AUS - Khandalyce Kiara Pearce (Wynarka) and mum Karlie Pearce-Stevenson (Belanglo) #5

[Makara]

Sorry for quoting myself

If in fact it happened in the ACT it would then be a Federal Case, would it not?

Yes, it would sleep.

 

[sleepinoz]

I did . Both unregistered . One could be stolen sounds suss to me . Police should take a closer look at whos been driving .

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It just keeps going like an eveready battery..........

 

[KG1]

Those members from SA - Is this site usually up to date? Is what I'm getting correct?

https://www.ecom.transport.sa.gov.au/et/checkRegistrationExpiryDate.do

Well, well, well. One rule for some, one rule for others.

 

[bearbear]

"Like others living in Wynarka, he remembers the father and young daughter who once lived in a caravan parked among the scrub outside town. One day, years ago, they disappeared."

http://m.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/murder-mysteries-gone-girls-secrets-break-wynarkas-heart/story-e6frg6nf-1227503314684

i still wonder if this could be DH with Khandalyce living in this caravan after Karlie's murder.
Khandalyce after being murdered (the article says she was murdered) she could have been left in the caravan to decompose which explains the condition of her bones.
The later sighting of the caravan girl could be DH returning with HP's daughter not with the original caravan girl and the bones and clothing could have been packed into the suitcase then. Or perhaps someone else (suitcase man) found the bones and packed them in the suitcase and left them by the road.
Where is this caravan in relation to where the suitcase was left and do the sightings of suitcase man fit these 2 locations.

i found one of the articles...
The little girl, about three or four-years-old lived there with her unemployed transient dad in about 2001. They went away when it was about time for her to start school, Mr Wedding, 67, said.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...513062525?sv=b5cd393333ae2f3aabdb46d8a5f20ca4

 

[Angeline]

Also..I might as well go out on a permanent limb and state that I think Hazel had control and ownership of that suitcase. Knowing full well what was inside it. For years. Something made her throw it away ,some catalyst, I don't know what, a direction from Daniel, an argument with James the Carer, whatever. ... something made her suddenly retrieve it from its hiding place and take it on the road and discard it, in a panic.

And when that suitcase was discovered, by the public at large, she sat on the info, until some bigmouth dropped the names Karlie and Khandalyce to the missing persons squad. I don't believe for one nanosecond that Hazel contacted the police with that information,..

Feeling sorry for Hazel is so far off my radar it constitutes an outer space moment.

Trooper you just made me think of something... and maybe it's already been discussed... but when you spoke about the possibility of Hazel being connected to the suitcase, it made me think about how you'd have to be deeply disturbed/sick in the head to keep something so morbid. Given her life experiences I can see how she could end up in a bad place mentally.

All IMO.

 

[melsmemories]

It just keeps going like an eveready battery..........

Great find . Funny police havent picked up on this . Though they may believe right now they have bigger fish to fry

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[Makara]

One thing that bothers me is that if they know someone in a wheelchair attended Centrelink I'm guessing they have cctv footage. If it was HP then why have they not arrested her? Is it to keep her talking? I just don't understand. Are they keeping her on their good side to get more info? But surely if the arrested her they would put her in a more vunerable position and she might be more likely to talk. Is it possible it was not her as it would be pretty obvious it was due to the wheelchair. My only theory is that she was doing it as a favour as she believed Karlie was alive but could not attend. If not its just plain stupid. There is a huge stretch between benefit fraud and murder so I'm not convinced yet.
And on another note my toddler hates shoes and if I carry him or put him in the pram I don't care. God forbid it would be used to judge me as a criminal...!


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This is what Detective Bray had to say in his last media conference.

On 24 June 2010 a female in a wheelchair accompanied by a male person attended the Australian Central Credit Union in Elizabeth to update banking records and engage in conversations with the bank. Those people were in possession of identity documents and were able to convince the bank that in fact the female that was present was Karlie.

The woman in the wheelchair was trying to pass herself off as Karlie.

BBM. IBM.

 

[crabstick]

Checked some plates last month.
This will be interesting. Sent to crimestoppers I hope.

I did . Both unregistered . One could be stolen sounds suss to me . Police should take a closer look at whos been driving .

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[inkpink]

I did . Both unregistered . One could be stolen sounds suss to me . Police should take a closer look at whos been driving .

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Unbelievable! Actually, no, it's not.....

 

[reasypeasy]

One thing that bothers me is that if they know someone in a wheelchair attended Centrelink I'm guessing they have cctv footage.


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I don't think that even now centrelink keeps footage for that long. Those cameras are in case of critical incidents... for example if some junkie gets refused an urgent payment and starts picking up computers and throwing them at staff. Keeping what is mostly otherwise unremarkable footage for years... three four or five cameras per office... for every office in the country... that's a lot of $$$.

My guess is the Customer Service officer acted according to duty of care, and offered "Karlie" a claim form for Disability Support Pension then documented why they made that offer.

 

[Theodora]

Yes, it would sleep.

