AUS - Khandalyce Kiara Pearce (Wynarka) and mum Karlie Pearce-Stevenson (Belanglo) #4

[Deleted member 102539]

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http://mobile.news.com.au/national/...led-two-children/story-fns0kb1g-1227587627032

Juni - August = winter, car show, little Khandalyce is wearing long sleeves
September - November = spring, Shopping mall, little Khandalyce is wearing her pink dress
The November pic at the Mall shows a pic of poor Khandalyce lightly bloated,very pale with dark eye circles (IMO not sleeping enough + fast food + stress + and what else ...), similar to her mother Karlie. Yes, November at Shopping Mall and last photo would be right, I think.

 

[Wolfinator]

What are the chances of...

1. She was not the woman in the wheel chair
2. She was not aware of the murders
3. She was the one that called crime stoppers about the clothing/quilts
4. She despises DJH for lots of very good reasons and has a mountain of dirt on him and a lot of others...

 

[inkpink]

The ABC TV reporter outside the police station said that HP's lawyer walked out the front and around the corner (obviously to distract reporters) while HP left by the back entrance in a white commodore and that police say she has not been formally charged with any offence.

I think HP is the person who originally tipped off Crimestoppers that she thought the remains at Wynarka might be Khandalyce.

I expect her partner left earlier with the child to go to a neutral point unknown to the media (friend or family home perhaps) and HP has now left to join them.

To me, she just doesn't look like she is guilty of anything.

I know we hear the euphemism "helping police with their enquiries" as "about to be arrested", but sometimes real people actually are helping the police with their enquiries.

She seemed to have that shopping bag full of documents with her and she seemed to be handing them over to the police, so I'm thinking she is a willing witness, not a suspect.

Possibly she has been living with a suspicion about what happened to K and K for years and yet, given that there was no evidence they were actually even missing until a couple of weeks ago, perhaps she thought she was being silly and said nothing until the names were released.

BBM - Sometimes I think yes and other times I think no....... Given that they released the info about a woman in a wheelchair, I'm not so sure that they would have done that if she had already come forward with the other info. Surely she would have confessed to doing that at the time, maybe in return for a deal.

 

[KG1]

This lady may well be a chief prosection witness in time to come. Similar to Toni McHugh in Gerard Baden Clay case. Best to wait and see, rather than jump to too many conclusions, despite matters pointing in a certain way.

 

[JaneSA]

What are the chances of...

1. She was not the woman in the wheel chair
2. She was not aware of the murders
3. She was the one that called crime stoppers about the clothing/quilts
4. She despises DJH for lots of very good reasons and has a mountain of dirt on him and a lot of others...

1. I said pages ago that whoever the wheel-chair fraud woman was, she may have used a wheel-chair to throw suspicion on HP if the transaction was ever looked at on cctv.

2. I also said pages ago that if you know a child has been murdered you don't leave her pic with her name on your FB page, proving you were once associated with her and her mother.

3. Yes. I think she was the CS caller. But I think she only called after the names were released. She probably had no idea K and K were even missing.

4. Yes. His <modsnip> driving killed 2 of her children and then, while she was in hospital, he was off all over the country, not by her side helping her with her grief and physical rehabilitation.

REMEMBER

Karlie's phone was used to send messages to reassure family and friends.
Possibly she is one of those friends.

 

[minime]

There is a section of the prison with cottages that are used to house mums with babies, but only women who have their babies while they are in prison are accommodated there. From memory it can only hold about 4 mums with babies. There is no separate remand area for women in the city, but sometimes they are held there overnight due to overcrowding at Adelaide Women's Prison (AWP). I can't see them keeping an infant there.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

The ABC TV reporter outside the police station said that HP's lawyer walked out the front and around the corner (obviously to distract reporters) while HP left by the back entrance in a white commodore and that police say she has not been formally charged with any offence.

I think HP is the person who originally tipped off Crimestoppers that she thought the remains at Wynarka might be Khandalyce.

I expect her partner left earlier with the child to go to a neutral point unknown to the media (friend or family home perhaps) and HP has now left to join them.

To me, she just doesn't look like she is guilty of anything.

I know we hear the euphemism "helping police with their enquiries" as "about to be arrested", but sometimes real people actually are helping the police with their enquiries.

She seemed to have that shopping bag full of documents with her and she seemed to be handing them over to the police, so I'm thinking she is a willing witness, not a suspect.

Possibly she has been living with a suspicion about what happened to K and K for years and yet, given that there was no evidence they were actually even missing until a couple of weeks ago, perhaps she thought she was being silly and said nothing until the names were released.

