Ashley Madison cheating website hacked, July 2015

[Deleted member 39678]

I think it's no one's business but his and his wife. Since he didn't act on his impulses, all he is guilty
of is thinking about it. Even Jimmy Carter admitted to lusting in his heart over other women.
He did his looking on his own private time. Shame he had to be humiliated over something so silly.

As long as Jeff's wife agrees that he only "thought about it" he may have a chance of reconciliation with her.

JMO

 

[cluciano63]

He frequented a site built solely for those wishing to cheat on spouses. And whether he did or not, we may never know. He may feel he covered his tracks well enough not to admit to more than he has to. In fact it seems he has admitted only to what was already shown to be true. And evidently he was on there quite a number that of times...not just a simple one-time curiousity.

I hope his wife still has her health checked out for her own sake. I know I would not take his word for anything now, maybe never again. Well, for sure I wouldn't, as I would be with my lawyer.
Jmo

 

[human]

I want to clarify something because it appears I am defending Jeff Ashton's actions - Absolutely, that is not the case. It is difficult to excuse any married person joining a website using the marketing slogan "Life is short. Have an affair." (paraphrased)

HOWEVER, this is what is bothering me - admittedly, the Judge in Casey's trial, Belvin Perry, at one time had at least one affair while married. He wasn't pressured to resign. Bill Clinton / Monica Lewinsky - enough said. We all know we could list public officials ad nauseum here. Many of these type things are disclosed in public divorce records, divorce trial transcripts, etc...

SO, the difference re. those exposed here is that this isn't idle water cooler gossip or accusations made via docs filed by a angry spouse during acrimonious divorce - These hackers are criminals who are exposing people, listing their private emails addresses, home addresses, at least partial private credit card info, IP addresses, etc... The men they are exposing are NOT the only people they are hurting here. They are hurting their innocent children and spouses. Why should Jeff Ashton feel more pressure to resign that a sitting Judge or sitting President of the US? Because a hacker exposed him? Why should he suffer more? Why should he be forced to pay a bigger price? That is where I can't make the leap. Exactly what determines WHERE we are drawing the line?

For me, it if ain't my husband and it is not someone who could be blackmailed posing a risk to our national security, then I may feel disappointed but I'm not going to be screaming for their head to be put on the chopping block.

What I have seen over and over again is that the powers say they support ( insert name). Then two weeks later the person is resigning.

If you recall, millions were spent on Clinton and his sex scandal, Weeks and weeks of wasted time and money.

I imagine there were plenty hoping he would quit like Nixon did. But, he did not.

Florida appears to be very conservative so I think they will pressure him to resign. But Jeb Bush has so many family scandals so maybe not.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Who determines who is a self-righteous hypocrite?

Anyone with sense enough to see that a person who makes a living defending so-called "family values" by trashing others' family constellations, while at the same time violating the most basic of vows intended to protect the sanctity of the family, is one.

My opinion of course.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

BBM. The voters of Florida have elected - and re-elected - people who've done much, much worse. Just google the name of our current governor and "medicare fraud" and you'll have one example right there. Will people think his actions show very poor judgment? Yes. Will voters re-elect him? If they believe he's doing his job well, very probably.

So this is probably not going to affect Jeff politically. Interesting.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Slightly off topic

I see this over and over, especially on Websleuths.

Someone, another poster, or in this case a prosecutor, takes a stand that we agree with. We think, yeah, he/she is one of us!

Because humans are tribal creatures.

Then we find out that that person did something we don't agree with (Ashton) or posts something we don't agree with, and we are disappointed and uneasy to learn someone we believed was a member of our tribe has exhibited behavior that the tribe forbids.

I'm not calling anyone out. I readily admit to having gone through this process myself. And I'm sure I will do so again.

Not sure what my point is, really, except I understand why people who supported Ashton in prosecuting Casey Anthony feel so let down by this news.

 

[human]

Slightly off topic

I see this over and over, especially on Websleuths.

Someone, another poster, or in this case a prosecutor, takes a stand that we agree with. We think, yeah, he/she is one of us!

Because humans are tribal creatures.

Then we find out that that person did something we don't agree with (Ashton) or posts something we don't agree with, and we are disappointed and uneasy to learn someone we believed was a member of our tribe has exhibited behavior that the tribe forbids.

I'm not calling anyone out. I readily admit to having gone through this process myself. And I'm sure I will do so again.

Not sure what my point is, really, except I understand why people who supported Ashton in prosecuting Casey Anthony feel so let down by this news.

It is hard to see someone who you think is a decent person do something that is so hurtful to another- his family. That violation of trust is a tough one.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

It is hard to see someone who you think is a decent person do something that is so hurtful to another- his family. That violation of trust is a tough one.

Indeed it is.

 

[DeDee]

I have a feeling that more women want to see this list exposed than men. Lol.

You gals are out for blood. Lol.

I told you he was no good girl. Now take him to the bank. Lol.

But I really want to see if the women on the site were mostly real. Or if they were hired to flirt with the millions of men for online sake in order to keep them coming back.

Because out of 35 million members. I'm sure that a good 34 million of them were men conversing with the same woman but different profile , pic and name.

