AUS - Khandalyce Kiara Pearce (Wynarka) and mum Karlie Pearce-Stevenson (Belanglo) #2

[Kouriouskell]

from the railway side ? do we have a date from the pictures ?

Thank you Crabstick, from the look of this photo the case has not been thrown from the hwy, but from the opposite direction, and has been there longer than previously stated in msm.

 

[Kouriouskell]

well can you see the suitcase in the google car pic dated 2014 ?

The date is Sept 2014 according to the time stamp. The photos are from the google car that drives around the world with a camera on to provide google "street view" on maps.google.com.au . The interesting thing is the google car has been down that road 3 times in 2007, 2010 and 2014, you can switch views between different years. The particular rock piles were not there in 2010 but were in 2014. There looks to be a some sort of quarry or mine at the back with white rocks, likely where the rocks came from.

 

[sunnybree]

Someone asked about known serial killers in Australia who targeted children. I lost the original post somewhere. I can only think of one known to have solely targeted children. His name was Derek Percy and he was locked up at the time of Karlie and Khandalyce's deaths. He is also now deceased. Derek Percy had only one count of murder attributed to him in a court of law -- the murder of a 12 year old girl in 1969. But since that time police have attempted to link him to a number of other child murders/abductions between 1965 and 1969, while he was aged only 17-21. A coroner ruled him guilty of the murder of a 7 year old girl (Linda Stilwell) only a few days after his death in 2013. Another coronial inquest found that there was enough evidence to charge him for the murder of a 3 year old boy, although the DPP ended up deciding not to pursue charges (although police are pretty much satisfied it was him). Interestingly, he is also considered to have likely committed the Wanda Beach murders at the age of 17, and there is some quite compelling circumstantial evidence in relation to that. He is also a person of interest in the abduction and presumed murder of the Beaumont children. Less evidence for this one, but police did confirm that he was in Adelaide at the time.

Percy was actually found not guilty by reason of insanity, but in years to come psychiatrists said that this diagnosis was wrong and he was 100% sane and unable to be rehabilitated. They said his "inability" to recall the details of the murder was completely faked. Ironically, if he had been found properly guilty of his actions he would have been released in the 80s and probably murdered more children but by originally being assessed as "insane" they were able to keep him locked up until he died in 2013. Strange loophole, that.

Anyway, sorry for the off-topic post, just wanted to reply to the original question. Back on-topic, I'm also not convinced that a serial killer committed the murders just yet, I think it's just a more likely situation that they want to consider all options. Looking into whether any of Karlie's associates has committed similar crimes doesn't necessarily mean a search for a serial killer per se. It might just mean that they are looking for a pattern of extremely violent behaviour towards women and children. But again, who knows! I expect that if a serial killer is responsible this case is going to take a long time to solve, as it would likely mean that the murderer chose Karlie and Khandalyce at random and it will be difficult to find the link. On the other hand if it is a person that Karlie had some form of relationship with, other people will know and be able to testify to the behaviour that characterized that relationship, and would also be more likely to hold information about the murder. Serial killers generally work alone and don't confide in others although there are exceptions.

 

[lindamichelle1]

wow thats such a good spot seeing that suitcase in the bushes!

 

[sweetcaro]

The photo's from Google showing the case close up as posted by Crabstick - from September 2014? Is that right? So if it is the case with her remains it was there many many months before the date currently reported. I guess we cannot be sure it is THE case but it would be a heck of a coincedence if it wasn't. This is such a crazy murder situation we have here. So baffling and so tragic.

 

[SleuthingSally]

http://www.australianmissingpersonsregister.com/Niamh.htm
With all the talk of fruit picking and perhaps more victims this case came to mind. I think of Niamh often and wonder where she is.

 

[Hbayne]

The photos of the other suitcase seem irrelevant , the suitcase she was found in is the only one important to this case. Maybe I'm reading the posts wrong ?

 

[Kouriouskell]

not sure of the date of the case behind the bushes but i believe it to be september 2014 as well . . i are only sure of the date of the rocks as i seen the date ,that were ever side {100 metres apart} and that date was sept 2014

The photo's from Google showing the case close up as posted by Crabstick - from September 2014? Is that right? So if it is the case with her remains it was there many many months before the date currently reported. I guess we cannot be sure it is THE case but it would be a heck of a coincedence if it wasn't. This is such a crazy murder situation we have here. So baffling and so tragic.

 

[Hbayne]

Also where is the link that karlie was fruit picking ? Or is it just an assumption because of the area ?

 

[Kouriouskell]

other suitcase photos ? what , are there different pics of suitcases being posted ?

The photos of the other suitcase seem irrelevant , the suitcase she was found in is the only one important to this case. Maybe I'm reading the posts wrong ?

 

[visioneye]

My understanding is that this suitcase is "the suitcase" before it was removed from the trees and placed beside the road.

 

[Kouriouskell]

is this the pic of the suitcase that may contain khandalyces remains or is this a random suitcase ?

Crikey!! thats a suitcase if ever ive seen one. Have you informed the police? It may still be there. That location is 500 metres from the location where Khandalyce was found. Your object was definately not there in the 2010 google snap either.

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https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-35...4!1s6Qq3MFF22BmMLqIcaNMGHA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

 

[Kouriouskell]

sorry i think i put up the wrong pic

 

[Hbayne]

is this the pic of the suitcase that may contain khandalyces remains or is this a random suitcase ?

I'm confused too. Looks so different to suitcase she was found in.

 

[Kouriouskell]

this one , ( i hope }

If you look at a couple of images the case was up the back in the b
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[Kouriouskell]

in what way does the suitcase look different . I'm sure the date was sept 2014

I'm confused too. Looks so different to suitcase she was found in.

 

[Kouriouskell]

there is a better pic of what I'm trying to show on page 29 post #425

I'm confused too. Looks so different to suitcase she was found in.

 

[SleuthingSally]

Also where is the link that karlie was fruit picking ? Or is it just an assumption because of the area ?

Assumption and musing about how she may have been supporting herself. It was also mentioned in the media she left Alice Springs to find work.
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2015-...-karlie-stevenson-and-daughter-appeal/6877280

 

[OzChristian]

The tax free threshold for Australian residents in the years between when Karlie was last sighted (November 2008) and when her body was found (August 2010) was only $6,000.

 

[Oona]

Does anyone know when Karlie was in a relationship with Darren Ashley? I know he was ruled out as the killer but maybe he was part of the reason Karlie left Alice Springs. He murdered his wife in 2012 because she ended their relationship. Looking at this court transcript he seemed pretty controlling.
http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/s...15.html?stem=0&synonyms=0&query=ashley darren