When we learn from where the suitcase came to the road side in Wynarka and when we learn if suitcase man is a relative of her (perhaps), then we will know more. - Since when DJH is in prison and HP may think she is more safe than before??

 

[silverau]

This lady may well be a chief prosection witness in time to come. Similar to Toni McHugh in Gerard Baden Clay case. Best to wait and see, rather than jump to too many conclusions, despite matters pointing in a certain way.

I was gunna say GBC and the granny pash already turned me alcoholic!

It's the whole "get on with it!!" thing (not aimed at LE, it's more to do with the people that have committed crimes, and people who KNOW for a fact crimes have been committed in their social/familial sphere and they are taking their sweet bottomed time to front up)

PS: Toni was never the chief witness, Alison was - her farewell fingernail scratches! :moo:

 

[Anonamouse]

Formally in Police custody - Not charged.

From Ch 10 News

Give them a few hours and I think that will change .

Ching Ching

 

[JaneSA]

HP may well have been Karlie's best friend.

It may be through HP that Karlie originally met DJH.

Karlie and HP both lived in the Alice at the same time. DJH didn't.

They may have been friends for a long time before the car show and Karlie may have supported HP after her tragic accident.
That could be why she went to Adelaide in the first place.

Karlie may even have been furious with DJH for deserting HP.

Just trying to think outside the MSM sensational "love triangle" crap that they use to sell stuff,.

 

[they'll get you]

I love port! We always take a bottle of port to have around the campfire when camping. Very nice tipple! I think I'll join you!

At this point I'll drink anything and a lot of it.

Seriously, did anyone ever imagine these scum exist?

This is a truly horrible outcome and it gets worse by the minute.
I've been lurking because I just have no words.

 

[Makara]

HP may well have been Karlie's best friend.

It may be through HP that Karlie originally met DJH.

Karlie and HP both lived in the Alice at the same time. DJH didn't.

They may have been friends for a long time before the car show and Karlie may have supported HP after her tragic accident.
That could be why she went to Adelaide in the first place.

Karlie may even have been furious with DJH for deserting HP.

Just trying to think outside the MSM sensational "love triangle" crap that they use to sell stuff,.

I think if HP was good friends with Karlie there would have been some evidence of that on her social media pages, more especially once Karlie and Khandalyce had been identified.

 

[PainExpress]

I think if she really was helping police they would have done something to protect her identity. At least they would have wised up the media and called them off.

 

[they'll get you]

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/karlie-pearcestevensons-accused-killer-found-with-her-bank-card-years-after-her-death-20151030-gkn3rr.html

The man accused of murdering Karlie Pearce-Stevenson was found by police with the young mother's bank card in his wallet four years after he allegedly killed her.
But the key card was destroyed after police noticed it had expired and the owner lived interstate.
In fact Ms Pearce-Stevenson's remains had been found two and a half years earlier and lay waiting to be identified in a Sydney morgue.


So that is why the account was last used in 2012.

Did he keep it as a trophy?

 

[JaneSA]

I think if HP was good friends with Karlie there would have been some evidence of that on her social media pages, more especially once Karlie and Khandalyce had been identified.

Not if she was the one who tipped off Crimestoppers that the body might be Khandles.
If she knows anything on the periphery it would be unwise to announce it on social media.

 

[JaneSA]

Did he keep it as a trophy?

Nope. He was still using it at the time of that arrest.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

I think if she really was helping police they would have done something to protect her identity. At least they would have wised up the media and called them off.

Sending her home wouldn't be too safe after today's coverage would it?

 

[silverau]

Adelaide woman Hazel Passmore dismantled social media as pressure increased over Belanglo-Wynarka murder investigation

Ms Passmore, 33, had two active Facebook pages on Thursday when her name first surfaced as a person of interest in the murders of young mother Karlie Pearce-Stevenson and her daughter, Khandalyce Pearce.

By Friday morning, with media camped outside her Davoren Park home, one of the pages had been deleted while the second had been heavily edited to remove multiple photos."

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/adelaide-woman-hazel-passmore-dismantled-social-media-as-pressure-increased-over-belanglo-wynarka-murder-investigation/story-e6frg6n6-1227588583670

 

[JaneSA]

I think if she really was helping police they would have done something to protect her identity. At least they would have wised up the media and called them off.

Would the media just go away quietly if the police asked them?

 

[hideoustroll]

Would the media just go away quietly if the police asked them?

Maybe not but in some cases police have stated that a person is not a suspect and they haven't done that in this case yet.