Although the ACT itself and its Supreme Court in its civil, criminal and appellate jurisdiction were established under statutes passed by the Commonwealth Parliament, the ACT Supreme Court is not referred to as exercising Federal jurisdiction and its cases are not described as Federal cases, which is a term generally limited to matters falling within the power of the Commonwealth under the Australian Constitution (although in some cases like the Corporations Act the States cooperate in passing legislation that then is treated as falling under the jurisdiction of the Federal Courts as well as the State Supreme Courts).
http://www.courts.act.gov.au/supreme/about_the_court/court_jurisdiction_and_history

Murders committed in the ACT are prosecuted under the Crimes Act 1900 (ACT)
http://www5.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/act/consol_act/ca190082/

 

[Froglady]

I think when you go in to centrelink for an appt they might write a little summary of apearance etc for records. Eg : looking well or in wheelchair.. Jmo

 

[sleepinoz]

Although the ACT itself and its Supreme Court in its civil, criminal and appellate jurisdiction were established under statutes passed by the Commonwealth Parliament, the ACT Supreme Court is not referred to as exercising Federal jurisdiction and its cases are not described as Federal cases, which is a term generally limited to matters falling within the power of the Commonwealth under the Australian Constitution (although in some cases like the Corporations Act the States cooperate in passing legislation that then is treated as falling under the jurisdiction of the Federal Courts as well as the State Supreme Courts).
http://www.courts.act.gov.au/supreme/about_the_court/court_jurisdiction_and_history

Murders committed in the ACT are prosecuted under the Crimes Act 1900 (ACT)
http://www5.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/act/consol_act/ca190082/

Yes, but it would be handled by the Federal Police is what I meant in my question.

It can't be handled by either NSW or SA Police if the crime was committed in the ACT.

 

[SLouTh]

I don't think that even now centrelink keeps footage for that long. Those cameras are in case of critical incidents... for example if some junkie gets refused an urgent payment and starts picking up computers and throwing them at staff. Keeping what is mostly otherwise unremarkable footage for years... three four or five cameras per office... for every office in the country... that's a lot of $$$.

My guess is the Customer Service officer acted according to duty of care, and offered "Karlie" a claim form for Disability Support Pension then documented why they made that offer.

I would imagine the CCTV is on a "loop" and only kept for a certain time period and re- taped over.. And segments only kept if required due to an incident... That is if centre-link use similar system to other gov departments..

I actually feel a little sorry for the employee that was "duped" .. To be dragged into an investigation like this... IMO ..

Oh I am one of those "guests" who is actually a member, but doesn't log in or comment much.. But reads a lot.... And yes an Aussie ... Who is horrified and very saddened by this dreadful case...

 

[Bliss_Perth]

One thing that bothers me is that if they know someone in a wheelchair attended Centrelink I'm guessing they have cctv footage. If it was HP then why have they not arrested her? Is it to keep her talking? I just don't understand. Are they keeping her on their good side to get more info? But surely if the arrested her they would put her in a more vunerable position and she might be more likely to talk. Is it possible it was not her as it would be pretty obvious it was due to the wheelchair. My only theory is that she was doing it as a favour as she believed Karlie was alive but could not attend. If not its just plain stupid. There is a huge stretch between benefit fraud and murder so I'm not convinced yet.
And on another note my toddler hates shoes and if I carry him or put him in the pram I don't care. God forbid it would be used to judge me as a criminal...!


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If they have cctv of a woman in a wheel chair, can't they see if that person is an amputee? A persons appearance may change over time, but they don't go loosing a limb.

 

[Theodora]

Yes, but it would be handled by the Federal Police is what I meant in my question.

It can't be handled by either NSW or SA Police if the crime was committed in the ACT.

Sorry, when you said this was a "Federal case", I assumed you meant one involving the exercise of Commonwealth (or Federal) jurisdiction, as that is the usual sense in which it is used. ACT Policing is a separate section of the AFP that exercises power under ACT Criminal law http://www.police.act.gov.au/about-us

 

[Bliss_Perth]

Did the images plongi posted get deleted? I was hoping they would come back on. I thought they needed to be reported to crime stoppers

 

[Puggle]

Puggle, on of the account transactions on KPS account they identified was at Rabbit photo/Strandbags in Mt Gambier on 17/11/2008. They think she was still alive at this point? I think they were trying to establish the timeline

Lol...yeah I was only asking because Becsworld mentioned it couldn't have had anything to do with photos because Rabbit Photo's was closed down ..... another poster answered the question...It closed down in 2009..

 

[hideoustroll]

If they have cctv of a woman in a wheel chair, can't they see if that person is an amputee? A persons appearance may change over time, but they don't go loosing a limb.

Maybe that was before HP moved house and left her leg behind? It probably wouldn't be apparent she was an amputee if she wore pants and shoes.

 

[boomboom26]

If they have cctv of a woman in a wheel chair, can't they see if that person is an amputee? A persons appearance may change over time, but they don't go loosing a limb.

have they said they have footage of a wheelchair? or are they going on what might have been listed on the forms centrelink filled out.