Lol

I found my states' members via pastebin. There are over three thousand of them. I knew of a few of the three hundred whose names I read but I began feeling queasy and stopped reading the info. I posted the link on FB. Friends have sent texts to me, PMs, emails and so forth because they were shocked/surprised at who's on the list. I figure there is a lot of attempts at explaining going on among married couples in my state.

One thing that troubles me about it is that members know it is a "cheaters" website. A married man can seek out another married man. That queasy feeling begins again. I find this akin to Fogel's sexual addiction. JMHO

 

[EllieBee]

Who determines who is a self-righteous hypocrite?

You?

MOO

 

[EllieBee]

Slightly off topic

I see this over and over, especially on Websleuths.

Someone, another poster, or in this case a prosecutor, takes a stand that we agree with. We think, yeah, he/she is one of us!

Because humans are tribal creatures.

Then we find out that that person did something we don't agree with (Ashton) or posts something we don't agree with, and we are disappointed and uneasy to learn someone we believed was a member of our tribe has exhibited behavior that the tribe forbids.

I'm not calling anyone out. I readily admit to having gone through this process myself. And I'm sure I will do so again.

Not sure what my point is, really, except I understand why people who supported Ashton in prosecuting Casey Anthony feel so let down by this news.

@Tricia:

Post of the day nomination!!!!!!

 

[T4Tide]

Well, someone c&p'd the AL and MS lists to pastebin and they are all over FB today.

I do know several of them. One was a huge surprise... a FB friend with a new baby and a daughter, 9.

I'm still digging through it, but I'm pretty sure there's one MS State Rep and my mom's weatherman. :stormingmad:

 

[chefmom]

I am not going to say that I am disappointed in JA, because this is not any of my business. Whether he daydreamed about cheating, or out and out had himself a good ole time, it is not anything new. People cheat. People have been taking lovers outside of their marriage since the dawn of man, I am sure. It is a moral issue, of course, but since he is not my husband, I simply do not care. I would hate to think that someone with so much to offer must now be kicked out of the village because we know he likes a little adventure. What upsets me about this whole thing is not the people being exposed as cheaters, but the FACT that they are being exposed by a group of hackers who have decided that they are judge and jury. What gives them the right to expose something so personal on so many people, and what will be their next move? What will prevent them from turning on the webcam of random computers, and recorded me or you doing whatever wild activities we do in the privacy of our homes just so they can say, "See how perverted this person is? Look at what they do at night!" Or, what is to stop them from revealing the incomes of anyone on the payroll of whichever company they decide to hack? Instead of trying to out the people on the list from AM, they need to find out who these hackers are and lock them up for invasion of privacy and whatever computer related crimes are available to be charged. I am not afraid of finding out that a politician is a liar and a cheat. Those characteristics almost go hand in hand with the job. I am afraid of a bunch of lunatics hiding behind a computer screen and using their knowledge to hide their location while exposing private information on anyone else that they choose. That is the crime here. That is what I am upset about.

 

[human]

Public employees have their salaries available, so that group is out there already.

If you are doing what you believe in, then it should not be an issue for people to know.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

As long as Jeff's wife agrees that he only "thought about it" he may have a chance of reconciliation with her.

JMO

When a guy who paid for two accounts on Ashley Madison says he only 'thought about it' does that just mean he didn't get lucky, or is he just lying his ar*e off like all the other guys who have been caught out?

Just because he was on what most people consider the 'right side' of the Casey Anthony case, doesn't make him believable in matters of the heart, faithful or even basically honest IMO.

Wonder who's next?

 

[Mrs G Norris]

I don't think this should effect his job, let's face it .. many politicians, business leaders, high ranking officials, are 'well at it' when it comes to infidelity. Nothing changes when it comes to that .. and surely by now we know that someone's title has absolutely no relation to what they get up to behind closed doors. I am not shocked by Ashton, I do not believe he was honest in his press conference, but I do not really judge him either, he's not my husband. If the voters believe him or not it shouldn't really effect whether he keeps his job either, let the chips fall etc.

The real take-away from this story should be the knowledge that nothing you put out on the internet can be trusted to remain private, if you wouldn't post it to your Facebook wall then don't put it out there, or use a fake name, fake email, etc .. this is the real message here, the problem as I see it was that the Ashley Madison site told their users their info was completely safe when it wasn't .. how could that be when they could never have known what a trusted employee or whoever did this was capable of?

Internet 101.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Looks like it just got worse for Ashton: http://eastorlandopost.com/jeff-ash...riend-finder-account-new-information-suggests

 

[Spellbound]

Jeff Ashton (Prosecutor in Casey Anthony trial) apologizes for hims membership on Ashley Madison site. :blushing:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...irms-ashley-madison-account-article-1.2334976

 

[Trident]

Looks like it just got worse for Ashton: http://eastorlandopost.com/jeff-ash...riend-finder-account-new-information-suggests

:busted: ???

 

[bestill]

Looks like it just got worse for Ashton: http://eastorlandopost.com/jeff-ash...riend-finder-account-new-information-suggests

WOW. Reading that profile tells a different story than his presser yesterday.

ETA: By the way how do you get the list?