatever GG did to Robyn, we just don't know if it involved blood loss or not. Plus, we have no reason other than GG's claims, which are all entirely suspect imo, to believe that this location in the Nanki beach area was even the actual scene of the crime. JMO

Or, there could be multiple crime scenes. Nanki, inside the car at the Dog Beach, and then onward.

 

[concentric]

If the Dog Beach witnesses are correct, then there was further activity within that car. Then all goes silent. No one knows what happened after that point.

 

[concentric]

This did she,didn't she go in the water gets me which is it?

I believe that the fisherman said they did not get into the water, and left.

We can go back and extract that news report.

 

[Dushi]

If the Dog Beach witnesses are correct, then there was further activity within that car. Then all goes silent. No one knows what happened after that point.

The National Enquirer’s Oct. 10 story quoted an anonymous source who said that two witnesses told police they saw Gardner fighting with her travel companion, Gary Giordano of Gaithersburg, and then saw him bury her alive in a dog grave.

Other media have now republished the information, citing the Enquirer.

But Stein said police did not hear this from any witnesses.
http://www.gazette.net/article/2011...m-that-witness-saw-frederick&template=gazette

 

[LambChop]

The National Enquirer’s Oct. 10 story quoted an anonymous source who said that two witnesses told police they saw Gardner fighting with her travel companion, Gary Giordano of Gaithersburg, and then saw him bury her alive in a dog grave.

Other media have now republished the information, citing the Enquirer.

But Stein said police did not hear this from any witnesses.
http://www.gazette.net/article/2011...m-that-witness-saw-frederick&template=gazette

There may be some truth to this story but it could be just an island rumor the media got ahold of. The burying live is just the latest add on. The original story did not say that at all. And who would stand there and watch someone bury a live person. That part makes no sense. I think it is obvious she was not buried there. jmo

 

[LambChop]

I am a rape victim, my sister was a rape victim (roofies), that is, before she was killed.

So, I have first-hand knowledge of some pretty "out there" scenarios that are reality.

I'm sorry you had to endure such a horrible crime. No one can know how you must feel unless they have experienced it themselves. I have heard there is a date rape drug available on the island illegally. It is so easy to get something like that into the country because they do not check your bags when you arrive. Very sad, very, very sad. But then this drug is available anywhere just for the asking. jmo

 

[Dushi]

There may be some truth to this story but it could be just an island rumor the media got ahold of. The burying live is just the latest add on. The original story did not say that at all. And who would stand there and watch someone bury a live person. That part makes no sense. I think it is obvious she was not buried there. jmo

Stein made a public statement saying there were no such witnesses
I believe there is no truth to it at all
There are either witnesses or there are not

If it is an Island rumor, I think Stein ended the speculation with his above comment

And yes, it is an add on to the original story, which Stein says never happened, no witnesses


JMO